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Kommentar von 9496

This skill made me actually attempt Dual weilding Mortal Strike.... i was told it was the most useless way to play a warrior the person(all epixx) has ever seen... but i belive in playing how you feel comfortable(dosnt mean i wont get a GM 2h weapon when i build the honor, lolz) but against anything but clothies i actually have an easy time slaying them, even though my gear is rather mediocre.

Kommentar von Limiter

25% more rage from damage dealt? This talent is more powerful than many can understand, especially for arms warriors who depend on MS and whirlwind (which both have a large rage cost) to deal damage. However, the reason many don't get it is because the 21 point talent in the other trees - Death Wish and Concussive Blow - are great talents.

So it's not that this is a bad talent, it just competes with some other incredible talents.

Kommentar von 41762

Everyone on the WoW forums badmouths this talent, saying that it's a terrible 41-pointer, and that you should never get it. I left my warrior behind with the expansion, so maybe someone could explain this to me.

Kommentar von 80006

Endless Rage is great for those warriors who use two-handed weapons in order to compensate the big Rage Normalization " nerf ".

A great point that a lot of people miss is that this effect stacks with gear- allowing you to generate further rage with this ability.

It is a passive ability, always active.

Endless Rage does not increase rage generation when you take damage. This is a common mistake.

Kommentar von 63872

I say its a great talent and now with death wish being in the arms talent tree instead of the fury (this occured in patch 2.3) we will see more people grabing it

Kommentar von 15086

This is bad because when I hit the soft enemy I don't even need that 25% bonus, and if my target is hard then that 25% bonus will be very little.

Kommentar von Archangel

This talent is currently(as of patch 2.3.3) bugged. It does not generate the rage it should. However, come patch 2.4, it will function as intended.

This talent is actually quite powerful. Although the Arms tree is generally the PvP tree of choice, this final talent is designed, in my opinion, for raiding and DPS.

Major Arms warrior DPS abilities are Mortal Strike, Slam, Whirlwind, and Cleaves where appropriate. Each of these have larger rage costs. Effectively, this talent, under optimal conditions, would increase your DPS by about 5-10%.

Kommentar von Acme1970

2.4 promises to change it to give the correct amount of rage

Kommentar von Twan

Speaking as a PvP focused warrior, this talent is GREAT. Maybe not in the 5v5 bracket, but atm I'm doing 2v2 with a disc priest so I like never get hit - at all - until my priest dies and they go for me (O.O).
Atm I have a 46/10/5 spec for optimal rage generation and I must say it's amazing. I actually have "Endless Rage" (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/talent=LA0xzAbqMhdioVVZf ).
From time to time, I do heroics and kara for badges and stuff. Here I put on my two 1H axes. Sure, Mace Specialization and Two-Handed Weapon Specialization become useless here, but I am NEVER out of rage.

Kommentar von 27519

I dont mean to rag on endless rage, but as a warrior in any sort of decent blue to epic gear, you wont really need this talent. From what i've seen (Warrior in s3/pve gear) while raiding, i have never had problems with rage. I would go for flurry, which, due to the increased attack speed, increases rage generation AND dps. Also, you get many useful talents from the fury tree. Usually, when i'm raiding, every hit i get gives me ~25 rage, crits ~40, so if i'm hitting every time with maxxed hit, i should always have enough rage to keep a rotation with WW and MS and slam going. This talent, from what i see, is for low AP and crit warriors wearing blues and working up. Otherwise, it is quite simply a waste of a talent....

Kommentar von Thottbot

is this skill good ? how rage can u make with this ? is it worth putting a point in it ?

Kommentar von Thottbot

in my opinion, this talent makes or breaks the arms warrior, the extra rage is crucial when it comes to MS and whirlwind wich consume more rage than anything else, also i prefer the passive talents over the activated talents because they help you all the time rather than just temporarily.

Kommentar von Thottbot

We all know its 25% more rage, but how much rage u get from a 2hand swing with none crit?

Kommentar von Thottbot

What if you are arms spec and u want death wish and endless rage, which one would u chose I mean you wont have enough talent points to have both
:(

MY chose I would have Death wish because I hate when I get feared in PVP. So that can finish the warlocks I think. If u guys think endless rage is worth more then death wish plz send a massage Il rethink that. Thanks

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm pretty sure with a 2-Hander non-crit it's around 12 rage. So, 15 rage per swing? I have no idea about crits though...

But I must say, Death Wish > Endless Rage. And the rage issue? Spend 2 points in protection tree to get improved Bloodrage

Kommentar von Thottbot

did this get nerfed?...cause in my stragety guild book it says
"all abilities cost 100%less rage for 10 sec"

Kommentar von Thottbot

This talent isnt enough for people to go this deep into arms. This effect should have a rage cost reduction for a certain period of time.

If it were changed to something like; "All abilities cost 25% less rage for 10 seconds sounds" then that would sound a lot more appealing since most arms warriors aren't really that rage starved.

I'd sooner hit final tier talents in fury than actually invest in this talent.. it's not worth the effort. I'd go Improved Mortal Strike at most..

Kommentar von Thottbot

True, a change wud be really nice. For example:
Remove Imp MS (It doesn't look appealing AT ALL in my eyes)
with

3 talent points
W/e name (Endless Rage perhaps ^^)
Increases the Rage u gain from attacks with either: 10/20/30% or 8/16/25% if 30% is too much.
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2 talent points
Sumthing like "Master of Abilities"
Increases damage dealt from Rend by 25/50%, Hamstring slows by an additional 5/10%, Charge adds another 1/2 rage, and reduces the cooldown on Thunder Clap, Overpower and Mortal Strike by 0,5/1 sec ... ?
Something like that, just so that all ur Arms ability comes to even better use. The numbers maybe are a bit too high (or even too low) but Rend which isn't the strongest ability really cud improved this much tho. A total of 125% damage increase (with Improved Rend) of it seems kinda nice Oo

Then instead of Endless Rage as a 41 point talent they cud add
Shockwave
25 Rage
45 sec cooldown
Instant (preferably, but cud have like 0,5-1,0s cast time)
Slams the ground with your weapon, causing a Shockwave of physical energy through the ground dealing damage equal to ? 25% ? of attack power in a line, hitting up to, say... 3 targets? (Up to 25 yards away?) Cud also daze for 3 secs or so perhaps if needed.
It is from WC3, it suits like a cool Arms ability and it wud be SO AWESOME! Don't know how it wud work tho xD

Cud also be some kind of passive damage increaser (Named "Vicious Blows" maybe?), that works like Fiery Enchant and cud be Physical or Bleed damage, depending on ur level and/or attack power. This makes abilities such as Sunder Armor and Rend (and maybe also Thunder Clap?) having a chance of dealing instant damage too (and being able to proc Deep Wounds!).

Bah, just some crazy ideas! I have so many ideas for talents, Blizz shud hire me lol hahaha! Well, joking aside, the 6 last points in the Arms tree cud need a bit of a change.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This ability is ridiculously good when you get into Outland.

It doesn't seem like much, I know. But when you crit, this is giving you a ton of rage. Critting a melee strike usually throws my rage up almost 35-40% on one swing. Two crits and a normal strike are enough to fill my rage bar if I'm not doing something with it. But Endless Rage is necessary for this.

It especially helps now that the whole Death Wish > Endless Rage thing is over. Arms Warriors going down to Endless Rage will already have Death Wish. The pudding to this is that you're already going down the tree far enough to get Mortal Strike, so the extra umph to get Endless Rage won't really cost that much. And trust me, it is EXTREMELY useful when you have a slow attack speed and need as much rage as possible off every swing to fuel Slam spamming, MS, and your debuffs.

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