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Threat Reduction Details:
This effect gives a flat value reduction in threat generation per spell cast.

-100 Threat: Frostbolt, Scorch
-20 Threat: Arcane Missiles, Fireball

As you can see, the Netherwind set favors Frost Magi over Fire Magi due to the higher threat reduction on Frostbolt than Fireball. It also favors Frost Magi due to the 8 piece bonus only activating on the primary Frost nuke (Frostbolt) whilst not activating off the more mana efficient Fire nuke (Scorch).

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Update!

So I ran some tests on an internal server. I'm using a different version of WoW, so I can't be 100% sure if these findings are accurate on 1.8 Live servers. The good news is that if things are different, then I'm testing what they WILL be for 1.9.

- Netherwind 3 piece bonus. It works fine. It's reducing the flat amount across all spell levels. There's no apparent "inverting" going on. The numbers for threat reduction you've seen for the three spells are technically correct, since the flat reduction is applied on every missile of Arcane Missiles, and on the initial DD and each of the 4 ticks of the Fireball DoT.

- "Stacking" of threat reduction effects. Every single one of them I tested stack. This includes the Netherwind bonus, Arcane Subtlety, Blessing of Salvation, Nemesis Bonus, and Master Demonologist. However, note that they don't always stack in the way you might hope. You don't add all the percentages up, then apply the combined multiplier to the damage your spell does to obtain threat. So if you have Blessing of Salvation (30%), Master Demonologist (20%), and the Nemesis set bonus (20%), you aren't generating just 30% of your normal threat. The true number is something a bit higher. The specific details of the stacking are something I'll pursue further with the class team and programmers to make sure we're happy with how they're working, but the important thing is that each bonus does provide a significant threat reduction.

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Kommentar von Allakhazam

first!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can someone explain me what means Threat coz i dunno:/

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The threat reduction is not 20% as Skullo says, imo, but is a flat amount that is different for each of the spells.

Frostbolt and scorch have 100 threat reduced, fireball and arcane missiles get 20 threat reduced. That's the equivalent of doing 100 less damage on a frostbolt/scorch and 20 on the others.

"The numbers for threat reduction you've seen for the three spells are technically correct, since the flat reduction is applied on every missile of Arcane Missiles, and on the initial DD and each of the 4 ticks of the Fireball DoT. "

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/sp=21879

note: I don't claim to be an authority on this, it's just my interpretation of the thottbot info about Friendly Nukes :P

Edited, Thu Jun 1 11:37:42 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

someone knows exact % threat gets reduced ?

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Modifies Threat -10000:
Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Frostblitz, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen, Versengen

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Apply Aura: [Modifies Threat] (2)
Wert: -10000
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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	Versengen	Frostblitz	Frostblitz
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Apply Aura: [Modifies Threat] (2)
Wert: -2000
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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Feuerball	Feuerball	Feuerball
Feuerball	Feuerball	Feuerball
Feuerball	Feuerball	Feuerball
Feuerball	Feuerball	Feuerball
Feuerball	Feuerball

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Apply Aura: [Modifies Threat] (2)
Wert: -2000
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
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Arkanes Geschoss	Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse
Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse
Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse
Arkane Geschosse	Arkane Geschosse der Zangarmarschen	Arkane Geschosse
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