Kommentare

Kommentar von Rinkotsu

20 Felcloth (farmed in Felwood off Satyrs).
16 Core Leather (one skinned off each Core Hound in Molten Core).
8 Bloodvine (found in Zul'Gurub off mobs or veins).
4 Essence of Fire (a lot can be found in Molten Core).
4 Ironweb Spider Silk (easily picked up in a single Lower Blackrock Spire run).

Kommentar von 6710

Is there any bigger ones the expansion? I haven't seen any.

Kommentar von 7043

The pattern to make this bag is dropped by any of the bosses in Molten Core (excluding Ragnaros).
The bag in fact is quite nice for raiding warlocks that need to do multiple summons/healthstones/soulstones often and in large bulks.

Kommentar von 7266

Nope. Currently this is the highest bag.

Kommentar von 7423

This still is an insane amount for this bag. 16 core leather may be one guild run for people having it on farm, however, those are best used elsewhere, or sold to fund the guilds progress in my opinion.

Coming in TBC with the new summoning stones, warlocks will get an easier time with having to summon anyway, and can use less shards hopefully

Kommentar von 8271

This bag is super expensive to make and very worth it for warlocks in end game raiding who like to have their SS bag full

Kommentar von Poker

Anyone going after this bag - I'll recommend this to you. Be in a guild which is in MC and wouldn't mind giving you the excess Core Leather, as well as has a few Bloodvine in ZG. As for Felcloth, I highly doubt your guild will be that generous to you, so the best place I can recommend for you to go to farm it is not in Felwood where the Satyrs are often stalked by both Alliance and Horde farmers, but in northeast Azshara. When it comes to the Essence of Fire, there's a good chance of it dropping in UBRS (or if you're not afraid of too heavily imposing upon your guild, ask them for some from MC), while the Ironweb Spider Silk can be snagged from LBRS (spider section)

Kommentar von Odinn

Ironweb Spider Silk is also a 10-20% drop off any of the spiders in Western Plaguelands, for people who prefer farming their crafting materials solo.

Kommentar von 9847

"Oh all i can say is i have this bag, Get it you'll need it holds the most shards and as a warlock our shards are our life. My guildmaster gave me one and i love the space i have now instead of taking up the space for my loot i can put my shards in this bag and one other and i'm set.."

Kommentar von Gary13579

Since the release of Burning Crusade, getting the Core Leather and Bloodvine can be a pain. Luckily, Blizzard added a new (although same size) and cheaper Soul Shard bag, Ebon Shadowbag (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=21872).

If you're a tailor (specifically Shadowcloth tailor), as most Warlocks are, making it should be a breeze.

Kommentar von 51275

It's still solid in TBC. Try looking at the AH once in a while or ask in the trade channel for Core Leather and Bloodvine. You can get the materials pretty cheap from people who had them lying around for ages.

The TBC 28 slot soulbag sells for ~300g, so if you can clean out some old guild banks for a few gold, you can actually make a nice profit.

Kommentar von 155265

It still pays to have an epic bag though. Soul Bag or not.

Kommentar von 22589

In my opinion this bag is a must for all real warlocks. I think I paid 400-600gold for mine and I'll rather pay that amount of money for an epic bag from MC than that blue bag.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This one dropped for our guild in Molten core yesterday just from a random trashmob, just after someone announced that it would take a long time to get a pattern drop anyways :)

But we were lucky! Too bad we dont have that much core leather atm to make a couple of bags we used them in other recipes to boost FR gear.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ours dropped from Garr, and the mats arnt that nuts. the core leather should be free from your guild for dkp, so should the fire essences or at least very discount (10 dropped today clearing) the felcloth i admit is outrageous but nessessary. bloodvine x6... that sucks too
ironweb spider silk easy

Kommentar von Thottbot

look at how many people in MC guilds are getting this. if you can get the mats, just have patience and someone who you run MC with will likely get this pattern. don't waste gold on some jerk.

Kommentar von Thottbot

as a warlock exalted with mc --- one mc run - 28 shards more than enough
what about the bag , well its not a thing that is so important for a raiding lock and what about the price - well most of the guilds gather the core leathers in gbanks so u need just to have money for bloodvines , felcloth and essences

Kommentar von Thottbot

This bag is extremely useful to me, especially in BG cause I use shadowburn alot. And I know, shadowburn returns a shard if the opponent is killed within 5 sec, but that doesn't always happen. So it's nice to have a huge stack of shards when you start. If you've played a lock, you know your shards can dissapear rather quickly and I say the more I can hold the better. Plus, the mats are far too easy to get. Just a few hours of farming and ask the guild for the rest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Each raiding warlock must have at least 1 such bag especially if you are not yet farming the instance. Today in MC (my first run) my usual solo set of 14 shards gone in 2 min.
It's like ammo punches for hunters - can't use free slots but advantages worth it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Come on guys, don't forget that the shard bag tells you how many shards you have left without having to hit any buttons. The number is right there in front of you. I'd say that's a pretty good reason to use a shard bag instead of a regular bag. Plus that fact that they're all stored neatly, and not all over the friggen place in 5 different bags, that's a good thing too right? And yes a lock can burn shards like NASCAR burns gas. So if ya got the cash and resources why not get a bigger shard bag?

Kommentar von Thottbot

For either all those non-60 warlocks and/or non-raiding warlocks, i agree this bag is expensive and hard to get. But for all of you that are complaining, if you raid MC on a normal basis and do ZG, these mats are easier to come by and the bag shouldnt be too hard to make. The slots also do make a difference. If you are in a raiding guild, it's best to have as many shards as possible.

btw, have the felcloth, the spider slik is easy to buy or farm up in silithus, bloodvine is easy since i have the scythe from ZG, I have the 4 essence of fire from farming the elementals in Ungoro, and since my guild runs MC on a normal basis, my GM can spare the core leather.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Get the pattern in the scholo from Jandice Barov for the 24 slot bag. More is ofcourse better, but for the time being the mat requirements for the 28 slotter are a bit excessive. Only really worth it if you raid a lot in my opinion. Things might change if the proposed stat bonus for shard bags is introduced depending on what those are going to be.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, I just want to add my 2c to the debate over whether to have this beauty or not.

I am a 'lock in a pretty hard-core raiding guild. It is guild 'lock policy to have AT THE VERY LEAST 25-30 shards before getting to the instance. Summoning, Soulstoning, handing out Healthstones etc. let's say that every 'lock brings just enough shards to deal with this and they enter the instance with 0-5 shards each.

Where are the shadowburns? Important dps spells for 'locks.
Where are the soulfires? Again, when not fighting immune mobs very useful.

Having to Soul drain on every single decreases our DPS by a large amount and in all honesty, a 'locks job is to be in the top 10 on the damage meter, not top 20 because they didn't have enough shards to cope with all that's required.

Personally I'm about to get one of these lovely bags as they simply make our lives easier. At first I was sceptical but since moving from a travelers pack to a 20-shard bag, I have noticed the difference and now can't wait.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The fact is, for most people, the core leather is going to be the most expensive part, followed by bloodvine.

I'll say it like this: if you have to BUY the core leather, you don't need this bag.

Kommentar von Thottbot

WTB option to hide all "can make..." comments.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Not sure how other locations will work for this, but mobs around searing gorge (lvl 48-49) are not green to lvl 60, making shard farming more difficult. :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

even tho it is expensive,this is needed for raiding warlocks. If you disagree, do AQ40 after sartura and enjoy all the whispers u get for summons(and for every attempt u have to do the tunnel over and over again). and enjoy all the whispers to even get from the lazy people who decide to jack off while afk in a city somewhere after the raid was suppose to start. also u need healthstones for yourself and for the tanks that may need one (esp. if u have improved healthstone)to avoid a wipe. you may also have to summon someone if there are respawns in instances or in bwl after suppression room if there are new raid members that need summons. so if this available to u, then get it, if not the 24 slot shard bag isnt hard to get and far cheaper...now that i wasted sleep typing that--

i can make 24 and 28 bag and i think 20 slot bag too...haras - burning blade -alliance

Kommentar von Thottbot

do you have to be lvl 60 to use this? i have a 40 lock and 8 extra shards would be nice.

Kommentar von Thottbot

heh have you seen the mats on the new 28 slot bag? would cost more than 600g in mats to make... scavanged these mats out of old guild banks for next to nothing. had to spend 20g to get it crafted thoe.

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol i think its funny how ppl sell to 20 slot soul bag for wat...4g? then its for 24 slot bag its 300g! then it goes up to 28 then thats like 380g!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is this the biggest soul bag you can get?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this on Hakkar(ENG) Hordeside (Allanpoe Undead Mage)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hopefully blizz will change the mats on this since no one raids MC and ZG anymore

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You all suck, this is clearly a rogue item

Kommentar von Allakhazam

NxxCess on the Windrunner (Alliance) server can make this bag (10g+mats)

Edited, Wed May 10 21:47:38 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nice bag.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Pattern drops in molten core off bosses like the other rare patterns/formulas/etc. This bag holds soul shards only, displays a number in the bottom right corner of the bag icon indicating the number of shards you have and auto-sorts shards into the bag when you drain souls.

Very nice addition to the game though it lacks a bonus like hunter quivers.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am responding to a few of these crazy comments.

- How can you say 28 is the bare minimum? If you have all Onyxia/Bottomless bags the max number of slots you can have is 88. How many do you normally carry for a raid? If you need more than 28 fill one of the 18's, that still leaves you with 46 shards.

- Someone please explain to me why you would need all the shards anyway. A raid is 40-man max, which means no more than 37 summons should be needed. That being said I seriously doubt you have less than 3 locks for any 40-man raid, which means you need all of 13 shards max for this.

- Also why would you be using so many shards for pet summoning/damage? Locks have no reason to be DPS'ers. Your DPS should only be Rogue/Hunter/Warrior/Mage. Everyone else is a healer or utility man. Your only purpose in a raid should be Soulstones/Healthstones. If you wanna do damage out of boredom, just spam shadowbolts and DOT's. The skills that require shards cause too much threat anyway and will screw up tanking! You have no reason to change pets all that often either; other than summoining Doomguards.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, since no other information is given other than it is a 28 slot bag for locks only, I am guessing this is a soul shard bag.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

dont bring hunters into this as everytime you use 1 shard they use maybe 50 arrows
the bag is a good thing but have you ever thought maybe they intentionally made a limit to how many shards you can have so you dont get to overpowered its a matter of balance although that apperntly doesnt concern you as you already have 1 of the strongest classes

Kommentar von Allakhazam

very nice

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They were like quivers and had some bouns on them...asking too much i suppose.

I am supa happy to finally have this tho...bout time blizz!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

But you can hold only 28 Shards. WoW ... so nice ... 28 shards, thats NOTHING ...
In Zul Gurub, it is one wipe ... nice ... then you give every raidmember a Healthstone an they are gone.

Why Blizz dont make Shards Stackable ... 5 or 10, why you can't buy Shards ? Hunters can do so with their Arrows.

Think of a Hunter who must build their Arrows an they were not stackable ... nice Idea ... or a Mage with soulbounded Water and Bread ... which do not stack ... thne finally the vendors with food an drinks make sense, and the manacakes from the argentums will be much more interesting.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I don't see why people are saying it's so tiny. I raid with at least two other warlocks, and if we each have one of these, we can easily keep the raid supplied with stones and whatnot - after wipes or what have you.

I'm looking forward to getting this pattern dropped so the 'locks in my guild can stop using up all their normal bagspace. Onyxia hide bags are wonderful, but I'm more than happy to switch one out for one of these.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Thadark can make this on alliance side on Thunderhorn server.
pm or /w me in game.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

10 more shards than what would fit in a 18 slot bag. Fill one or two 18 slots and this. btw, rouge Ill outdps you and outlive you anyday. and that leather armour of yours isn't going to protect you. I wear dress and still live longer than you.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Alliance of Light on Gilneas server got the drop tonight. PST our GM's Raki or Xycanth for info on getting it made. We will make for mats plus few extra cores

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just got the pattern to make this selling it on Shadowmoon server alliance side send me an in game mail to Bankerman if your interested

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I think this is a good idea, i have been using my soul pouch and love it, i would happily dish out for this when the time comes, its whole ability of moving any shards into the bag when space is freed, showing the number of shards you have and generally making life easier is invaluable.

If it wernt for some other usefull features of necrosis then it would have been made redundant by this.

And to the guy who said we have no reason to be DPS, think again, in the right gear we out DPS all other classes, mages..um spam frost in MC/BWL, rogues..never likes them.. warriors..take damage please..still good dps but no where near a caster....hunter..ok very good dps if played well and built well but we still win

Kommentar von Allakhazam

28 shards is hardly a ton of shards. At best it's the bare bones number of shards a lock should venture out with. A considerable amount of Warlock ability is centered around the use of shards. And replenishment, while not hard, is not something a lock needs to focus on when in the midst of combat activities.
Soulstone
Healthstone
Shadowburn
Soulfire
Ritual of Summoning
Firestone
Spellstone
Voidwalker
Succi
Felhunter
Two bags of shards will still be the basic load-out now, but at least 'locks will have a decent # of shards with the new bag type available.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This bag (and all the Shard bags for that matter) is a bonus. And to try to prove otherwise is mildly amusing at best.

If you have 4 Bottomless Bags you have (as mentioned earlier) 88 slots. With Soul Pouch 90 slots, Felcloth Bag 92 slots and Core Felcloth Bag 94 slots. Amazing, you actually have 6 slots more with the Core Felcloth Bag than you would with only Bottomless Bags.

No one is telling you to only have Soul Shards in these bags if you need more than 24 Soul Shards for whatever - it's actually still possible to have Soul Shards in your ordinary bags as well. You just get 6 extra Soul Shards without using up anymore inventory space than you usually would. So if you usually run around with 40 or 80 Soul Shards you just have 6 more slots for loot or whatever than you would with only Bottomless Bags.

If you can't see you bonus of that... I pity the fool. :)

And to all the FFSOMGWTF-whiners: it's actually possible to Drain Soul in battle and you don't need to use all your Soul Shards to obtain new ones. Nothing short of amazing.

And don't start with the whole "Yeah, but Soul Shard Bags can only hold Soul Shards". True, but you need these shards. You're actually telling everyone at every possible opportunity you get that you NEED (!) at least 80 or more Soul Shards for playing. So it's really not a problem. At all. With or without these bags you cary the shards. And if you don't need the Shards, just don't get the bag. It's that simple.

Dig?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can craft this on Horde side - Realm: Suramar

Kommentar von Allakhazam

davidwolf on Burning Blade(EU) Horde side will craft these for materials + a nominal fee

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, I got this yesterday, and I just want to correct one of the previous posts. It is NOT possible to use more than one special bag. (I tried it with the core bag and the soul pouch)
I hope that I can still carry a cenarion satchel too (but somehow I doubt it, can somebody confirm?)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Kotoko can make, gurubashi alliance, for mats +10g

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If u want this on Frostwhisper eu get mats & /w Papillion

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can make this on Doomhammer, Hordeside
Get the mats and whisper Gorgath, 10g charge for the job.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This item will give locks yet another advantage in PvP, where shard shortages are common. Allthough the advantages in raids are obvious, the bags let locks use more abilities like soulfire and shadowburn against opposing faction players. In extended PvP conflicts like AV, this advantage cannot be overlooked.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you raid, and the mats are simple as pie to come by, then sure, the 4 extra shards are worth it.

But this bag is in no way worth the 300-400 gold I've seen it go for constantly on the AH. Seriously, if 4 shards are making that much of a difference, just train yourself to hit Drain Soul at the end of a mob's life, and spend that money on other, more useful, gear. This is in no way a "high priority" item.

Kommentar von 6On8

Didn't think this was worth it until hitting AQ, need to have NR set for Viscidus and SR set for Twin emps. I can no longer bring two 24 slot bags so it is crucial I have the largest bag possible in that one slot.

Kommentar von Cursewolf

Keep in mind that this Schwarzschattentasche has 28 Slots as well as the Kernteufelsstofftasche.
Just find someone who has learned Muster: Kernteufelsstofftasche.

Schattenstoff is on my TBC Classic server pretty expensive and highly requested. I saved about 350g with the old Bag from Molten Core and saved my Shadowcloth for Warlock TBC Best in Slot Items.

3D-Ansicht Bessere Gegenstände finden...Links

Kurzübersicht

Screenshots

Videos

Kernteufelsstofftasche

Weiteres

Beitragen