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Kommentar von utimer

A small note, it used to be bugged until patch 1.12.1, giving off an aura that reduced party healing to 0.

Kommentar von 3471

Yeah, this is the warlock version. In my opinion, I think it's better than the mage version. A constant addition to party spell damage is better than 2% to crit. Plus the warlock version gives the user a 2% chance to crit while the mage's give the user a 2% chance to hit. If you're at the point to be able to get this staff, you probably will have your chance to hit maximized.

Kommentar von Smirkloph

Yes, you cant choose any other as you get different quest for each class. You can see it as a Legendary Class Quest

Kommentar von 5326

Makes me sad that the legendary staff of Medivh would sell to a vendor for 18g, 51s, and 58c.

I can just imagine that conversation.

Player: But.. this is the staff the wizard Medivh used when he spoke to Thrall, King Terenas, and Jaina Proudmoore. This staff is rich in Azerothian history and was once wielded by the man who is responsible for creating the Dark Portal!
Merchant: Ehh... I'll give you eighteen gold.
Player: ...
Merchant: Okay, okay, eighteen and a half.

Kommentar von Mayan

Just a point, the original atiesh from Medievh has the red color on the string below the head, notice that the warlock version of the staff is red aswell, thank you blizzard for pointing out that:

-Medievh, Azeroth's most powerfull human was a warlock.

-Atiesh, would be most suited on a Warlock instead of the other classes.

:>

Kommentar von 9518

EDIT: this comment now redundant.

Kommentar von 76710

Is this staff still the best caster weapon in the game? Or are there expansion items that are better?

Kommentar von 83809

how do u get this staf ? were does it dropps ?

Kommentar von 76394

NOTE

You need 42 pieces to make Atiesh.

It is a reference to the book "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams.

In the book there was made a super computer to tell the people the meaning of life, the world and everything.

The computer said them to wait 10.000 years while it was thinking.

The final answer was 42...

Kommentar von 83809

is this a gm item ?

Kommentar von 42159

Still better than S3 weapon + badge shadow offhand if you're in a full caster group, although having a resto shaman and/or having the 2.3 badge offhand as a destruction specced warlock can tip the scales.
Definitely not worth going back for it :)

Kommentar von 115816

jw, Where do you get this Staff??

Kommentar von 52464

If you have this, or any other Atiesh equipped in the fight with Shade of Aran, he will yell "Where did you get that, did he send you!?"

Kommentar von 97358

i think there will we a better version of this staff in the new expansion wolk, couse blizzard told that naxx is gonna come back . so i wont be suprised to see an new version

Kommentar von 136440

Has anyone noticed that every version of Atiesh has a differently colored ribbon?

Kommentar von Fliz

Is it still possible to get this? =D

Kommentar von 382263

they totally took this out of the game cept for the poeple who alrdy had it gratz 2 u guyz

Kommentar von Gnoktish

sadly this item was made so no-one can get it, Blizz should atleast make it usable like most items in the game so we dont miss out on stuff we love most....

Kommentar von IbFeeshin

Is it just me or does it look pretty simple (not OMG IT SHINY!) for a legendary weapon, I mean, seriously, look at other level 60 legendaries.

Kommentar von 572067

Hunter weapon

Kommentar von deanbrennan

Can any of yee tell me, is this item still obtainable... and if not what legendary items can be got and how do ya get them?

Kommentar von Peso

Patch 1.1 - Patch 7.0.3

Splitter des Talismans des Bindens
Donnerzorn, Gesegnete Klinge des Windsuchers
Sulfuras, Hand von Ragnaros
Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters
Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters
Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters
Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters
Kriegsgleve von Azzinoth
Kriegsgleve von Azzinoth
Thori'dal, Furor der Sterne
Val'anyr, Hammer der Uralten Könige
Schattengram
Drachenzorn, Tarecgosas letzte Ruhe
Golad, Zwielicht der Aspekte
Tiriosh, Alptraum der Zeitalter

Kommentar von 968576

So this really pissed me Blizzard. Why cancel the old legendary items and replace them with ones that are very difficult to obtain. Basing Outland and Northrend drove all the players from other continents, and now everyone is just in Dalaran. In addition: I have not seen a single player with new legendary items: Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest, Tiriosh, Nightmare of Ages and Golad, Twilight of Aspects. That's right may be revoked by any other legendary things because raids from which to acquire these items certainly do not go. Because the maximum is now level 85, one player managed to go, should Molten Core raids still short of classic. But when he gets this subject, so it will be just about anything. At least Blizzard could cancel an unpleasant thing sets. For example, when one player has a character level 85 mage and he would pass through Molten Core, a level 60 Warior and wants to be put together T2. But here's the problem. The T2 is set or data can be sent to auction only a belt and wrists. Other courses are but soullbond. So if you want to put together a set, you need to tell a friend you pulled raid, but to all the parts you fall, you will have to go raid about 7 times. And it can take you straight to level 70 set, even if you wanted to set the 60th level Blizzard would not interfere but definitely legendary things. An example is now: Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian and Asbringer

Kommentar von Deathwingpwner

Hey! I remember Having that in the BC expansion. Ah, good Times, good times...

Kommentar von Eillesthis

In late vanilla (and throughout the Burning Crusade), this was the Hexenmeister version of the legendary Naxxramas weapon. It came in four flavors (see the tabs above), and is no longer obtainable. Ravens circled it periodically.

From patch 1.11 "Shadow of the Necropolis" in June 2006, to patch 3.0.2 "Echoes of Doom" in October 2008, Naxxramas hung over the Östliche Pestländer and dropped Tier 3 raid armor and sometimes Bruchstück von Atiesh. After lots and lots of Naxx runs (no small feat at the time), 40 splinters could be combined into the Grundstab von Atiesh, and then you had to find someone to help you recover the head and base on Grundstab von Atiesh. "There is also a minor issue regarding the staff being a conduit for Sargeras's evil." Provided you had worked your way up to neutral with the Brut Nozdormus, Anachronos knows all, and he sent you out on Atiesh, der korrumpierte Hohestab. Once on the quest, the Stabkopf von Atiesh dropped from Kel'Thuzad at the end of Naxx, and the the Stabfuß von Atiesh dropped from C'Thun in the Ahn'Qiraj (thanks, Brann, for that...). Anachronos then sent you out on Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters to Stratholme to get Atiesh out of Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters, and then kill him of course.

In lore, the Greatstaff was wielded by Die Wächter von Tirisfal, up through Der letzte Wächter Medivh, who was possessed by Sargeras.

Kommentar von Thottbot

looks like it was mirrored over from the priest staff onto this staff (the warlocks).

All of the comments from the warlock and priest staff are linked together right now since thottbot's programming doesn't recognize a difference in them right now.

Kommentar von Thottbot

When you click the warlock or mage version of the staff, it pulls up the comments from BOTH staves COMBINED...

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's the staff of Medivh - the design of the staff has been a matter of fact for years, how could they implement it in WoW then have it look absolutely nothing like how it's supposed to?

Just blame Medivh for having no imagination and move on.
;)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anachronos, the big Bronze Dragon hanging out in front of the Caverns of Time, starts the quest after you collect the 40 splinters.

If your in a guild that is having a hard time with AQ40 and decide to skip it and to try and get the 'phat looties' from Naxx, you're never going to get this staff.

You're going to need to be at least Neutral with the Brood of Nozdormu, and be able to kill C'thun to get the base. As well as kill Kel'Thuzad for the head, but that should go with out say.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just so everyone knows, they didn't deisgn the staff out of nowhere. It is the staff of Medivh from the other Warcraft games. Yes, it is an owl on a stick, but it goes along with Warcraft lore. Personally I would love to have it and show it off because it was based off of a really awesome character.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is the legendary staff based off of medihv's staff in WCIII. The stats and effects change depending on what class is using it.
WARLOCK VERSION:

Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130 - 244 Damage Speed 2.90
(64.4 damage per second)
+30 Stamina
+29 Intellect
Durability 145 / 145
Classes: Warlock
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to crit with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 150.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects of all party members within 30 yards by up to 33.
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.
Item Level 90

DRUID VERSION:

Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130 - 244 Damage Speed 2.90
(64.4 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
+28 Intellect
+27 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Classes: Druid
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 300.
Equip: +420 Attack Power in Cat, Bear, and Dire Bear forms only.
Equip: Restores 11 mana every 5 sec to party members within 30 yards.
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.

MAGE VERSION:

Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130 - 244 Damage Speed 2.90
(64.4 damage per second)
+31 Stamina
+32 Intellect
+24 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Classes: Mage
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to hit with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 150.
Equip: Gives party members within 30 yards a chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.
Use: Creates a portal. Teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.

PRIEST VERSION:

Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian
Two Hand Staff
130 - 244 Damage Speed 2.90
(64.4 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
+28 Intellect
+27 Spirit
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases healing done by magical spells and effects of all party members within 30 yards by up to 62.
Equip: Increases your spell damage by up to 120 and your healing by up to 300.
Use: Creates a portal, teleporting group members that use it to Karazhan.
Item Level 90

Its pretty much an wooden owl on a stick, and the cloth strip hanging off of it glows a different color for each class.
Alot of people say "oo they dont look that shiney for the ultimate staves". Well i think of it as an "old money" kind of staff. Old money doesnt need to show off and be flashy. Old money is pimp, and it knows it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The bird on top is a raven, not an owl. The appearance almost exactly matches how it looks in the Warcraft III cinematics, most prominently visible when Medivh appears as a raven and warns king Terenas of the plague.

This is probably one of the only items that has been modeled before they even started working on WoW, explaining the not-so-legendary looks.
But it would've been very odd if they changed it into something more appealing, while it has been so well visible before.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Interesting point you made (beside the swearing, that is), I found it quite remarkable to find such great difference in stats.
It may be due to the fact that the mage version has yet to be found, and may still change.

But when calculating the item points used it can make sense. For easy experimention I used http://subcreation.net/itemlevel/ to calculate items levels (uses the Hyz system), the item scores below refer to the raw item scores used in this calculation.

Let's compare:

The stats that are the same, and therefore can be left out of the calculations:
- 150 damage/healing
- Karazhan portal

The mage version:
- 31 sta - Item score: 7130
- 32 int - Item score: 7360
- 24 spi - Item score: 5520
- 2% hit - Item score: 5000
- 2% crit to all party members - 2% crit has an item score of 5200. I assumed it is multiplied by 5 (the number of party members), so 26000.

All added together: 51010

The warlock version:
- 30 sta - Item score: 6900
- 29 int - Item score: 6670
- 2% crit - Item score: 5200
- 33 damage/healing to all party members - As above, but now for 33 damage/healing with an item score of 6336, resulting in 31680.

All added together: 50450

So the difference would be 560 points, which seems to be equivalent to only a few stat points, or they can be attributed to the inaccuracy of the calculator.

Of course, this may be wrong:
- the calculator can just suck
- my assumption for the value of the party member effects is wrong
- I may have misinterpreted the way the calculator should be used
- etc. etc.

Bottom line is that the stats for these items may be defendable using WoW's item values.

But I sure agree that is seems imbalanced.

Kommentar von Thottbot

To make everyone know...
medivh is the son of the woman who killed sargeras, she got corrupted and when medivh born, the cursed transfered to him, and from him to the stave.So he opened the dark portal to let the orcs come to azeroth and make it less powerfuller to the coming of the legion, then when orc became good, undeads came and started to corrupt the world

Kommentar von Thottbot

Gotta love how the CASTER legendary gets outdated so guickly :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Why actually keep the staff when you could sell it? I mean it's over 17g vendor! Think of all the darkmoon reserve! ;)Not to mention, of course, you would become world famous among all warcraft players as the dumbass who actually turned it into vendor trash...

Kommentar von Thottbot

There seems to be a conflict. Some people want this staff to look menacing and evil with at least two different glows, maybe some spikes and acid dripping from a shark's mouth or something. Another group finds the simplicity of design and lore behind the current model admirable.

The only resolution to this conflict is to increase the size of the current staff by 10000%, allowing it to sweep grandly though the entire city of Ironforge every time its wielder turns around.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The staff will port you OUTSIDE Karazhan, and eaven if you wanted get this staff, Karazhan attunement would be easyer.

Pre-BC, this staff was like... well lets say like doing a lvl 65 or maybe 66 instance at lvl 60, and it was very hard. i myself never got a splinter - The mages (priests got Hammer of Twisting Nether) had priority - and since im warlock i could just cry tears of flame in anger :(

Now, after BC, this staff is easy to get if you have a guild willing help you whit it. I heard of guilds grinding it to their casters for the Portal to Karazhan (evryone HS shattrath and take the port, easy and fast for repair etc)

To clear out the quest // drop to get it:

Pieces
The staff has been split into several pieces which were scattered around the world.

Kel'Thuzad's underlings in Naxxramas each have a chance to drop a .
Once all 40 Splinters have been found, they may be combined into the , which gives a quest to visit the dragon Anachronos. You are then given a quest to obtain the Staff Head and Base of Atiesh.
Kel'Thuzad drops .
The drops from C'Thun in the Temple of Ahn'Qiraj.
You have to travel to Stratholme to cleanse the staff, and then slay Atiesh, Hand of Sargeras.
(Than ks to WoWWiki)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh%2C_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian

Kommentar von Thottbot

Id put mongoose on this

Kommentar von Thottbot

When u fight Shade of Aran and someone in the party has this staff equiped he will say "Where did you get that? Did HE send you?"

Kommentar von Thottbot

I really do wonder why blizzard didn't do something with the level 60 content. Onyxia used to be legend, now there's no amazing sort of bosses or anything, just a demon. Oh yeah. He's 100'000'000ft tall. He used to be human blizz. HUMAN -.-

It annoys me that nobody will ever enjoy wow as much as I did pre-TBC. I'm hoping blizz will make non-TBC servers once WoTLK is out but I very much doubt it when it could discourage people from buying their expansions.

With them getting £10 a month from so many million people you'd think they would be happy enough but they want us to give them the extra £10 every time they release an expansion to make their last end game pointless again.

In the end it's just a game but knowing that all those amazing outdoor bosses, onyxia, ragnaros and so much more will go unkilled for years makes me sort of sad. =[

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm not sure if anyone else has said this, but whenever you fight Shade of Aran in Karazhan and one of the raid members has Atiesh, he says "Where did you get that! Did HE send you?".

Kommentar von Thottbot

Each staff has a diffrent color tassel hanging from the head... druid is green, mage is red, lock is blue, and priest is white.

Kommentar von Thottbot

First the 'hunter wepon' things is VERY stupid . Imagine that u are a fury war and a hunter will take your 1h sword just becaus it looks cool ... almost all nubs are hunter .

Second : The staff is VERY hard 2 get , even a 20 mad ( 70 ofc) raid will get raped in naxx and AQ40

3rd : yes i think that TBC are very stupid and have no story ... exept illidan

4th : the staff is no good at 70 ... beter buy The Bringer of Death that to farm the stafll 300 hours :D

tks and sorry 4 my english

Kommentar von Thottbot

I left a comment under C'Thun about bringing pre-BC stuff back (which I am all for).

Besides that, I think this staff is amazing and even though it isn't even close to being the best staff in the game, in my mind it is one of the most impressive. You also have to throw in the fact that most epics even tier 1 and 2 were replaced very early in BC, to think this staff made it all the way to 70 without be replaced is huge (and even at 70 it was still pretty good back in the early days of BC)?.

It would be very hard to find a group of 70's willing to help anyone get this staff, everyone is far too wrapped up in getting heroic badges and PvPing to even think about this staff. If I could have the chance to get this staff, I would hands down at whatever the cost.

Not to mention, there is a possibility that you won't be able to obtain this staff in WOTLK with the revamp, sure they may add a lvl 80 version or they might not. But whether there is a 80 version and a 60 version, this may very well be a DISCONTINUED legendary piece that very few will have.

Kommentar von Thottbot

were does it drop

Kommentar von Thottbot

Are you sure anachronos gives u the quest end for "frame of Atiesh?" Every time i go near him he beats the living crap out of me. I remember getting some reputaion for killing that one boss in Ahn'Quraj, but im not quite sure were i can get more...

Kommentar von Thottbot

One of the graphics designers for blizzard, as I understand was from Iran.
Atiesh, in Iranian means fire. Just thought you may like to know.
Also, the 42 parts to make Atiesh is a reference to pluto nash, when these oricals said that the answer to life was 42.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Not too bad.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Umm okay It's not just about looks either. Dude I hate to say it gut this staff is a joke. Seriously. How much BS did some one go through to get this? Because Frankly I just can't see it being worth it other than the really nice stat boosts. I mean yeah I gues the AoE boost effect would be nice but get real. That's what Paladin and moonkin are for. And they are ALOT easier to obtain. Below are some staves taht I think are better and MUCH easier to get.

Schwefelstab Brimstone Staff

Seelensucher Soul Keeper

Spitze des Zwiespalts Spire of Twilight

Okay Come on WTF! Three epic staves with Higher stat boosts and healing/dmg boosts? Blizzard this new staff is LEGENDARY! Make it worth the trouble or throw it away.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Expected something wilder, to be honest. But its not bad :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

everything u need to know about it...enjoy

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Okay..Just to clear a few things up in case you haven't read below or perhaps it wasn't posted yet. This is the Warlock Version of the Staff.

Anyway, I had a question about this Yummy Stick of Destruction...(giggles). Maybe someone here knows.

I see that it does 150 Spell Damage but what about that other buff it does?

"Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects of all party members within 30 yards by up to 33. "

Other then the party members, will it buff you as well? Making that 150 spell damage to a whopping 183 Spell Damage! If so, that would be just dandy.

Does anyone know?

Edited, Oct 21st 2006 at 1:11pm PDT by Scarletrose

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Complete guide on obtaining Atiesh including Lore and in-game photos http://www.ghidul-universitatilor.ro/?4851

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As always, spellcasters have been @#$%ed over in the looks department.

Staff of Dominance looks better. Staff of the Shadow Flame looks better. This better be a placeholder.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://img.visadig.se/img/880310176631.jpg

http://img.visadig.se/img/857430648665.jpg

http://img.visadig.se/img/92050264371.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There's a pic of it here: http://www.dtguilds.com/images/grats%20mal.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

wow what a wast of time...yeah, the buffs are nice, but all the work and time that you need to get this...for a pinecone on a stick.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I want to know where the hell the other 25+ stat points went. All the other versions have like 80 points, with another 25 in spirit. Why not boost ours a bit for the other two at least?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hey would this work on a hunter?

o.O

(yes this is a serious question)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Who thinks this is a better weapon for a Warlock (Yes, I used Blurpp for it):

http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=425196

E-mail me at Rustymanred@hotmail.com and tell me your feed-back!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I thought that this was just the warlock version of this staff and priests/druids/mages had different stats, but it doesn't say it's class specific.... weird...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/drool

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hunter helmet

Kommentar von Masamuda

Naxx might be a looong loong way ahead in Classic WoW, but i still find myself drooling over the different variations of Atiesh.
This is truly amazing item.
In fact, it is so amazing that you wont be replacing it before your guild is raiding Karazhan; and even then, you might be better off just using Atiesh while on raids due to the party buff.
The later 70lvl epics will naturally replace it, but loots from heroic 5-mans and Karazhan are minor upgrades at best.

Kommentar von Silverado

We're going to compare Mage and Warlock versions (WoW Classic) so people have a better understanding of the math behind why this goes to Warlocks first.

Stat Weight Coefficients (Mage):
Spell Power = 7
Spell Critical Strike = 81
Spell Hit = 100
Intellect = 1

Stat Weight Coefficients (Warlock):
Spell Power = 5
Spell Critical Strike = 65
Spell Hit = 100
Intellect = 1

Adding up all the stats on both versions (minus the aura):
Mage = 1,050
Warlock = 750

Mages benefit from the staff the most from the actual stats (not including the aura) by a difference of +300

Both versions (aura):
Mage gives other Mages (including the player themselves) a +162 and gives Warlocks a +130
Warlock gives other Warlocks (including the player themselves) a +165 and gives Mages a +231

With a MH/OH combo or another 2H weapon, Mages can more than make up the +300 they would be getting if they used the staff, however, giving this to a Warlock will boost the DPS of all Mages and Warlocks in the group more than if a Mage was using it.

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Atiesh, Hohestab des Wächters

Gegenstandsstufe 90
Wird beim Aufheben gebunden

Zweihändig	Stab

225 - 338 Schaden	Tempo 2.90

(97.07 Schaden pro Sekunde)
+55 Ausdauer
Haltbarkeit 145 / 145

Benötigt Stufe 60
Anlegen: Erhöht die kritische Trefferwertung um 28.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Zaubermacht um 188.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Zaubermacht aller Gruppenmitglieder, die sich im Umkreis von 30 befinden, um 33.
Benutzen: Lässt ein Portal entstehen, das Gruppenmitglieder, die es benutzen, nach Karazhan teleportiert. (1 Min Abklingzeit)

Verkaufspreis: 18 51 58

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