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Kommentar von Kaiten

The Wetlands are a good place to quest and grind (for levels 20-30 of course). Beyond that they also are the quickest way for alliance players to get from Darkshore and visa versa.

The camps of Murlocs next to Menethil Harbor provides a very good grinding zone.

Kommentar von Ilias

How do you get to the location west of Thelgen rock, in the middle of the mountains with the lake on it?

Kommentar von 63832

hi im a level 19 dreanei hunter and i want to get to ironforge from auberdine but the wetlands are home to a lot of high level creatures id never stand a chance what i want to know is there any safe way around or through the wetlands

Kommentar von 63832

ok since i made it through the wetlands piece of cake i thought i might just give some advice to any other people who wanted to get through.
just stay on the path read all the signs if your a hunter activate beast tracking oh and if your goin to ironforge you will eventuly run into some orcs around about lvl 20 (you cant avoid them) if your lvl 16 or under just take your gear of and run through them also if your a dreanie then just cast gift of the naruu then run.
ps: this run make you wish you rolled as a rogue.
pps: get the menetill habour flight path first

Kommentar von Avedis

For any Horde running southbound (or any lost Alliance), the entrance to the cave that leads from Wetlands to the south is at 54,71.

Kommentar von stendarr

How 2 discover lake in mountains? 46 61?

Kommentar von 52879

how can it be a contested area all the quests are for allys and have no horde npcs i hated that place beacuse im a ble warlock and killed 5times beacuse of allys
all of the allys killing horde beacuse they are love ganking and they call horde bad guys but the real evil is alliance

Kommentar von 91124

Does anyone know how to get the lake, above the Dun Algaz road, I have seen it ont he map for awhile and was wondering what the secret was or the map was from a book that had every detail explored and it is really not explorable?

Kommentar von 107574

what lvls are those murlocs by the boat???

Kommentar von 128835

the wetlands are awesome there so good it makes outland look bad to me lol

Kommentar von 128835

the wetlands are a very good grinding zone but at lvl31-32 u got to stop there and go some where else

Kommentar von 100910

Best place for 29 twinks to gang allies :P

Kommentar von 146438

dont level here if you're a miner, there are few if any nodes

Kommentar von 66395

does anyone know if it's possible to explore the area near Thelgen Rock in the wetlands, that small body of water. on the maps it shows that there is water there, but when i go to the water it's not showing up on my map

Kommentar von 64159

Will the middle blank area be considered in the exploration achievement ..?

Kommentar von 228260

Good place for fishing...I found loads of Bristle Whisker Catfish there!

Kommentar von Kinta

As of the 3.0 patch, Menethil no longer connects via a boat path to Auberdine. There is no longer any boat path where the old one used to land for travel. The boat in Auberdine has since been linked to the new Stormwind harbor.

Edit - Instead of going to Auberdine, the boat now takes you to the Howling Fjord.

Kommentar von Vath

The old boat to Auberdine now leads to Howling Fjord.

Kommentar von 59821

If you're a warrior, you can get to the lake when lucky.

Usually there are two orc grunts up on the hill, one in the left and one in the right, when you're looking from the downward road. And both of them are distant enough so that you can't charge from any point under the hill.

But there is a ram wandering around between two orcs, and sometimes, luckily, it comes to the point close enough to charge to it. But using charge only will make you fall again from the cliff. (you know what charging to a mob on the stiff hill looks like)

First charge to the ram. And at that instant, change target to the right orc (recommend /focus on the orc), and then intercept to him. Make the whole step quick. And then you're by the lake!

By the way the lake doesn't appear on the world map even if I'm there.

Kommentar von 253465

As you fly over the mountains heading into the harbour you can see a house and garden. But I can't find a way to get to it. Anyone know?

Kommentar von 305022

This area, while not seeming to have much at first, does have some good highlights. For herbalists, liferoot can be found in large amounts here, provided there aren't too many people farming it. The Mosshide Gnolls also have a decent drop rate on wool.

However, unless farming, there isn't much here for Horde players, due to the lack of a Horde outpost here, and if you don't plan on farming then the only reason to visit this place is if you're going from Arathi and heading towards the Badlands.

Kommentar von 327412

I thoght i had to jump from the dam to get here and died like 3 times then found out i could go through dun algaz from loch modan.

Kommentar von 33463

As of 3/8/2009 (patch 3.0.9), it is still possible to ledge-jump from the non-snowy side of the northern tunnel of dun morogh and get into the mountains area that contains the Iron Forge Airport and allows access to some of the flight path "eye candy", including the small city in the southern mountains of Wetlands. There are Iron Forge Mountaineers there who will direct you to locations in Iron Forge as any city guard would do.

It is possible to travel the mountains as far west as Gnomeregan, though after this point, the hills become much too steep to scale and you'll eventually fall into the sea just south of Menethil Harbor.

With the change to the boat paths and no longer having access from Darkshore to Menethil, cutting through the hills is the fastest way as it avoids mobs that would generally cause frustration to the lowbie leveler. I should only say it's a timer-saver if you can manage the ledge jumping. Our first tries a year+ ago took nearly 20 minutes for three of us to climb the slope. It's a nice payoff for the effort though. Just caution that I believe it's not supposed to be explored and I'm sure some people have been suspended for it.

There is a pond if you head towards the southern wetlands mountains, and it is fishable.

Kommentar von 268064

The Battle of Grim Batol

Grim Batol is, as said in another comment, a remarkable place in WoW Lore. A long time ago the Dragon Queen Alexstrasza was captured by the Demon Soul wielded by Nekros Skullcrusher, a foul Orc Warlock. Deathwing "The Destroyer", Aspect of the Black Dragonflight and known before as Neltharion the Earth-Warder, was on his way to kill her . Rhonin, leader of the Kirin'tor, was appointed to the task to free Alexstrasza from her prison. He needed the aid of the dragon Korialstrasz, mate of Alexstrasza, in his human form Krasus (remember Krasus' Landing in Dalaran?). Korialstrasz tried to contact the other dragon aspects, Malygos, Nozdormu, and Ysera, realizing only with their help could the black dragon be defeated. Their response was not really encouraging and Krasus was afraid he would lose his beloved Dragon Queen. When the final battle at Grim Batol began, Korialstrasz assumed dragon form once more and made haste in order to recapture the Demon Soul from Nekros Skullcrusher. Nekros tried to use the Demon Soul on him but despite its great power, Korialstrasz was able to break free. Weakened, he dropped to the earth where he summoned Rhonin to him and asked him to do this task. The three Dragon Aspects arrived and healed Korialstrasz, then battled Deathwing. The battle took a turn for the worse until Rhonin destroyed the Demon Soul and the Aspects could now attack with their full power. Deathwing was no match for their combined might, and fled. Korialstrasz was reunited with his Queen and, after gathering up her unhatched children, they disappeared off into the night.

Did you know that:
- Rhonin can still be found in Dalaran in the Violet Citadel
- The Dragon Queen and her mate stay in their humanoid form as much as possible, only showing their inner dragon power when desperate
- Deathwing is the father of the well known Onyxia
- Nozdormu is the leader of the Bronze Dragonflight, who are the masters of time and rule the Caverns of Time
- Ysera is Alexstrasza's younger sister
- Grim Batol is one of Blizzard's favorite places and is often discussed in panels. Perhaps they will bring Grim Batol 'back' into the game...

This is the Battle of Grim Batol in a nutshell. A lot of this piece of lore can be found throughout the game. This post is based on such knowledge and the help of Wowhead and Wowwiki for backgrounds of the characters.

Kommentar von 431054

How do I get to the small area behind the spider cave?

Kommentar von Tordhrano

Things to do in Wetlands

For Well Read, read these books:
1. The Battle of Grim Batol.
  Found upstairs in Deepwater Tavern at (10.8, 60.8)
2. The Kaldorei and the Well of Eternity.
  Found upstairs in Deepwater Tavern at (10.4, 60.5)
3. The Old Gods and the Ordering of Azeroth.
  Found on Captain Stoutfist's table in Menethil Keep at (9.8, 57.6)
4. Charge of the Dragonflights.
  Found on a clerk's table in Menethil Keep at (9.9, 56.9)
For To All The Squirrels I've Loved Before, love these critters:
1. Ram
2. Toad
For The Scavenger, fish in a Schooner Wreckage
Buy up to 4 different horses for Mountain o' Mounts at Unger Statforth (requires exalted status with Stormwind)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I, too, found the Dwarven Farmers after visiting the Gnomish airstrip. I also found the strange gate into the mountains behind the farms. Being rather foolhardy, I jumped out into the void, so I can tell you what happens if you do!

I fell for what seemed like forever (probably was about 20 seconds or so). During that time, I could see bits of the mountain geography over my head and in the distance (trees and such). I finally hit something invisible but solid, since I was lying dead in what seemed like thin air. I released my spirit and found myself STILL dead, but lying in the graveyard at Kharanos! I released my spirit again and decided it probably wouldn't be a good idea to try to retrieve my corpse. :)

My guess is that the mysterious gate is actually a gate into Ironforge, much like the gate that is blocked by ice at the Gnomish airstrip.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You can climb the mountain in Angerfang Encampment where it is closest to Whelgar's Excavation Site.
When you get up, climb along the cliff to the left until you reach walkable ground. The you are on the "flatness" that every big mountain area consist of.
From there walk to the northeast and you reach a green valley, in the other end of the valley past the big tree is a road to the farm.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Dragons that you are seeing in the right corner is a quest that you have to do before you get to Onyxia. You have to kill those dragons and they do like somewhere in the range of like 500 damage per hit so you have to be high lvl.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Has anyone tried this using a soulstone?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Directions to the Badlands for Horde players..

There is a tunnel between the Wetlands and Loch Modan. If you follow the road that winds S in the Wetlands, you will eventually reach a tunnel. This tunnel winds around a bit, but keep going and you will make it to Loch Modan. From there ride S down the road, turn SE when you near the bottom, and head for the middle of the S edge of the map. Congratulations, you made it.

For the Horde, this is the easiest way into the Badlands. Loch Modan is a 10-20 zone. Coming in from the Vale will force you to cross the Burning Steppes (50-58) and the Searing Gorge (43-50), which is not fun if you are planning to level in the Badlands.

Extra Credit: If you want to get there faster, strip off your gear at the bank and head for the Wetlands. When you get there, die and rez at the spirit in the middle of the map by the road. From there, head S along the road and into the tunnel. While in the tunnel watch for the location to switch to "Dun Algaz" or "Loch Modan." When this happens, die and rez in Loch Modan. Head S into the Badlands and die again. Rez at the healer and walk to Kargath at the W end.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay, so i was walking around exploring yesterday and came accross Grim Batol, or at least into the entrance anyway?

I found lvl 58 - 60 elite dragonkin there, the same type as in front of Onyxia's Lair. I didn't get too far, but curious whats there? Is it an instance? A nice loot place? Boy would I ever like to know?

Kommentar von Thottbot

The reason the dragon is there is because blizzard needed to do a screenshot of one without going into a big instance, if you look on the back of the World Of Warcraft box there is a dragon in Dun Morough. this is the reason it is there and if you can beat it there is free money so go ahead and beat the crap out of it.

There should also be a giant yeti somewhere on this map :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

What is old ironforge? Can anyone give detailed instructions on how to get to it?

Kommentar von Thottbot

1)First,Old IF is the same as great forge but darker.
2)The dragon on back of case is called nazroth,who is a "dragon" not a "chimera" and spawns every 8 hours in winterspring same place ulrich the 56e bear spawns but dragon is 61e.
3)Alright,the giant yeti in Dun Mourogh is fake,and that was for blizzard test realm for a picture.Since on the game its spelt "Dun Mourogh"
not "Dun Morogh" (which is how it is spelt inside case.
4)I agree with the other comment about dragons 59-62e, but they do have good drops in and it is part of onyxia chain to kill 10 wyrmkins and slay the big dragon
5)It is true about the eye on hill...all my lower chars grind there since they are lvl 9-12 trollz
6)The bottemless fall from the tunnel is cool,if you watch closely area changes from "Ironforge" to "Wetlands" to "Old Ironforge" then to "Burning Steppes".
7)i have found 2 epics in the dragons (After killing hundreds ^^) a nice 2H mace with 221-276 damage and about 60dps =)

Hope something here helps

Kommentar von Thottbot

Location (coordinate) of elite dragons in Dwarf Vilage plz!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is there a flightpath for Horde in Wetlands? Any help is appreciated.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you follow the river above Wetlands, eastbound... when you get to the ocean and go north youl find a nice little dwarven town with huts and farms... its pretty fair size and its kinda cool.

Kommentar von Thottbot

is there anyway to enter Grim Batol? when i lurked around all the red dragons i got byond the last dragonmaw gate to grim batol, but when i arrived the gate was closed. i want to know, if i can enter this old city. if you know a way, plz call it

Kommentar von Thottbot

Someone posted earlier about this, but I'm curious myself of how to get to the lake in the 'dusty area'. If you aren't familiar with it, you can see it when you are coming from Loch Modan into Wetlands through the tunnel. I thought there would be a way through the cave at the bottom, but thats no good, then I tried climbing mountains and stuff with no luck. There's gotta be a way to it and if anyone knows, post an explanation to get there prz.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Have you ever heard of old ironforge?

Someone told me that their was a way to get there, but you are only able to get there in spirit (Dead) he told me how to get there and i tried but couldnt get in. This is what he said, "Make sure you are dead and enter ironforge make sure to go to the right passage where it leads you to the Bank and Auction House and while you are in that passage run along the left wall from end to top and you will find that a glipse of clouds will emerge and that go into it and you will find yourself at a place where it has all been destroyed and it will come up at the screen Old
Ironforge. But i done all what was said but couldnt find a glipse. If anyone has found this place could they please tell me the exact route to go?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Although I don't know if there are any Horde NPCs in Wetlands.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If this is contested territory, why isn't there a horde flight path?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm curious about this as well, but I suppose that Horde just don't get a break in the Wetlands.

Oh well. Besides Hammerall, where's the nearest Horde FP?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Last night I jumped from the tunnel at the Dwarven Farms and I did not die. I didn't use any spells, I am just a lvl 13 rogue gnome. After falling for 20sec or so, my character vanished but I was still alive and moving, I couldn't control my character but while traveling this way I discovered and got experience for everything in a straight line between the tunnel and stone cairn lake in elwynn forest at which time a GM pulled me out.

Kommentar von Thottbot

can horde people be there?

Kommentar von Thottbot

IS there a horde town/city here? and is there a Flying Point there? I need to know ...>!

Kommentar von Thottbot

no horde town, no horde fp, its just contested so we can stalk and kill all the low 20s alliance trying to quest, same with barrens, no alliance towns or fp's out there, they just get to stalk horde

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was exploring Wetlands and I can't seem to get the area of my map filled in that's named "Thelgen Rock." The area name appears above my mini-map when I'm there, but the map just wont fill in. I've tried going through the whole cave, I've tried scaling the cliffs to get to the lake on top, and I've tried finding a way in from halfway through that mountain pass. no such luck.
I hear that a lot of people have this problem and I'm wondering if anyone can give me and the rest of us who can't fill it in a few pointers.
many thanks.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Interesting Lore! Imma share! (from wowwiki)

War of the Three Hammers:
After losing in a three way civil war between themselves, the Bronzebeards, and Dark Irons, Khardros of the Wildhammer clan lead his people north through the barrier gates of Dun Algaz. It was here that they founded their own kingdom within the mountain of Grim Batol.

After years of bitterness, Thaurissan, leader of the Dark Iron clan, launched a double-sided attack from his city in the Redridge Mountains against both Ironforge and Grim Batol in hopes of taking all of Khaz Modan. Thaurissan led his forces against Ironforge while his sorceress wife, Modgud, attacked Grim Batol.

The Bronzebeards were able to push back the Dark Iron assault which had been led by Thaurissan at Ironforge. As Thaurissan withdrew to Redridge, Modgud's forces began to break through the gates of Grim Batol. Modgud then used her sorceress powers to call for the shadows from the earth to attack the Wildhammers within their own fortress. The Wildhammers viciously fought back against the shadows and the Dark Iron forces. Finally, Khardros was able to push through the invading onslaught and slay Modgud.

Leaderless, the remaining Dark Irons began to hasty retreat to Redridge only to be intercepted by the Bronzebeard army which had come from Ironforge to assist Grim Batol. The remaining Dark Iron forces were crushed between the Wildhammer and Bronzebeard armies.

Following the total defeat of Thaurissan, the Wildhammers returned to their home in Grim Batol. What they had found was that the death of Modgud had left an evil taint in their fortress. The Wildhammers found Grim Batol uninhabitable and founded a new home in Aerie Peak.

Aftermath of the Second War:
During the Second War, Grim Batol was the center of all refining operations for the Horde's navy. It was also the main base of the Horde's dragon breeding program, where Alexstrasza the Red was kept captive and forced to produce Red Dragons to be used as mounts for Orc Dragonriders. The Horde used the Demon Soul and Dark Iron chains to control the Red Brood. Grim Batol remained in Orc hands long after the collapse of the Horde and the destruction of the Dark Portal, largely due to the power of their dragons. Eventually, thanks to the efforts of a band of unlikely heroes led by the mage Rhonin, Alexstrasza was freed. The Dragon queen immediately set about incinerating every Orc she could find, utterly destroying the power of the Dragonmaw Clan (in Azeroth) and killing the Orc warrior (ex-warlock / ex-shaman) Nekros Skullcrusher. The ruins of the Orc caravan that tried to escape the fortress can still be seen strewn around the entrance.

Current Status:
Grim Batol is currently being guarded by the Red Dragonflight. Something powerful is suspected of being inside, though whether the red dragons work to keep intruders out or whatever they are guarding in (or both), is unknown. The red wyrm Garshilan leads the fortress' defenses, aided by the young Acridistrasz and the Dragonspawn Baleflame.LoC 73, 74

It is possible, at level 70, to ride past all of the dragons guarding Grim Batol (minus a few stationary ones by one of the gates, but an epic mount can easily outrun them). There is not much at the end, though. It eventually evens out into a cliff overlooking south-eastern Wetlands with a large, dwarven door that is very similar to Ironforge. The door is shut and apparently locked as there is no way to do anything to open or activate it.

In the novel Night of the Dragon, it is revealed that Deathwing, the insane Black Aspect and ancient enemy of Alexstrasza, resides deep inside Grim Batol.

Have fun reading this beast!

Oh and Blizzard stated:

Question: Well Grim Batol become an instance?

Answer: I believe the same question was brought up in one of the developer panels at BlizzCon, unfortunately the answer to this is the same as it�s been in the past. Grim Batol is one of a number of areas we would like to bring into World of Warcraft at some point in the future, but we have to wait until it feels right to do so.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Im a lvl 18 Gnome rogue and I got into the wetlands by jumping of the dam are there other ways to get into the wetlands .
Because the boat to Menethil is now the boat to Stormwind.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Does anyone really care that this place exists? I never see any groups antering this area and no one even bothers asking about it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

yes. i am looking where it is to complete a quest. it is important. where is the information? its in the wetlands somewhere, right?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This zone is labelled on the Wetlands map.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'd make a comment but I don't even know where it is...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The excavation site is crawling with raptors, mostly levels 25-27, with the occasional 29. They spawn reasonanbly quickly, so don't expect an area you clear to stay that way for long.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

so whats your expericnes in this zone> please id like to know..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I had a searing blade drop off a raptor there recently.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

how many like to solo in here ? ive found it quite empty last few days on silver hand server

Kommentar von Allakhazam

black oozes/Ironbeard's Tomb at 47,25
I killed 3 only

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I will more then likely solo this place tonight.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where is this place at?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Edited, Wed Aug 17 16:02:12 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What do I do with Flecked raptor Scales? I have 20 of them.

What does anybody do with them?

RB

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Orcs in the 26 and up range patrol here. It should be straigtforward for level-appropriate characters to pull, as the orcs are spaced widely. Under-level chars may be able to slip through the gaps, if they are lucky or very skillful at it. Or rogues, of course.

It is possible to climb the hills at the southwest end of the encampment valley and drop down onto the ledge of the cave in which the NPC's for "In Search of the Excavation Team" are located, completely bypassing raptors, or escaping angry hordes of orcs. I admit I did this with my mage, but I didn't use a feather fall to do so.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

A camp of level 29 (Elite) Dark Iron guys is here, as is the way in to Raptor Canyon, which has a nice Raptor-filled cave (levels 27-29) and usually plenty of iron and tin.
You may find a Razormaw Matriarch in the cave too!

Further past the cave are the Dragonmaw Gates with level 50 or so dragons....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Um no picture?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lots of indcendite and tin. great for leveling to 125

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm a level 20 Pally on Uther helping out a 25 Mage and a 27 Warrior one night. From what i've been told, anyone mining the Incendicite Ore has to have a mining skill above I think 65 to mine anything out of it...they had a low mining skill...mine was at 100...the two of them were on a quest and needed 6 Incendicite Ores each. Basically I had to mine for them 12 ores. By the time we left I had 16 Incen ore pieces(not including the tin and silver ore sites), my mining skill went up 18 points and was there about an hour. Great place to mine tin and silver. Not sure if the Incen ore is good for anything but the quest...does raise the mining skill though. NOTE: only on a few occasions was I able to mine more than 2 pieces of incen ore...normally I was able to only get 1 at a time. Had a contend with a bunch of leech spiders in while in there around 20-21 range...not too tough if your high enough level.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

id like to hear from the community

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hmm thats kinda lame

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's months past the Burning Crusade release, and yet there's still nothing here.

The only upshot is that as a lv70 BM Hunter, I can run past or take down all the dragonkin guardin the path up here. Got a nice little collection of Worn Dragonscales & Red Dragonscales for my time, too.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is in this Area?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

seems to me like this will come in the future, alextraz or whatever her name is, the aspect of the red dragonflight, is hiding out here i think. i also think it is possible that deathwing is captured inside. i could see it opening when the lvl cap is raised to 70. wowkiki tells u all u neeed to know

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Not much really, just Grim Batol an old dwarven city thats closed just looks like a dirty version of IF. You have to get past all those 62 elite dragons to get there tho.

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