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Paladin PvP-Healing Set 4.

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Season 1 (Arena Points):
Helmet (1,875)
Shoulders (1,500)
Chest (1,875)
Gloves (1,125)
Legs (1,875)

Season 2
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/itemset=708

Kommentar von 51384

Has anyone tried to get the 2 set bonus 2 times?

Like getting 2 items (let's say head and gloves) from Gladiator's Redemption for 35 resillience.

AND 2 items from Gladiator's Aegis (let's say chest and shoulders) for another 35 resillience as set bonus for a total of 70 resillience as set bonus?

the point is this: 4 piece set bonus is kind of useless for a holy pala, or at least +35 res. would be way better ...

Kommentar von pibbz

can confirm that this works, read a patchnote about it a while ago.

Kommentar von 93777

This set is available for honor points and BG marks of honor with the 2.3 patch now on PTR. prices are as follows:

Chest: 14,500 honor and 30 AB marks of honor
Gauntlets: 10,500 honor and 20 AV marks of honor
Helm: 14,500 honor and 30 AV marks of honor
Leggings: 14,500 honor and 30 WSG marks of honor
Shoulders: 11,250 honor and 20 AB marks of honor

Save up and enjoy!

Kommentar von 86693

The price for the whole set is, 64,250 honor and 30 WSG marks, 50 AB marsk, 50 AV marks. Better start saving :)

Kommentar von 38128

Mostly a healing set, if you are a shockadin though, the Aegis (Lammelar) set is better.

Kommentar von Winterstrife

This set will no longer be purchasable in patch 2.4 (when S4 starts). However if you already have the set or the pieces of this set, you'll be able to keep them.

The Merciless Gladiator sets will replace the Gladiator set to be purchasable for honor points. They'll cost the same amount of honor points and marks of honor as the previous Gladiator set.

Kommentar von Cipri

Once Season 4 hits (Expected to be May, or early Jun), this set will probably no longer be available, and the S2 sets will be made available for purchase with marks instead.

Kommentar von 168818

With the arrival of Season 4, Season 1 gear is no longer purchasable with Honor and Marks. However, you can still purchase these from Karynna on the Isle of Quel'Danas using Tier 4 Tokens. Here is the requirement for each piece in the set:

Chestguard: 1 Chestguard of the Fallen Champion
Gloves: 1 Gloves of the Fallen Champion
Headcover: 1 Helm of the Fallen Champion
Legplates: 1 Leggings of the Fallen Champion
Spaulders: 1 Pauldrons of the Fallen Champion

Kommentar von Thottbot

This set is for any paladin who goes into the Holy tree and wants to act as more a healer than a tank. Reply if I'm wrong.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You're pretty much right, and it's pretty much one of the sexiest things I've ever seen. Screw Tier 4, screw Tier 5. This is the real gem.

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But I think it would be better if it has some mp5s to be a Healadin set. OK, you can put some gems to give you mp5s, but it will not be so good.
So I think that this set does not replace tier 4 and/or tier 5. But for PvP is the better set ever. With some spell crit/healing gems, it will turn you into a monster of PvP healing.

Kommentar von Thottbot

PvP combat healers. This is reflected by the amount of resillience - for equivalent gear gained outside of the arena, these stat points would be given elsewhere, usually to something that healing actually benefits from. And no, PvE healers do not need much resillience, if any. They should rarely be getting hit if the tank is doing their job.

For PvE healers, there is much better gear in the 5 mans, and it should be easier to get. While I haven't compared all 5 pieces, I would say that the "Purple Judgement" head, chest, gloves, shoulder and leg pieces would do a much better job when it comes to PvE healing than this set. I already use the head and chest, and they're two of my best pieces of equipment.

However, for pallies that have modelled themselves as a combat healer when PvPing, it is really an awesome set. If you're in your arena team for this reason, you should consider getting the set.

Kommentar von Thottbot

In order to cpmpare the T4 Healer Set and the Arena Healer Set you have to do some basic calculations first. The main "problem" is to translate spellcrit to + heal and mp5. Therefore you have to consider the following terms (for holy Paladin with illumination before Patch 2.1.0):

1 % spellcrit = 21 spellcritrating
= +0,5 % extraheal from
spells and
6 mp5 (for Flash of Light =FoL) or
17 mp5 (for Holy Light =HL)

Also, 80 int gives additional 1 % spellcrit

Arena Healer
+heal 220 (basic)
mp5 0 (basic)
int 125
crit% 5,28% (basic for HL)
7,28% (basic for FoL)

T4 Healer
+ heal 347 (basic)
mp5 19 (basic)
int 145
crit 2,62 % (basic)

including the int- bonus you get an "absolut crit" for the sets of
6,84% for HL
8,84% for FoL for Arena Healer

and 4,43% for T4 Healer

Two Pallys with exactly the same equip (except the 5 setpieces Arena or T4) are spamming healspells, for example:

Arena Healer casts 1200 FoL and 3000 HL

T4 Healer casts 1264 FoL and 3127 HL (because T4 has + 127 Healing compared to Arena)

Calculation of absolut + heal:

Arena set gives 8,84% crit for FoL and 6,84% crit, thats +53,04 Heal at FoL and +102,6 heal for HL ... now you have to add the basic +healing of the Arena Set (+110/220) and you recieve

healing absolut FoL +163
healing absolut HL +322

T4 Healer Set gives 4,43% crit, thats +27,99 heal for FoL and +69,26 healing for HL + basichealing =

healing absolut FoL +203
healing absolut HL +416

Calculation of absolut mp5:

Arena Set has 8,84% crit for FoL, that equals
8,84x 6 mp5 = 53,4 mp5 for FoL-spam
or
6,84x 17 mp5 = 116,26 mp5 for HL-spam

T4 Healer has +19 mp5 Basic + 4,43% crit, that equals = 45,6 mp5 for FoL-spam or = 94,3 mp5 for HL-spam

Result:
Arena Healer has
+163 Healing and 53 Mp5 for FoL
+322 Healing and 116 Mp5 for HL

T4 Healer has
+203 Healing and 45 Mp5 for FoL
+416 Healing and 94 Mp5 for HL

Finally you can say:
The Arena Set has about
+305 Armor
+51 Stam (!)
-20 Int
+146 Resilience
ca. -40 to 80 + Heal (depends on healing FoL/HL)
ca. +10 to 20 Mp5

With the upcomming Patch 2.1.0 the illumination- talent of Holy Paladins will be nerfed :-( You will only regain 50% of the healspell-mana. If this happens, T4 and Arena Healer set will have nearly the same mp5 (+/- 5 mp5). But i`m not going to proof this and calculate all this again :o))

I would prefer the Arena Healing set. In PvE bossfights healers are getting damage too... think about the aura of Lohateb, Bosses with random aggro, Gruul Stone-rain, AOE bosses etc, etc,etc... +51 Stam and 146 Resilience can do a lot to help you survive such a bossfight ! In addition + heal and mp5 of both sets do not differ so much.

But make your own choice ^^

Kommentar von Thottbot

Has anyone bothered to look at the stats for T5?
Armor 6775
Stamina 169
Intellect 151
Spell Critical Hit Rating 127
Durability 540
Mana Regen 29
Spell Healing 461
Score 2154.5

I mean, both of these sets are pretty close to each other. So quit the argument. It looks like you can use this PVP in PVE content. Unless someone wants to counter?...

Kommentar von Thottbot

The S1 Healing Arena gear is roughly equivalent to a full healing set from karazan except you get a ton of resilience.

Now if you start grul's, SCC, etc. then yes I would have to agree that from a strict healing standpoint they are better for pve healing then arena gear is.

Kommentar von Thottbot

With the new 30% damage from healing, do you think a ret paly would benefit from this? I mean the ret set is nice but no resilliance =\

enlighten me

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nah, the bonus is sooo little... with all my healing gear ~1750 healing... i get 750 bonus damage... But i used to have a sp dmg set (all blues... looked like red lawbringer), and it gave me 690 dmg... the spell dmg and ret sets have more sp dmg than these... but maybe throwing in a couple peices of s2 healing gear for off-healing ret pally wouldnt be bad.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i do alot of arena and pve raiding and am using a combination of gladiator gear and kara/t4 gear. really tempted to get loads of the season 3 gear but i lose aload of mana per 5, so difficult choice to get the arena gear and lose that mana per 5. but looking at the calculations earlier on it seems that by getting more spell crit i won't actually be losing that much mana per 5 so more gladiator stuff here i come!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I resently did all the work in finding out the healadin pvp set bonuses and honor costs and came up with the following...

Item Set: Gladiator's Redemption (Ornamented)
Veteran's Ornamented Bracers/Belt/Greaves
Veteran's Band of Salvation
Veteran's Pendant of Salvation
Vindicator's Band of Salvation
Battlemaster's Perseverance

TOTAL PVP SET STATS
Armor: 9108
Stamina: +406
Intellect: +259
Resilience: +288
Spell/Crit: +200
Spell/Heal: +644
Spell/All: +218
Mana/5sec: 16
Sockets: 4 red, 4 yellow, 1 meta
Bonus Stat: -10 sec Hammer of Justice cooldown
Bonus Stat: (Use) Increase Max health by 1750 for 15 sec

TOTAL COST OF PVP SET
188644 Honor(Double check some of the honor costs)
AB - 150 Marks
AV - 50 Marks
WSG - 50 Marks
EotS - 50 Marks

Hope this helps all the healadins out there!

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