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Kommentar von 8356

This spell removes 1 beneficial spell from an opposing player and applies its effects to your character. Only 1 spell can be stolen at a time.

Kommentar von 7075

Does the "one at a time" mean that I can just keep on stealing buffs until I run out of mana? In all honesty though, this is not that great of a spell. Costs a lot of mana, and the effect you steal only lasts 2 minutes. To me it looks like a rip off of dispell magic (dispell magic off enemies), but it costs way more mana and gives you a bit of a edge for 2 minutes.

2/5 rating for usefullness

Kommentar von Sware

For people thinking this costs too much mana, to test it on your own mage just cast blink because blink uses 28% of base mana which isn't very much at all.

Kommentar von 4090

The main complaint about this spell is that it steals a *random* buff. Most people who expect to fight mages will be stacking themselves with plenty of buffs, including some useless ones like water breathing. If someone has 8 buffs on him/her, then it will take on average 4 casts to steal the buff you want - meaning 116% of base mana and a cast time of 4.5 seconds..According to the estimate by ansepheth of 600 mana per cast, four casts is 2400 - a very significant amount of mana and 6 seconds (including the global cooldown) spent doing nothing but trying to steal the right buff.

Kommentar von 9766

They intended the % mana cost originally because of Blink. They wanted Blink to scale with the user since it’s a must use utility spell that any lvl 20-60 would use no matter what. They thought it would be unfair for a lvl 60 mage to spend as much mana as a lvl 20.

Why spell stealing has %base ... I have no idea ... they can’t use the original excuse so... why? The spell doesn’t scale at all since every mage has the basic base stats without gear/talents/pots.

Kommentar von 19888

People should list all the neat buffs they can steal off NPCs. In Sethekk Halls, the Shamans and other casters after the first boss have a 150 +dmg buff stealable, and the shield that the final boss puts up is stealable as well! Both rule, obviously. :P

Kommentar von Mdj71

The 295 dmg buff is stolen from some mobs in Botanica, and its awesome :)

Unfortunately i cant remeber the name.

Kommentar von 19592

I was just wondering and it will be helping others to know if it's possible to steal a pala's bubble?

Was a group arguement and just wanted to know.
Thanks.

Kommentar von 5747

It sounds illogical, but is it possible the 'steal' a rogues stealth? or something like a druids cat form? I doubt either will work but I'm not a mage and I can't test it.

Kommentar von Merowlin

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=36326

- Merowlin

Kommentar von 41328

This spell has many uses for pve you can steal Renew or regenaration from mobs . And in Pvp stealing earth shield or blessing of freedom is definitely helpful .

Kommentar von 25633

Can't you just use Detect Magic on targets in PvE before pull? 35 mana aint that much..

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=2855

Correct me if I'm wrong

Kommentar von 22954

WoWWiki has some good info about mobs to use this on:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Spellsteal

Kommentar von 624

OK... something I've been wondering for a while... "Steals a beneficial magic effect from the target." does this include the likes of a Warlocks Unending Breath or Detect Invisibility or any other such spells, and where multiple buffs are involved how does it determine WHICH buff is stolen? Here's hoping someone knows :P

Kommentar von 67583

Mage PvP video i m proud to be a 3 min mage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jttvxqdoRg

Kommentar von 73751

can this be stolen in a duel?
if a mage friend and i (affliction lock) are about to 2-man a 5-man elite, can we duel, have him steal fel armor, then yield, and then i rebuff and pull the mob?

also, do you get the improvements from talents?
will a mage get 130 spell damage from my fel armor instead of 100?

Kommentar von 54981

Spellsteal is indeed able to steal a pally bubble if timed perfectly. Proof?

http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r17/girzwald/?action=view&current=pallybubblesteal.jpg

Kommentar von 52930

Using spellsteal on a polymorphed target will not break the effect.

Kommentar von Wandu

I think it's a fake picture as the mage who spell stealed has the same Forbearance debuff as the Paladin. Debuffs can't be stolen as a Mage spellstealing Priests Power Word: Shield isn't afflicted with the Weakened Soul debuff.

Also.. how come you steal a spell from someone who's immune to spells ;>

Kommentar von Xsear

o,o
Can you steal mounts? rofl

Kommentar von 37463

What spell mechanics is this affected by if anything. Is it affected by spell hit rating or dispel resist mechanics like those from the paladin "Stoicism" or priest "Pain Suppression"? Does it ever fail in any way?

Kommentar von jeppe13

there is a comic where a mage steals a guys netherdrake XD

Kommentar von 6989

It's supposed to scale with level, not gear. Imagine that Blink would be more expensive the better gear you got. So you actually would get penalized for improving your gear. This wouldn't make much sense, so instead it costs a procentage of your base mana, ie, the mana you have with the gear excluded.

Kommentar von 88528

deathbyhornet thats a bug, and will be fixed very soon :)

Kommentar von keiners

If you want a laugh, steal Slow Fall just as a mage jumps off a cliff :D

Kommentar von 121229

You can spellsteal the shapeshift form from the mobs in Shadow Labs, before the Grandmaster Vorpil. Very funny :D

Kommentar von 123182

as a mage i of course use armor spells such as mage armor,ice armor, and molten armor, bu i was wondering.... what if i used spellsteal on another mage when i have molten armor on or something, would i get mage armor or something from the other mage?

Kommentar von 125904

boy now i wish my mage would bug and become level seventy with all the moves.. and have PvP mounts lol.

Kommentar von Zaronto

You can steal Arcane Haste from Wave-Casters in The Arc

This is the most useful buff I've found stealable off an NPC so far.

Kommentar von Simayi

Combustion and Nature's Swiftness cannot be spellstolen. Which is odd, when Presence of Mind and Arcane Power can be spellstolen.

Kommentar von 93626

You can steal a spell while you are NOT facing the target in 2.4.

I definitely remember that one MUST face the target in 2.1 when I was tanking Maulgar.

Who's got the idea when did the change happen?

Kommentar von Battleguard

It hasn't been mentioned before and I think it's important: stealing a buff with charges such as Water Shield will reset the number of charges to the maximum. In other words: if you steal it from a shaman who has only one charge left, you still get a buff with 3. Also tested with Inner Fire.

Kommentar von 149719

With this spell is heal over time stealable? for example Rejuvenation

Kommentar von Zeshar

Be warned: If this spell is reflected by a warrior, you will lose one of your own buffs.

Fortunately, the warrior does not gain the buff you lost. Though I doubt you'll lose any sleep over a warrior buffed with Arcane Intellect.

Kommentar von 56773

You can steal the Fel Armour off the Dawnblade Summoners on Quel'Danas ... gives a nice +220 spell damage, and makes your bandages (or any healing effect) tick for quite a bit more. I love stealing it off them and then nailing them with a fel armoured/Pom/Trinket/AP/Pyro ... if it crits, it's 99% of the time a 1 shotter ;-)

Kommentar von geoffster

Mana cost reduced to 20% in 2.4

Kommentar von 83104

Is it Possible to Steal Slow fall from another mage? So they fall down and get an instant kill.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Enjoy your power infusion/pain suppression.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone who think the mana cost is uppsetting is a dumbass. The mana cost for blink is 28%! and that have never stopped a mage from blinking. Mages blink all the time, if so only to get first to capture a base in AB. I dont think that any mage is thinking -hm, should i blink now or just frost nova and run to save mana? I belive this spell will be used a lot, really great spell as it both give you a new buff and remove a buff from another player. Priest will get a hell when thei PW:F and PW:S gets stealed, and if they have the shadow protection buff on themself... so much worse for them :) Any mage think 3 blink would wipe out he's mana pool?

Kommentar von Thottbot

In shadow labs some mobs turn into a green dog. You can steal this form. It's useless but it looks cool :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I dont find this post really good actually.
All you have done here is writing how you would duel a mage that only uses basic spells.

Now, you have to remember that a mage have
invisibility (wich is rather cool -_-')
and counterspell (you cant cast that spell in 10sec, and silenced for 4sec )
Then you dont have your 5sec into combat, but a 9 sec into combat since youre silenced.
and that gives a arc\fire mage time to pop trinket and cd's. woosh fireball on 3,3k if it crits.
2,2k non crit. and a insta pyro wich crits for 4,5k and noncrit 2,5k (and remember the ignite whom is ~1000 over 4sec (~500 every 2 sec for 4 sec)
and this is for each crit. so if both crits. its 2000dmg over 4sec, and ooh, a fireblast!

this can just continue.

Anyhow, if you steal PW:F, it wouldnt be to gain HP, but taking 700+ hp from you.

And before you start whining about 4,5k pyro crits is not possible or something.
I'm 68 and did a 4590 crit last night (on a level 67 mob)

pewpew, my point of view.

Kommentar von Thottbot

pvp normally isnt one on one anyway... besides the once in awhile ganking but come on.. most of your pvp is going to be in a battleground or world pvp area.. so your little what if story line is crap... go ahead and use up 15 seconds to stop a mages spell steal and get pwned by the number of players around you....

also i dont know about the rest of the mages on here but im not a front line fighter... i do much better sitting at max range assisting the melee classes dealing out huge dps and working crowd control.. so chances are you will never see the spell steal coming anyway...

Kommentar von Thottbot

The important point is that the target loses the buff; the fact that the mage gets a two minute buff is really beside the point. Mages can now dispel PW:S, and more importantly, Nature's Swiftness, Fel Domination... may not help the Mage, but now the other player can't use it, and the Mage has that much more time to Counterspell.

Putting a Mage at a mana disadvantage isn't that easy, either. Mana jewels, Evocation. Can Innervate be spellstolen? Add that to the list then.

Presence of Mind would appear to be a Magic buff, as well...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does a grounding totem stop spellsteal?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Most of the pulls in the first section of botanica have some sort of priest blood elf called "Bloodward Mender" mob in them. Almost imediately these mobs cast, "Holy Fury" on themselves which is a +295(or so) spell damage buff. These mobs are usually the targets for first sheeps so you just sheep them and then steal their wonderful +295 spell damage buff from them for 2 mins and pull aggro off your tank you found in the LFG interface. No really, with only around +550 to 600 spelldamage unbuffed, with a trinket I was able to push my spelldamage to over +1000. Too bad i'm just a plain old fire mage and didn't have arcane power or I could of really seen some big numbers.

Some other fun things I've stolen is a Fire shield buff from the astromages in Mechanar that deals fire damage to everything hostile around you. (looks like evocation just red) Can break sheeps and stuff but really your just stealing it to make it not hit your party, not to add to your dps.

In Arcratraz there's a draeni mob near the end who casts a +50% stats buff on himself to attempt to lengthen the fight, well guess what! 15k MANA PLZ, too bad this is a very short buff and only lasts about 20-30 seconds.

Overall this spell kinda eats up your mana, but it's nice in the right situations and can save your priest a lot of mana, or the party a lot of time. Although I was very disapointed when I found out I can't steal shadowform from priests, what a bummer.
It's very nice for pvp because of the fact you can steal so many spells that can either seriously gimp an enemy or help you out. Having trouble downing that large tauren warrior with his own healer? Steal his power shield/renew/regrowth/rejuv buffs off him and watch him fall. Silly undead mage cast fire ward on himself and you were just about to instant pyroblast him? No fear! Spellsteal and cast away.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This board should be filled with MAGES sharing their experience using this spell and helping other who are less experienced with it. But it seems to have turned into a pissing contest about who can beat up who.

Something I do know for a fact is that Scorpella is wrong about not being able to steal an armor spell because of the "one at a time rule". I've had my Molted Armor up and still stolen Ice Armor from another mage. So that rule doesn't apply and we can take your fel armor without losing our own armor spell. I don't do a lot of PVPing, so my main focus is the best way of using this in instances. Like the trick someone mentioned in Botanica were you can raise your mana by 50% even if only for a half minute.

Are there any other tips from mages who have practiced with this spell? I know it can be a powerful tool but I think we need some advice on it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

a clever mage made a video showing the power of spellsteal prior to the nerf.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2957347907101235447&hl;=en/

Kommentar von Thottbot

I had a mage steal me Avenging Wrath(increase dmg 30%) once...... not pretty when he cast firebolt or whatever and i can't use my bubble :( Avenging Wrath causes Forbarence for 1 min.

Kommentar von Thottbot

in duels u can use polymorph and spell steal the opponent w/o breaking sheep! =O pretty useful, and the mana is not that bad, espcially when ur going to steal water shield or any clearcasting state buff =)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Stole a Rejuvenation from a Druid right when he ran out of mana. Boy, was he pissed.

Kommentar von Thottbot

My question is...can you Spell Steal a Stolen spell off another mage?
Imagine the fun you could have! Have a mage of the opposing faction fly really high with you and SpellSteal one Slowfall off each other all the way down! I guess the winner would be the person who has it before they go splat....

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wow, all I hear is "Omg this shiz is OP". Er yeah I've gotten my bloody genitals purged by shammies, dispelled by priests and devoured by felhunters for 69 levels. Oh yeah, not to mention getting my ass stormstriked to last tuesday, and fear bombed. This people, is priest and druid bane. Fun to spam this crap on resto shammies - Earth shield BWUHAHAHA I R IMPERVIOUS TO YOR WINDFURY!11 Your QQ session starts...NOW.

Kommentar von Thottbot

What would happen if a warrior cast Spell Reflect, then a Mage tried to Spellsteal a buff off of them?

Would one of the Mage's spells be given to the warrior?

Or, nothing?

<<>>

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok SPELLSTEAL VS SPELL REFLECT. Warrior uses Spell Reflect, Mage casts Spellsteal, Warrior gains one of Mage's buffs. So basically, it acts as if the Warrior cast Spellsteal. Only purpose of this would be to protect your own buffs, and waste a bit of the mage's mana...I mean warriors with Intellect...C'mon...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Didn't see this asked anywhere yet; can two or more stolen buffs be active at the same time?

Kommentar von Thottbot

The place i found this spell especially useful was in Kara.

Moroes, depending on who he has with him, gets a buff which increases his damage by about 250 loved stealing it to take some pressure off the tank and OT.

Kommentar von Thottbot

70 mage here.

In a nutshell this spell is for players who can think fast and make quick decisions in when to use it. In the heat of pvp combat your enemy is'nt going to give you time to think if you wanna steal his buff or not.

People compare blink to this in mana saying Blink costs alot to cast but mages don't complain.

Mages don't complain because blink is something that can keep a mage from dieing, spellsteal is'nt going to do that.

When a warrior is hacking you to pieces blinking away can save you from DEATH.

Blink is highly effective spell and well worth the cost to cast.

Spellsteal is only worth casting in situations which you KNOW it will absolutly benefit you and perhaps hurt your enemy. 2 minutes is all you have with it, so you need to know that in 2 minutes it can be used. Most cases the enemy can just rebuff themself...so just taking it for the sake of taking it is not always going to be effective.

This spell has more fun uses...sometimes you see a creature or something with a interesting buff. Can be fun to steal it if your not really worried about making life or death decisions.

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