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Kommentar von raventears

This is a nice enchant for something that can use the intellect bonus while costing less than the +30 spell damage enchant. For something that is a nice epic and you will use for a long time, maybe another enchant would be better for it.

Kommentar von 72130

Kaitsia, that would be false.
+30 int cannot be enchanted on a twink's weapon, so there is still a reason to get this.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You have to get Reputation with the Thorium Brotherhood in Northern Searing Gorge to buy this formula. I think you have to have honored or revered.

Kommentar von Thottbot

1 stam=10 hp

1 int=15 mana

22x15=330

There ya go. :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

you get the formula as you reach revered reputation with the brotherhood.

just hand in darkiron ore, cores from mc or blood of the mountain. see http://www.wowwiki.com/Thorium_Brotherhood
for more information

it took me about 2400darkiron ore-

van
eu-aegwynn

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just got this (Spec, Sylvanas EU). You need to be revered to get it. You get revered by turning in a huge amount of dark iron, or a smaller amount of core leather, fiery/lava core. Basically, you need your guild to back up you to get this.

It took me about 3 weeks of MC to get from honored to revered, but during that time I got all core leather and 70% of the lava/fiery core. So unless you got a guild doing MC behind and ready to support you, don't bother with this forumla. Guess "anyone" could farm BRD for dark iron, but I see no sane person doing that. :)

About pricing, the people that object to a price like 60g (excluding reagents) have no clue what it takes to get this forumla. Most likely they don't got their end-game gear to enchant this on either (and doing this on a blue staff is kinda crazy unless you got much more gold than you know what to do with).

Personally I will be asking non-guild members to bring me 20-30% more than the required reagents, so I can do it for free to more guildies.

Getting from honored to revered can be done with:

160 core leather (get 150 rep for every 2)
60 fiery/lava core (get 200 rep for every 1)
2400 dark iron (this one I can't verify as I didn't turn any in myself, only from what I've read)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just got this today, on Frostwhisper (EU). No guild help, no donations, just me. I started about three weeks ago and dropped 300 tailoring for mining, to help speed up the process going from honored to revered. I have turned in dark iron ore and some blood of the mountain. I think maybe 10 +/- botm, so that's about 2000 rep there. 10000 hence, is from dark iron, which means about 2000 ores. I may have mined about 200 of those myself and bought the rest, about 1800. I think I have spent about 1000g on botm and dio, total.

Just saying its absolutely possible without other people helping. 1000g might seem alot to some, but as I "worked" at the same time as I did this, I dont see my gold being lowered much. I'm a mage btw, and the last 110 dark iron ores were delivered solo. That took two invisibility potions and some patience ^^.

Yay! Now, all I have to do is get something to enchant it on... Did on glowing brightwood atm, as its the best I have, but hope for something better to drop soon :)

Short on the price discussion then; The only other crafts that can be used for "comparison" are some of the tailoring/leather from honored with Timbermaw and the plate crafts from revered with TB. All others, transmutes, whatever are void in the discussion. Isn't it strange that only those with "gib easy craft" are complaining about prices?

One guy, the other day, who asked me about +15 agi price, reacted as many do "What I have mats, why not free?". I told him camly that there were alot of work behind this and not just anyone have this enchant. If I did it for free, then that's the same thing as him being an enchanter at lvl 290+ with an arcanite rod and having killed 2600 or so furbs. And you know what; he isn't. You know what they guy said? "I would never get a fromula/craft that someone didnt give to me.". And that's a pattern. "What aren't others work and class choices for free?"

If it's 20g or 80g + mats though, is hardly worth discussing. The one who does it for 80g might sell or he might not. If he doesn't, it's not like he will curse the ones not buying from him. He will simply lower the price. There is alot of cursing the other way though... I guarantee you that.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I don't think that everyone understand what the costs of beeing an enchanter is. You usually start at lvl 10-15, since you start with instances and greens/blues drop. Those greens you get by greedrolling, an enchanter disenchants to get mats to skillup, others sell them for money, this continues uptil lvl 60 and even in endgame instances. Yes you need to disenchant some epics to get the +15 fire resistance enchant.

Beeing an enchanter is very expencive, not only mats but allso recipies..
I'm going to buy this +22 int when I've aquired the materials. And I'm gonna pay what he asks. It be 1c or 100g.

Not just for farming the rep, but allso for farming the skill.

Kommentar von Thottbot

When I sell an enchant, I'm not selling the 5 seconds it takes me to do the enchant - I'm recapturing a percentage of the investment it took me to get the ability to do the enchant. When you level your enchanting, it actually sets back your character's finances twice. Here's why:

A non enchanting character enters a dungeon, collects greens, blues and higher, comes back and sells what they don't want. They earn money. They pay their repair bill. They go it again, this time with more money.

A character that enchants enters a dungeon, collects greens, blues and higher, and then converts them into dusts & shards. Low level enchants don't sell for the cost of your repair bill, because higher level chars that have money don't want them, and lower level chars would rather spend their money on better items than enchants. So you end up giving away enchants, or repeatedly doing them on yourself. Then you scrounge to pay your repair bill and you have less money than you started with.

If you buy the mats to level your enchanting skill in the AH, after you hit level 150ish, you're looking at around 1g per level to perform those enchants. Somewhere after 225, the price gets to around 2-5g. Pass 250, start scrounging, because you're staring down 10g in mats for 251. Then recipies that will actually level you become a serious issue. Fiery costs you 20-40g for the recipie, and that might get you to 280...and now you're looking at 20-30g to cast it one time. Then people expect you to sell the whole shebang for 25g. :S So you do some speculating in the AH and get some mats cheap enough to earn a few Gs here & there. You spend it all on more mats.

Finally after 4 months of your guild farming rep for you, you get an enchant that toons with money actually want, and people expect you to give it away for the "cost of mats."

Huh.

People that quest with me and people in my guild, get enchants for cost, because they helped me get where I am. I can count on them. People that bring me mats and want to pay me a measley 10g for my time...

Two for me, none for you.

So /cry over my friend's +22 int on their alt's green. It's my enchant; my friends & I earned it. We'd rather twink our toons with it than sell it for a 10g margin. Level 60 comes fast when you're rolling with twink gear. Willingly share the burdon with us by offering a fair price for the service, and you can have it too :D

Just like IRL,
Gold <=> Time

Kommentar von Thottbot

I don't know what everyone is sniping about, ridiculous fees for enchanting is just stupid. I am a 300 enchanter on both my priest and warlock. Yes, I dropped a small fortune getting them both to 300. But when you choose enchanting as a profession, you are choosing it because it should be something you want. Not something to gouge people for later. I have an extremely rare aq40 enchant for +15 agi to gloves. In the beginning I was asking mats and 20g and people were giving me more than that as a tip. After a few of those I felt bad and just started asking for mats and optional tip, regardless of the enchant. You will find that people will tip you for your time if you don't make such steep demands. Some guy even dropped me 50g for a high level enchant without me even asking. I enchant for people because I like to help them out, people who pick it up to rob others are just not worth the time!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Good spoken! I was a enchanter earlier and it is very funny just to make people happy, It oftenly gets you a "backup life" when entering hardcore guilds or stuff like that...Also it isnt worth it to sell them for crazy prices! It most oftenly gets ya blacklisted instead!

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's all about Supply and Demand, that's Economics at it's finest. If they want what your selling they will pay for it. Even if you asking 5gold/+mats or 75g/+mats. You will recoup, what you've spent on Enchanting over time. Seems like some people want to recoup their "loses" as soon as possible.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I recently had my staff enchanted on the AKAMA server and this guy named SILVERSTORM told me he would do it for 10g. We meet up in IF he takes my mats and my 10g and then tells me to place staff in slot...I place staff in slot then I see the green writting that states "this weapon will get Mighty Intellect" or something like that. Next thing I know he tells me he wants 20g and never agreed to 10g, and extorts me for the money by pressuring me and alluding to the fact that I will lose my mats and money if I don't. Be weary of enchanters who do bad business.

Especially watch out for: SILVERSTORM on AKAMA he is an extortionist!

Kommentar von Thottbot

everyone knows u dont make money as a enchanter (or should) in ur guild u have 1-3 enchanters depending on if ur main enchanters online often enough then the whole guild helps them faction grind to get the enchants u will never make money off the enchants as people get them free from guild members as they helped em get the plans. now every person in the guild should make a lvl 5 ALT that know the enchanting skill and can d/e all the greens they dont need or cant sell by doing this they will get there own mats ( except the required shard which u get in instances from d/e blue items and rolling on the shard) by doing this everyones happy gets there mats and there enchants cheap and easily ( ur main enchanters should be the people who r not going to leave the guild GM or officers)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Whats enchant would be better for a warlock 60 with the grand marshal staff out of the +30 Spell dmg(250g)or +22 int(70g)?

I have the money for +30spell damage but not sure if its worth that much

Please replie with opinions!

Ty Scorin

Kommentar von Thottbot

So i worked my way to reveared, and now on my 3rd trip to the bar in BRD, i still cannot find the guy you talk to to buy the enchant for +22 int. I talked to the gnome barkeeper guy, and the guy in back room, no one has the enchant for sale. what am i doing wrong...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hi, i'm an enchanter, 300/300 lvl 45 drood taking things slowly (my last toon, i want to close azeroth in a nice way). Up to the furbolgs for the agi's now and seriously thinking of grabbing + 22 int on my way to lvl 80, it's so nice to have them all you know.

On my realm there are severall enchanters who can do it 'all'. +15 agi on gloves, +22 int ... you name it.

But the rare recipe's are divided in 2 groups. The first group takes extreme hard work, lots of gold and mainly are solo projects added with some help of the guild - in terms of mats. + 22 int is a very good example. You will bleed lots and lots of gold for the fee, which is entirely right. You will have to respect this no matter what.

The second group of recipees is made up from the rare drops. If you are the guild's enchanter and a rare recipe drops in the raid, you'll get it for free (or DKP) and thats it. You have a cool guild, making progress, this weird recipe drops and so be it. You where NOT doing the raid for the recipe, it's the other way round. No one asks freeking amounts of gold for the drop recipees , its more ore less a 'pfff i have it, do you want it ? bwaah here it is and thx for the tip, i told you it was for free !' Log out and switch to your main or alt and enjoy the rest of the evening remebering how good you felt when it dropped and how good life is, grab another beer or what ever.

My problem is, the + 22 int is out there and i want it so badly i know i will get into trouble. No one runs MC anymore these days, and tbc offers enchants way better than this which is still, as you all know, the best pre 35 enchant there is.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is how much it will cost me to reach revered:
(I already have 500/3000 neutral rep)

Friendly: (+15str)
75rep Favor Amongst the Brotherhood, Dark Iron Ore (R)
Dark Iron Ore x10
500/3000 = need 2500/75= 33x10
= 330x Dark Iron Ore (*0.2g) = 66g

Honored: (+20 spirit)
25rep Gaining Acceptance (R)
Dark Iron Residue x4
0/6000 = need 6000/25= 240x4
= 960x Dark Iron Residue (*0.02g) = 19g

Revered: (+22int)
75rep Favor Amongst the Brotherhood, Dark Iron Ore (R)
Dark Iron Ore x10
0/12000 = need 12000/75
= 1600x Dark Iron Ore (*0.2g) = 320g

Thats a total of 405g for +22int enchanting formula...and thats alot. Its this, or investing very much time.

Holy Crap!

...is it worth it?

Kommentar von Thottbot

If any1 has this enchant, /w me
tranquillize or icetwink!
ty very much
world is Bloodhoof EU!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I hate to stir the pond but getting faction to be able to buy this enchant is either very time consuming or very expensive. If you have to buy the stuff to get the faction it will cost approx 3000G on Doomhammer.

So good luck on either path you choose if you are an enchanter

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got Benediction a few days ago, and I am still wondering whether to put +22 intellect, or +55 healing power on it.

+55 Healing power would increase the efficiency of my Flash Heal by 6-8%, and my Renew by more or less the same (read that on some forums at least).

+22 intellect is 330 mana, which is not even enough to cast one Flash Heal, so I'm still wondering.

Might end up with +20 spirit :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

id go for +damage/healing if u do alot of instance, but +itellect if u solo alot of stuff...i guess, still hard to tell

Kommentar von Allakhazam

+369 mana if you are a shaman....16.8 mana per int

Cant wait for jin'do

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This really isn't a bad enchant to use on Illusionary Rod and keep not only until lvl 60 but until something beter drops. If your after weapons for mana than +37 int is really hard to beat. And for everyone saying it's easy to get better or just buy an epic, not everyone buys gold or has time to sit farming mobs for 8 hours a day to get better.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If I get Illusionary Rod or something to that extent, I'm saving my money for this enchant. And I know all you guys are saying ILLUSIONARY ROD? THAT'S NEWB! but, it's also one of the best staves at 40-50 level, and I know a priest that's still using it at 60 because he hasn't bothered getting or buying anything better. So why shouldn't it deserve the best? and even if I don't get the money for this enchant, it's getting +9 intellect at the VERY LEAST.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Finaly got my will of Arlokk today and I put it on this bad boy, INSANE stats now, best druid staff in the game imo

Kommentar von Allakhazam

im thinking about putting it on my staff of jordan.

might be a waste of money, but even so.

what kind of glow does it have?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ive got that on my 29 twink dr00d on Handlicher Meuteverprügler its really nice in PvP :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

im actually debating putting this with its .37 to crit on my ironbark staff instead of the spellpower enchant

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/sexy, but look at the mat requirements!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have the mats on cenarion circle... whisper sniffer

Kommentar von Allakhazam

PST me on Azjol-Nerub server if you need this +22 intellect.

I also know +15 agility to Weapon and all the usual enchantments such as Crusader, Icy Chill, etc

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where do you get this recipe?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can this echant be put on a one handed weapon IE Azuresong?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok SoD dropped for me tonight. I am a warlock, so I should get Spellpower +30 enchant right? or should I get this? Spellpower is so damn expensive.. well this is as well.. AARCH I am poor, somebody give me 100 g ( I just spent all my money on Arcanite Dragonling and an epic cloak (the one with + 9 fire +9 shadow and 10 stam and +1 crit))

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have that on my mage's Glowing Brightwood Staff. Very nice.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

wha lvl do u have to b to do it?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have this enchant on Stormscale (Horde). Look me up and bring the mats and I'll take care of you.

Katiya

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Thats the going price for this Enchant on my server.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what kind of glow does it have, and is it good for a mage to put it on a Glowing Brightwood staff or shall I do +30 spell dmg?

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