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Kommentar von peeweesweden

I wonder what posible use this can have. In order to have any efffect, you'll need at least 4 combo points, and to get those before being able to stun an opponent for 5-6 seconds before turning to another target really seems useless.

Or am I missing something?

Kommentar von Windwalk

There are several ways to use this spell. The first thing that you need to see is that it simply doesn't do poor damage. On my decently geared 62 druid, I get 1k+ crits on cloth. The other incredible part of the spell is that DOTs continue ticking without breaking it.

This allows you to load up pounce - mangle - rake - moonfire - (insect swarm?) and THEN maim. The damage of maim combined with the DOTs ticking can finish your enemy off very quickly with minimal damage to you.

The other use of this spell as a druid is to use it to transition to another form. Maim + root - heal will be very viable.

Kommentar von 18784

this is a GREAT transition move, kind of like bash for bearform. plenty of time for a heal or two and time to shapeshift again.

Kommentar von 3465

If you can manage it as a lot of rogues do, in pvp, a 5 pt mangle, deselect target and restealth...pounce all over again. (This is really dependant on how fast you get out of combat in your server)

Kommentar von 6780

Not your damaging finisher. Bite and rip are for that. This has 3 uses
1. Spell interuption
2. "stun" for a shift heal
3. limited stun lock (no KS like rogues but we aren't rogues).

Kommentar von 21328

Is it possible to stay in cat form, get out of combat and restealth on the duration of the 6sec stun?

Kommentar von 6533

In PvE yes it takes ~10 seconds to get out of combat, but in PvP it only takes 5 seconds of none direct(?) damage towards the target to get you out of combat. Effectivly you could get a 5 combo point Maim up wait behind the target for 5 secs, stealth, wait for GCD (1.5secs?) and pounce, rince and repeat. Hopefully that's correct because it would be amazing in theory.

Kommentar von 38374

It is indeed possible to drop combat and restealth in PvP encounters. you don't even need a max amount of combo points.

For Feral Druids:

Just Pounce->Mangle-> Shred(if OoC)-> Maim and drop your target and start running.

You will leave combat around the time they are getting out of maim.

Restealth and repeat as much as possible.

Kommentar von 5883

Just to clarify what a lot of people seem to be confused by:

Stun: Target cannot move or perform any action, and continues to take damage for the duration of the effect.

Incapacitate: Target cannot move or perform any action, but any damage taken will revive the target.

Maim is not a stun. If you don't like the word "Incapacitate", call it a gouge instead, because it's exactly the same effect.

Kommentar von EvilElpay

Scroll up, it says stun.

Kommentar von 6736

With the Season 3 Arena feral gloves (not yet on wowhead), Maim can interrupt spell casting and prevent any spell from that school from being cast for 3 seconds.

Kommentar von 107318

I really think maim should be changed to be just like kidney shot in that you can do direct dmg during it without breaking.

Kommentar von 165481

Can this thing crit?

Kommentar von 145736

yes it can, like ferocious bite can. and, i believe, every melee attack that deals immediate damage can crit. for example, rake can crit, but shred can't.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I don't see why we DONT have this skill. Catform is already the free-est HK in the flippin game.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Druid gouge FTW

Kommentar von Thottbot

As the poster prievious to me has stated, this is, effectively, the druid gouge, but it COSTS combo points, rather than giving them. So it's effectively the druid gouge and the druid cheap-shot, with the ill-effects of both (damage revives, costs combo points). Would make a welcome edition to the druid repitore.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Grats druid, you need it.

Greetings from a Warrior/rogue.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just got this, and I decided to Macro it to Pounce because both abilities "stun" (I know Maim is incomp).

Basically, it uses Pounce when stealthed and Maim when unstealthed. It's perfect.

/cast Pounce; Maim

ENJOI!

Kommentar von Thottbot

He was probably thinking of cat form in PvP..

Kommentar von Thottbot

I am glad for this ability! This finally allows druids to spell interrupt! how many times i was trying to kill a priest or shammy that was healing faster than i could deal damage... (ok i did not have a great gear, but still!)

Croc.

Kommentar von Thottbot

yes i was talking about in pvp, in pve and grooups cat form is ok but its way to easy for other classes to kill you have to jump out to heal every couple sec

Kommentar von Thottbot

This along with blood frenzy is a deadly combo, I have 30+ percent chance to crit and add combo points like crazy. Adding two combo points with every special move crit ensures that the target will stay stunned for longer. Incredibly useful talent. Even if you only have one point on them, its very useful to stop spellcasting.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Some cool killing tactic

This requires the Omen of Clarity talent + Mangle.

Tigers Fury ---wait for 90-100 energy---> Pounce -->Mangle--->Shred

If Omen of Clarity doesn't proc you have a broken stunlock, but after 2 or so seconds you can maim / ferocious bite. If it DOES proc, it goes like this:

Tigers Fury ---wait for 90-100 energy---> Pounce -->Mangle--->Shred--->(Instant)Maim--->Tigers Fury--->Shred.

On my 63 Druid (1.4k AP) I killed a 65 Hunter before he could do anything with using this combination... Everything critted Ofc.

Druids can stunlock! GG!

edit: Oh and also, if it's a plate wearer, you'd want to:

pounce --> mangle --> rake--->maim ---> root----> nuke at distance with starfire ---> go bear and feral charge -> etc

Kommentar von Thottbot

The thing about that is most rogues use gouge to get behind or away from something so if you were a druid you would have to claw rake ext in order to do this cuase it uses cps but rogues type gives you cps.

Kommentar von Thottbot

IM lvl 62 but I cant learn maim and other skills at level 62........damn ! ?

Kommentar von Thottbot

6 secs I belive is not enough time to restealth and Ravage.
But since damage revives the target I ussally Pounce Mangle rip and rake gives me around 4-5 depending where u spec and i jus u this and the bleed damage still goes without Reviving the but 6 secs is enought time to gain enough energy to do another Shred which can be deadly to clothys or people with low health.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I wish someone would comment on maim's damage... is it still worth getting Feral Aggression?

Kommentar von Thottbot

well, shammy arnt OP, cuz the GOOD way to kill them is to stun/inc him and kill hes totems because totems cost alot but alot of mana.

Kommentar von Thottbot

love this ability, killing warlocks with this become so much easier, and also soloying elites

i was able to solo both elite naga quests in zangamarsh with this ability, and i could never solo them on any other toons i have, DRUIDS OWN!

Kommentar von Thottbot

WATCH OUT LOCKS! lol, anyone know how much damage this does at lvl 62? can anybody test it out then tell me what damage they got from it? those formula type things confuse me. a Great stratedgy with this is have a rake and a mangle on the target then maim him, let the rake tick away while ur energy regens and then get 84 energy for 2 shreds right before person gets out of stun.

Does anyone know if this turns off your attack like gouge? cuz that would suck if you used this then u get that really quick autohit in to immediatly revive the maimed person.

edit: for those curious as to what maim looks like, its your two claws slashing in an X shape then the purple ring flys around above the maimed player showing they're stunned, just like sap or gouge.

edit: ok i figured this should average around 500-700 dmg, which is about 200 below a 5 cp ferocious bite at the same lvl.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is how u can Stunlock with druid...need to have omen of clarity ofc:

Pounce+Mangle+shred+shred+maim+pounce+mangle+shred+shred...

It works...sometimes if u crit atleast once

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have a different stunlock developed. Anyways, Pounce, mangle, shred, Go into bear and build up rage, bash, back into cat. If u have furor then u can immediatly start on another mangle or shred if u like then maim once person gets out of bash. build energy and do 2 shreds when u can then person should be dead or near dead, if not then FB andi f that crits their dead! lol. Works like a charm! Don't useagainstl ocks tho cuz they will fear or deathcoil u if u go bear. This works well against a shadow priest, hunter, warrior, another druid (especially balance), and i haven't tried on shaman yet....

Kommentar von Thottbot

lol heck no, druid needs a stun in cat.... badly, besides if your victim to this its probably because the person needs to heal, just insignia, stop the druids heal and there u have it, ifi ts part of a stunlock? well ur gonna have to develope ur own counter to that =Þ

Kommentar von Thottbot

Also mages cant blink when they are incapacitated just when they are stunned like kidney shot

Kommentar von Thottbot

How do you avoid accidentally breaking the effect with auto-attack? Does Maim disengage you from combat?

Kommentar von Thottbot

With all the talk of stunlocking I'm surprised no one mentions maim then heal. I know we have barkskin but in pvp a lot of classes can stop your heal (counterspell, kick, etc) but if you maim then switch to caster you can get back a lot of health before they can do anything. At 70 add a cyclone if needed.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a level 63 with mainly quest reward gear (1400AP) this does ~650 damage with 5 combo points. FB does about 950 damage but the 6 seconds of incapacitation and the fact that it doesnt kill all of my energy make this more useful in most situations. And mages cant blink out of it :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

though ive seen mages iceblock against this skill.. kinda neat :P

Kommentar von Thottbot

Things to know:

Maim cancels auto-attack. If not......what would be the use for this?

From my calculations the damage is roughly 20% lower than ferocious bite.

This would be great to use then get around and shred.

Also great when you have low health. Use, switch out, healx2.

And thats pretty much what I remember.....oh ya! It pwns.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Oh and the combo for Warrior bleed stun lock is, Pownce-mangle-rake-rip then mangle-mangle-mangle-rake then Maim... wait till the maim is almost up or until the rake is about to fade then use your pownce and do it all over again... feel free to add more rake or rip to the combo if needed this is a great bleed stun lock since against high armor ppl direct damaging moves are kinda unefficient.

Kommentar von Thottbot

if you have 6 seconds on maim, wait for 100% energy then attack

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, I have a lvl 27 druid in the year 2006. No such thing!

Edited, Sat Mar 18 17:21:18 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If this goes in-game, it will be the calling for cat users, having an in-battle stun will change the way we feral players play completely.

EDIT:

this is on the internal test servers obviously)

Edited, Sun May 22 17:20:22 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is just like Gouge, except it uses up combo points instead of generating them.

Overpowered my eye...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hm.... maybe this is from a test server or something... that would be awesome if this is a new skill, i would love that skill...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

could be internal servers indeed and the level 6 is for testing purposes on their internal realms...

or somebody is having fun with the database here and submitting a fake new skill for druids...
But somehow going as far as creating a icon to go with it and then screw up the level requirement that badly just sounds wrong...

My bet is on internal servers right now..
Wouldn't bet on this one making it to the real world though. Sounds a wee bit to powerful...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am lvl 10 and I dont see it my trainer.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've seen this or something like this months ago. The icon seems familiar.

I think back then the people wrote something about "Beta" or "Mob skill".

Even without the damage done, this skill would be worth it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

in the expansion, but it is level, 62 i think

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I see your ummmm and raise it with bloody no! This is not only wrong, it's impossible, as a druid only have feral combat at lvl 10+. Maybe a beta bug?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

... I want this. In the Wetest way possible!
Gimme!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Its a Rank 1 spell that you learn at lvl 6. You dont get cat form until lvl 20 so its fake.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ummmm?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Agreed, sweet if its actually out there (which I doubt) and if it were, dont you think we'd see it already in spell learning when we go to level? Unless of course, its one of those "only level 6 can enter" and you can't get it otherwise...

Somebody make a new char & go search for it as soon as you reach lvl 6! Give me a report as to how much time you waste looking for it before you gave up.

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