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Kommentar von 2679

You can find all of these mobs in the southern glade, just south-west of the Emerald Sanctuary. If you are horde, suggest doing this quest with "A Husband's Last Battle": https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=6162

This quest makes a great start to gaining Timbermaw Rep

Kommentar von Kragmose

Coords are 48,90

Kommentar von 49692

The coords are around: 48,90. For people without any coords,
Dreadwood Village is where you can find the furblogs. SW of the Emerald Sanctuary.

Kommentar von stoptherobots

As of Patch 2.2 this quest give 700 reputation with Timbermaw Hold.

Kommentar von 137826

easy quest, questgiver is close to the monsters. dont skip it for some fast extra exp

Kommentar von Sandos

It can be an extreme pain to do this when lvl 70's of the opposing faction are grinding rep. Be warned!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hopefully the following numbers will be of use to those currently trying to get nice with the Timbermaw. Keep in mind that I'm using Reputation 0.9 Addon http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=57. Refer to that page for the numeric values for each level of reputation.

Kill Deadwood Furbolg*: +5 Points
Kill Overlord Ror: +25 Points
Complete Timbermaw Ally Quest: +50 Points

*This includes the higher level 'bolgs to the north as well as the lower level 'bolgs to the south. I understand there is also a named leader (much like Overlord Ror) in the northern camp who I assume gives more reputation than a normal Deadwood 'bolg

I am halfway through Unfriendly so I am not sure about the Reputation reward given for the higher level "Kill X Deadwood" quest(s), but hopefully these numbers were of some use.

If someone has this addon (and doesn't mind ruining the possibility of becoming friendly) I would be very interested in seeing the negative reputation numbers given for killing a Timbermaw. I'd also like to confirm the rep. reward given for killing the upper (higher level) 'bolg leader and/or completing the higher level "Kill X Number" quest, I'd appreciate that.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Timermaw ally quest on completion.

At level 56, +20 faction
At level 55, +30 faction
At level 54, +40 faction
At level 53, +50 faction

Faction for killing in Felwood doesn't seem affected by level.
+5 for killing trash.
+25 for killing named.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes -- grinding these things is to give away 10+ hours of your life. I ground for at least 2 levels. And I did it alone.

BUT, once you raise to "unfriendly" -- it is SO nice to walk through that tunnel untouched ... and especially so to walk past other people trying to fight their ways through. It also makes a nice retreat for PvP -- sure, chase me in HERE!

I did this all for the Moon Cloth boots pattern. Once you get "friendly," you get 2 quests -- the first giving an item, the second the pattern. And the boots are sweet. The cash and drops as you grind are Ok -- mostly cash and fabric ... with the occasional cool drop.

Is it worth it? Probably not. Am I happy with the results? You bet.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It takes a bunch of kills to get the status changed so they won't attack. Doing the quest furthers that little.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I searched a lot about faction rewards, that i found:

Timbermaw Furbolgs
Known Faction related bonuses:
At Hostile you can get the Quest �Timbermaw Ally� from Grazle.
At Unfriendly they are no longer flagged to "kill on sight".
At Neutral you can get the Quest �Deadwood of the North� from Grazle.
At Friendly you can get a quest for the Mooncloth Boots recipe, Meilosh gives two more nice quests, Meilosh sells warbear receipes (chest and pants) and earth to water receipe.
At Honored Gorn One Eye will sell to you some crap.
revered unknown
exhalted unknown

Kommentar von Thottbot

:) 56.60

Kommentar von Thottbot

Deadwood guys are at 48,91, far south

Kommentar von Thottbot

Opening chests in Azshara in the Timbermaw camps isn't a good idea, even if you're "unfriendly" (being not Kill'able On Sight - KOS); they attack you immediately and they're strong (running for not to get worse reputation points)...

I had to try that one. ;)
(As mentioned suggestion some posts above.)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I had a full hostile bar that wouldnt come down and at war was locked in. I sent a complaint to Blizz via help window and instantly recieved unfriendly status. I think there may be some sort of problem because my rep bar did go the wrong way even though I was killing the deadwood furbogs. So my recomendation is file a complaint, get unfriendly status, and go from there. dated 9-1-05

Kommentar von Thottbot

i know that it is counter-intuitive, but your reputation is going up when the hostile bar increases (left-to-right). that means you are going to be promoted to "unfriendly," the next level of reputation. then you will have to work through unfriendly to get to neutral and so on.

it isn't bugged...it just looks like you are going in the wrong direction. (now kill 1 million more furbolgs to get those lw-ing patterns!)

Kommentar von Thottbot

as well as some other guildies of mine and cant figure out why were arent gaining rank anymore. Anyone else experiencing this menace. BTW took me 2 hours before i noticed so you can imagine how thoroughly pissed I am at this point.

is this a bug?

thanks in advance.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You guys might want to check the WoW site once in awhile. They just released the rewards for Timbermaw faction and the upper level stuff is nice. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/timbermaw/rewards.html

The transmute is awesome and the trinket might be nice as well. Sounds like a Barov peasant caller.

Kommentar von Thottbot

died in the tunnel once. rezzed, called void walker, arrived in winterspring. it's that easy =)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ya definately don't try to open the chests in their camp, even if you aren't KOS (kill on sight) anymore. I tried and they jumped me. :( Soooo tempting to just turn around and beat them down...darn faction rewards!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Im currently lvl 56 trying to get to moonglade, so im doing this quest watching my repuation w/ these guys

i am stunned to see my rep getting worse (-5 per kill) with every kill.... this is weird 0.o...

Kommentar von Thottbot

where are the warrior, pathfinder and gardner pls cant find em :) :(

Kommentar von Thottbot

I see these quests mainly for enchanters, in order to get the formula to add 15 agi to a weapon you have to be Honored with the timbermaw. then you can buy it from one of them.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Reputation for Timbermaw is earned by killing DEADWOOD NPC's. its +5 rep for each kill but there are certain cheiftans that give +15 that are significantly harder.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well they moved the npc for this quest x,y is 50,84

Kommentar von Thottbot

wheres the q giver ive looked everywhere?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Try 48, 89...middle of their camp

Kommentar von Thottbot

The quest giver Grazle is directly opposite the Emerald Sanctuary in southern Felwood --- not as the map may suggest in the far north near the tunnel to Winterspring --- the first quest objectives are nearby. If you want to travel to the north for the lvl55 quests (and I don't know why you'd do that now) or for the flight path nearby (Ashenvale is almost as close to this quest) --- you're welcome to ... but the odds are you'll aggro lvl48-50+ bears, wolves and ooze. BTW the feathers that the Deadwoods drop enhance your reputation with the Timbermaw. I remember the first time I did the first quest, I seem to have enough of a reputation (merely unfriendly rather than hostile) to allow access to the tunnel --- it'll take forever for them to talk to you or trade with you --- but who needs them? LOL

Kommentar von Thottbot

Felwood 48,94

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/timbermaw/index.html

Everyone starts out at 2500/3000 Hostile reputation.
Warning: Do not attack any Timbermaw Hold furbolgs or you will ruin your reputation with them.

There are four ways to increase your Timbermaw Hold reputation: kill Deadwood furbolgs (Felwood), kill Winterfall furbolgs (Winterspring), quests, and repeatable quests.

You can get the quest Timbermaw Ally from Grazle (he's friendly) in southern Felwood along the road. After you reach Unfriendly reputation, Nafien will give quests. Nafien is located outside the Timbermaw Hold tunnel entrance north of Felwood

You will only receive reputation up until Revered for most monsters. Each furbolg gives 5 reputation points, Overlord Ror and Chieftain Bloodmaw give 15 reputation points and High Chief Winterfall gives 25. After that, you'll mainly need to collect beads, feathers or Deadwood totems. After completing quests, you can start to get Deadwood Headdress Feathers. In Winterspring, talk to Salfa for quests, then you start to get Winterfall Spirit Beads. If you're trying to reach Exalted reputation, you should wait until Revered reputation before turning in the feathers 5 feather for 50 rep, stacks of 250.

Friendly

Pattern: Warbear Harness 1g 44s Leatherworking 275-Tribal
Pattern: Warbear Woolies 1g 98s Leatherworking 285-Tribal
Recipe: Transmute Earth to Water 1g 35s BOP Alchemy 275
Formula: Enchant 2H Weapon - Agility 2g 50s BOP Enchanting 290

Honored

Furbolg Medicine Pouch 13g 50s BOP off hand, heal 100 per sec for 10 sec
Furbolg Medicine Totem 11g 98s BOP Main hand Mace 31.0 DPS, 6 Sta 6 Spi
Plans: Heavy Timbermaw Belt 1g 80s BOP Blacksmithing 290
Pattern: Might of the Timbermaw 1g 98s BOP Leatherworking 290
Pattern: Wisdom of the Timbermaw 1g 98s BOP Tailoring 290
Formula: Enchant Weapon - Agility 2g 70s BOP Enchanting 290

Revered

Plans: Heavy Timbermaw Boots 3g 60s BOP Blacksmithing 300
Pattern: Timbermaw Brawlers 3g 60s BOP Leatherworking 300
Pattern: Mantle of the Timbermaw 3g 60s BOP Tailoring 300

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just want to add that this quest awards 350 rep. If you're just looking for passage through the Hold, this is well worth it for the time invested. Took me about an hour at 53. The mobs you kill for this quest are 48-50, so you could easily do it even earlier.

Kommentar von Thottbot

this took you an hour? I did this quest in 20 or so minutes at lvl 48, and got 4400 exp and 350 rep with the timbermaw.

I read through all the comments before i did it just to make sure i wasnt wasting my time, and it didnt seem like a good idea to bother with it, but i went ahead anyway for a quick route to winterspring from moonglade, and i was surprised to see that half the comments are incorrect 0_o

course it may be because i havent so much as touched a timbermaw furbolg, much less attacked one.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Honestly this is a great quest to do the 50's in. Humanoid (I'm a tailor), seen a decent drop rate, maybe the hps are a little high for the level but darn close. It's definitely a viable alternative to WPL IMO.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Where are these deadwood guys?

Kommentar von Thottbot

The location of the Deadwood Warrior,Pathfinder, and Gardeners.

From Emerald Sanctuary, head directly Southwest to the bottom of your map. Here is the location of Deadwood Village with the guys you need for this quest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

there is a quest yearly in uc u shot of fireworks and then get an invitation for a celebration in moonglade if you 46 and get this your bumed cant get prize or go 2 festivel and it cheper way for druids 2 get 2 felwood

Kommentar von Thottbot

Good news all...since 2.2 the rep for this has atleast been doulbeld....10rep/kill and for this quest 700 rep reward!700!Thats from hostile to unfriendly in 1 quest with all the kills you need for the quest!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I see a lot of people saying they got 4400 XP and 350 Rep.

Maybe it's been recently updated, but I got 4400 XP and 700 Rep.

Macsen
Dwarf Retadin
Dalaran

Kommentar von Thottbot

6300 xp
770 reputation

Done as a lvl 50

Kommentar von Thottbot

thanks :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

I haven't seen a single set of coords in this entire post.. what the hell.

Kommentar von Thottbot

South to south west from emerald sanctury Felwood about 48,94

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Screw faction. Take a group, run through the tunnel by any means necessary and get the flight path. I guarantee you won't regret it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If all you wnat to do is get thru the tunnel, Unfriendly faction means they will not attack you first.

I did this quest just TWO times and got out of the automatic attack mode. I will worry about more faction for purchasing as I get it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I don't know if something changed or not, but I started out hated at at war...did this quest and dropped me to unfriendly! Went from 2900 to 326! A much more manageable number. Now I need to just knock that down. This quest was worth it for me!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got this quest from Nafien, not Grazle

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ha, my at war button is glitched.
Won't turn off.
Guess I'll just have to kill some Timbermaws.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, so I have done the 21 Woolies involved in the first leg of this quest 4 times. I am now at unfriendly...does this allow me to travel into the camps, or into the passageway leading to Winterspring? I am trying to complete a quest started in Un'Goro a few nights back, and have met up with this snag.

The first time I THOUGHT I was safe (after first pass of killing 21) I got chased the heck out of tunnel by Grazle lookalike. Don't want to chance pissing them off and losing what little ground gained.......

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Info from a level 51:

The amount of reputation increase for killing Gardeners and Warriors was 5 points. Pathfinders netted me 6 points, and Ror gave 25 points. At level 51, turning in the quest to Grazle gave me 110 reputation points.

I got this information by checking my Combat Log feature in the game. It took me almost an entire experience level to gain neutral standing.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Quest details have been updated.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Trying to get to Friendly (maybe Honored even). Since I started counting turned the quest in 12 times (5 times since neutral for sure). I read that you seem to get more for your time by just keeping killing, ok so I've been wasting a bit of time riding. Now I no longer have the kill 7/7/7 quest. I get a 6/6/6 quest to kill the ones in the North... Is this because I've turned it in so many times, my level hasn't gone up recently (still a 50)? It's titled Deadwood of the North.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did this quest twice... now they are at the exact point where they let me in... I did it at 50

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There is a village in 48,89 that will give you the mobs you need.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you just read the description, it's the same description for finishing the quest as it is for killing the guys. I suggest just killing a lot of deadwood guys to raise faction and forget the quest, not worth it since the guy is on the opposite end of the zone.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As a lvl 60 paladin it would be most effecient if i just grind deadwoods to the south to increase my faction?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lot of post here, each telling very different things...

The facts:
To get from unfriendly to neutral taked about 4-5 hours grinding, and to get from neutral to friendly - twice more. When i got friendly i able to visit a white timbermaw furbold shop at crossroads of tunnel between felwood and winterspirng. He is apprenice teacher of leatherworking and he sells lot of standart stuff for leatherworking and one recipe for 2g, don't remember the name. Might visit the azhara and check for some bonuses there

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lucky ones who ported to Moonglade during Moonshine Festival ;)
Get Flight Point, its as easy as that!

Nothing to say about getting to Winterspring....

Edited, Wed Feb 22 17:44:55 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got 5500 exp at lvl 53 and +700 rep.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did this as a lvl 47 Hunter, got 6300 XP for it. Between killing the furbolgs and the quest itself, I'm now at unfriendly with the Timbermaw.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i am a level 50 druid and i got .04 faction for the quest turn in so it seems it is faster for me to do quest then to keep killing when i only get .0016667 per kill

Edited, Mon Apr 4 11:03:06 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have killed timbermaw in Aszhara and i have at war checked cause the timbermaw rep to me is hostile how can i change this. Cause when i kill deadwood it adds to my rep 2530 hostile and then i turn in the timbermaw quest and it lowers it again like a vicious cycle. what can i do

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did this quest once, so far, solo: No xp, and I studied my Timbermaw faction before the killing, after killing and before turn-in, and after turn-in, and I don't see where it's moved at all. Don't know if the quest is bugged, or it takes a full group just repeatedly cleaning out the Deadwood Village to see any faction change. (I have Moof, a 47th Shaman on Malygos.)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The guys you need to kill for this easy quest are located in Deadwood village which is located southwest of Emerald Sanctuary or as you head into Felwood from the south (Ashenvale) it is on your left or west side of the road.

NOTE: YOU SHOULD GET "A HUSBAND'S LAST BATTLE" BEFORE YOU DO THIS BECAUSE "ROR" is also there. To get to Ror you will kill the bunch that you need for the timebermaw ally quest, so if you want to be efficient, do both at the same time! It's easy.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As a 54 druid I just prowled trough the tunnel with no problem.
Now at lvl 57 a quest is available in Winterspring invilving the Timbermaw so its is only now after I have established a flight path and have done several quests in Wintersping I made the decision to go ahead and make posititive the faction with the Timermaw.
So it is best to just get it out of the way in the long run.
;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Location: 48.90

Description: Levels range from 48-49 with the exception of one monster (Overlord Ror) who is level 51. Each kill of the Deadwoods will give you 5 points in reputation with the Timbermaw Furbolgs. Killing Overlord Ror will earn you 25 points. The Deadwood Gardeners can be annoying when they heal. Be ready to stop them. The Deadwood Warriors can put the "Curse of the Deadwood" (Healing effects reduced by 50% for 2 minutes) on you. There are plenty of single pulls throughout the village. However, be careful when pulling camps. Once you reach 50% of the way through "Neutral" reputation, you will not be able to recieve this quest anymore. However, a new quest called "Deadwood of the North" will become available which is pretty much the same thing, except your killing higher level Deadwoods in the north.

Experience: None

Reputation: 110 points with Timbermaw Furbolgs

Character: Level 47

Version: 1.8.4

Edited, Fri Dec 23 06:05:35 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's now updated to 10 points for every regular deadwood and 30 points for Overlord Ror. For those of you wanting an exact place without co ords go to the emerald city place and go directly down to Grazle. From there just follow the path down past the wolves and the trees and you'll see them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've done the quest 5 times now, and I agree that faction changes faster it seems if I just keep killing them. A friend of mine however, a druid, did the quest twice and is non KOS. It is entirely possible that either Night Elves or Druids (or both) gain more faction from doing the quest, or that they begin less hostile than most other race/class combos.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Using Reputation Mod, the quest now rewards 50 faction points. I can get more just by killing the mobs (at 5 pts each)in the time it takes to turn the quest in but I keep a current copy of the quest going in case I happen to be in the northern part of the zone or I just need to break up the monotony of killing these guys over and over.

600 deadmaw to go all the way through unfriendly and 600 more to go from neutral to friendly.

Faction does not divide in a group (like experience does.) You get full reward as long as you end up on the mobs hate list, so work together with someone else farming faction and it'll go much faster.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Before I knew about this quest, a friend and I spent an enjoyable afternoon in Azshara killing Timbermaw furbolgs.

Consequently, I had to run this quest a few hundred (?) times to get back in the Timbermaw's good graces.

(On a later trip through Azshara, I attempted to explain this fact to a paladin on a furbolg-killing frenzy, but was told by them to mind my own business. (not in quite those terms, however))

Kommentar von Allakhazam

put a day aside and just do aoe on em with friends, you'll be honoured in no time :P

gl

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I have gone from level 56 to level 59 killing these and I am still only half way neutral. Alright, so it was all rested XP but its getting silly now.

Managed to farm a lot of Runecloth and the growth potion though :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

4400 Experience points at level 49 warlock

Scarvel

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Quest gives a little faction

you have to kill a ton of mobs that give this faction to get any where

I have done a couple of 5 hour sessions and I'm about halfway trough unfriendly

You get more faction just killing the mobs than completing the quest imo

and mobs that give you faction range all of the way up to level 58 in Winterspring, so just kill the mobs that give you the best loot exp coin rather than worrying about just killing these 3 mobs over and over again

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Deadwood guys are at 48,91, far south

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just some info from Cosmos:
Deadwoods = .0016666 faction increase
doesn't matter if it's a 47 Gardener or 55 Avenger
Overlord Ror = .0083333 faction increase
clear his whole camp and it's worth .0166666

This quest gives you .1666667 faction increase

If you can kill nonstop, faction would be quicker. Level 48-49 will probablly want to do the quest!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

im a lvl 58 orc hunter. spent lots of time doing this. LOTS of time. killing a furbolg gets you 5 rep, the named ones equals 25, and the quests give so little rep they arent worth it for the run to hand in. The southern slaughter quest is REALLY not worth it, the northern one is semi-worth it, depending on your level. Once you are unfriendly, you can pass thru the tunnel without being attacked. Half way thru neutral exactly is actually when that northern slaughter quest becomes available, however since the quests are not worth it usually, I just kept farming the south because they were easier to kill. The north is good tho if you can get a few mages to run in and AoE with you cause there are three named furbolgs up there and they make it go by fast! Once you are friendly with the timbermaw, you can shop from a secret vendor in the tunnel at that room where all three paths meet, who is also a tailor trainer. Once you are honored, you can shop from a 'older-looking' furbolg who obviously has been in the racist furbolg culture for many more years and thus requires honored to be shoppable. He sells a cool-tho i dont know if its useful-offhander that is something like restores HP and Mana over time, and a use that is like Restore HP and Mana faster for 10 seconds. His name is Gorn one eye if you want to look it up. And there is a third quest the furbolg give you to kill deranged furbolgs that I think most people don't know about. I don't konw when it becomes available, but either at half way thru neutral or friendly, as I am currently friendly and just noticed this quest. Go thru the tunnel from FW to WS, and outside the tunnel in WS is a furbolg that gives a quest to kill the evil furbolg of WS. Same deal as the last two, its like 6/6/6, but this quest gives like 75 rep when we are at higher lvls, lvls that would have made the last quests yield like 15 rep! So this quest is the money maker, that most people don't find. It is worth it to get friendly with these guys i think, because in Aszhara, there is a area loaded with them and there is an ally quest to farm the furbolgs in Aszhara so....get friendly then go farm the farmers in Aszhara. I love killing pallys who have a bunch on them then /cheer and /victory with my buddies the furbolgs. There is also a massive gate that appears to be part of an as of yet unfinished instance, called Timbermaw Hold in Aszhara. Looks cool, hope it opens soon, and being friendly with them makes getting into this, if and when it opens, much easier. Hope all this info helps!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WAAAAAAAA This is retarded!

luckily you start out only a little bit hostile though

I started at full hostile :( :( :(

Oh well.... thank heavens for rested XP :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I found that killing the overlord kor gives a little bit more of a faction boost. I got unfriendly after 1 quest and killing about 70 of these guys (and Kor 10+ times). Killing these when you can pick up Corrupted Soul Shards is a very good idea too. They drop a lot of them, I'm up to 25 and i've only been doing this for an hour.

Edited, Sun Feb 27 02:16:44 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

As a level 54 Paladin it took only two repeats of the southern (near Ashenvale) quest (need to slay 7 Deadwood Gardners , 7 Warriors and 7 Pathfinders , and roughly 10+/- more random kills (those I needed to wade through to get to the ones I needed to complete the 7/7/7) as well as one slaying of Kor (southern named) to earn Unfriendly.

Beware that Kor does fear you, and often.

The quest giver, Grazle, does not have a blue ? (as noted before) but if you open dialog with him you will get the quest over and over.

There is no experience for turning in the quest (as noted before) nor do you earn any other prize. It's all about earning reputation.

The 7/7/7 types drop mageweave and coin. Kor dropped coin and a mithril lockbox for me. They are not skinnable. They randomly spawn in the several camps SW of the Emerald Sanctuary - across the path. Wolves and bears wander near the outskirts of the furbolg camps as do neutral aligned birds.

I did all of the above before reading this post so will do the third iteration of the quest (since I logged at the Emerald Santuary after the second turn in and accepted the third) and slay as many furbies as I can before boredom sets in too far (but I can use the mageweave to skill up first aid too) then I will get to Winterspring to complete some Ironforge quests.

I suppose I'll slay some along my travels to eventually earn friendly/honorable and to gather mageweave and runecloth (from the northern group) but I can't see doing the quests many many times in succession. Too boring and there are usually a lot of others there working the quest or gathering cloth too.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 22:11:30 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This post has a lot of information. A lot of good information, some bad information, and some "questionable" information. It is up to you to seperate the fact from the fiction. I'm going to throw in my two cents about this subject, because I am a compasionate sympathiser with the Timbermaw Furbolgs. I carry around my Dartol's Rod of Transformation everywhere I go.

First of all, let me explain that there are two tribes of Furbolgs. The Timbermaw (good) and the Deadwood (bad). The Timbermaw Furbolgs are a faction, the Deadwood are not. You gain positive faction rating with the Timbermaw faction by killing the Deadwood, and gain negative faction by killing the Timbermaw.

You start out by having 2500 / 3000 reputation hostile with Timbermaw. They do not have a bar in your reputation until you interact with either the Timbermaw or the Deadwood. To begin with, you can kill any Furbolg, whether it is one with the Timbermaw tribe or the Deadwood tribe. Once you make your first kill, the bar shows up along with the rest of your factions. Depending on what you kill, it will either go up or down.

Some people don't care at all about thier faction ratings, some people care very little, and some people care a lot. I am someone who cares a lot about faction, so this post is biased. After you reach lvl 60, have all the uber elite gear, have maxed out every profession, have learned every recipe, have completed every quest in the game, have your epic mount .... faction is the only thing left in the game that matters.

It is very easy to become unfriendly with the Timbermaw Furbolgs, and this should be your first goal. It sounds strange to become "unfriendly" but it is the next better reputation above "hostile". Once you become unfriendly, you can safely pass through the tunnel to Winterspring without being attacked by the Timbermaw.

Regardless of whether or not you accept this quest, the way to achieve this is to kill Deadwood Furbolgs. The easiest ones to kill are in the south of Felwood and give you 5 points of faction rating each, with some exceptions. The Pathfinders give 6 and Ror gives 25. Warriors and Gardeners give 5. Once you kill your first Deadwood Furbolg, for example let's say a Deadwood Warrior, you will now notice your faction repution will be at 2505 / 3000 hostile with Timbermaw Furbolgs. This is a good thing. The number goes up and you are are becoming less hostile.

Taking your faction above the 3000 mark equates to killing exactly 50 Warriors and 50 Gardeners, but you will inevitably kill Pathfinders, which brings down your kill count. If you kill Ror 8 times, you will only need to kill 20 Warriors, 20 Gardeners, and 16 Pathfinders to gain the next higher faction rating of unfriendly. If you don't want to bother killing Ror, you can kill 35 warriors, 35 gardeners, and 25 path finders. Do the math anyway you want, but you want 500 points to take 2500 past 3000.

You can group in a party to make this go faster, but there is something about this that is important for you to understand. In order for you to get faction increase, you must affect (for example damage) each mob that dies. This is different from gaining experience or credit for the kill. Two party members working at two different nearby camps will share experience and credit for the kill, but NOT faction increase. So, for example, three mages could get together, stay close to each other, round up a few furbolgs in a cluster, and all use arcane explosion to wipe them out in a matter of seconds.

Once you reach "unfriendly" you are allowed safe passage through the tunnel by the Timbermaw, and you can continue to kill Deadwood to gain more faction. The next higher rating is nuetral. Once this happens, you will no longer be able to kill Timbermaw Furbolgs, even by accident, because when you mouse over them, the dagger icon to fight is not there. The only way you can change that is by opening your faction console and putting a check box for "AT WAR" next to the bar. Don't do that. For every Timbermaw you kill you will have to kill 3 Deadwoods to earn back what you have lost.

Once you are nuetral with them, it will be very obvious which ones are the good guys and which ones are the bad guys and you won't accidentally kill members of the "wrong" tribe. There is a villiage of Timbermaw (good guys) in Azshera, two villages of Deadwood (bad guys) in Felwood, and two villages of Deadwood in Winterspring. It will now be clear to you as to which ones to kill to continue to gain favor with the Timbermaw. After nuetral comes friendly and after friendly comes honored.

Once friendly with the Timbermaw you are eligible to do additional quests, one of which is designed for a tailor to learn the pattern to make mooncloth boots. Once you gain higher reputation status, you can buy other stuff from the Timbermaw that cannot be bought any other way. These include recipes that bind on pickup.

Having said all this, let me ask and answer some questions:

Q: Is it necessary to do this quest to get to Winterspring?
A: No, but it's a good idea to do it at least once.

Q: Is it necessary to kill Deadwood furbolgs to get into Winterspring?
A: No, but it is the best way and I highly recommend it.

Q: Is it necessary to become at least unfriendly with Timbermaw to gain
access through the tunnel that leads to Winterspring?
A: No, but it is highly recommended.

Q: Why can't I just kill my way through the tunnel?
A: You can, with negative consequences.

Q: Why can't I just stealth through the tunnel, get the flight path to
WS and never have to bother with the tunnel again?
A: You can, with negative consequences.

Q: Can I kill Timbermaw in Azshara ... I want to farm them for mageweave?
A: Yes, go right ahead, but understand the consequences of doing so.

Suppose you are a blacksmith and do not consider not being able to make Heavy Timbermaw Boots a negative consequence, or being a tailor and don't consider not being able to make Mooncloth Boots a negative consequence. Okay, then let's just call it a "consequence" and not a "negative" consequence.

Finally, a note about the Furbolg in Azshera. The chances are, if you see someone killing the Timbermaw Furbolg in Azshara, they probably don't know any better, or don't care. The only logical reason that I can think of at this point in time would be the fact that these furbolg have very little competition. On a PvP server, this can come into play since the Deadwood Camps in Felwood can be an ugly place to be. Azshera is more peaceful. Both horde players and alliance players that are already nuetral or better faction rating with the Timbermaw will not be killing them. Even on a non PvP server, the Felwood camps can be highly competitive. However, this argument is debatable becasue there are better ways to farm for mageweave besides killing Timbermaw Furbolg. But most importantly, killing them is like burning bridges that you may one day like to cross.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I came to grind on some deadwood and ran across a large number of alliance on a killing spree. I soon found out that they were all in on a 40-man raid grinding together on the deadwood. I made nearly 18,000 rep in only a couple hours and went from friendly to revered. Unfortunately, once you hit revered the rep stops. You can only earn rep towards exalted status by collecting feathers in the northern camp or collecting necklaces at the timbermaw post in winterspring. I'm not sure about winterspring quests though as I haven't done much of them after getting revered.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Data from level 54.

It takes exactly 600 deadwood kills to raise faction a full level of hostile. i.e. To go from fully hostile to the lowest level of unfriendly, you would have to kill 600 of them. Killing the lower level ones in the south or the higher level ones in the north yielded the same exact faction benefit. (luckily you start out only a little bit hostile though... unfortunately I don't have the number I started at available anymore.)

Turning in the Timbermaw Ally quest from killing the deadwoods in the south gives the same faction reward as killing 8 deadwoods. DEFINITELY not worth the run, considering the time, effort, and lack of experience, versus the difficulty of killing 8 more deadwoods at the southern camp.

Edited, Sat Feb 19 21:36:48 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I recommend doing this at about level 50 since the amount decreases if you are significantly higher level. I got only 10 rep at lv 58 and only very few points (maybe 2) for the southern deadwoods. So I need the northern ones (higher level) and the winterfall furbolgs for 5 rep each and no quest to boost me up.
Killing timbermaws will decrease your reputation so don't fight them and you should get unfriendly quite soon. Grouping up is effective aswell since reputation doesn't split and you will kill at lot faster.
A quest for the northern furbolgs (Deadwood of the North) becomes available after friendly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

30 posts and nothing helpful for ppl that would still like to do the quest... how about some co-ords for these "Deadwoods" that the quest wants you to kill....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, my Priest tailor had 1.5 hours to kill until the Mooncloth popped, so I took my 60 mage along and figured I'd grind faction while I waited.

But, apparently you can only go up to Honored 6000/12000 by killing, after that killing South or North Felwood camps give no more faction!

I'm assuming I now need to take some more quests but im not really sure about that (I did read a reference to a Timbermaw quest giver in Winterspring).

So, if you're crusing along after getting honored, grinding up toward revered, you might want to keep an eye on your faction numbers because it will screech to a halt and your kills will be worthless, hehe.

I don't know if I have to will power to go all the way to exalted, my Priest is a Tailor/Enchanter and wants (but doesn't NEED) the Timbermaw shoulder pattern.

But, I have heard that the 1.9 patch adds some sort of Timbermaw quest that requires exalted. Ugh.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Changed in 1.9, Grazle is now just south of Emerald Circle (at 51, 85) as well as only requiring 5 of each type. However, I am currently unfriendly with Timbermaws and had it left over from 1.8. After turning it in, I wasn't offered it again, but considering the text of the "Feathers for ..." quest saying I already proved myself to him, I think it's now just to get up to Unfriendly. Got 66 (60 + human bonus) at level 55, quest was green.

Edited, Wed Jan 4 14:21:01 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I did the quest once and still had about 2735 faction points to get out of hostile - which equated to 500+ kills. I couldn't be bothered, so decided to run through Timbermaw Hold, and it was fine. To get to Winterspring, you can pull them one at a time pretty much - the most I pulled was 2 at once, all levels 52-55 (I'm level 54). Getting to Moonglade is harder as there's one bit where you have no choice but to pull about 6 of them at once. Unless you're in a group I recommend doing what I did - just run through them, pull them all and keep running up the tunnel until you die. When you go back to get your corpse you'll be far enough away that you won't pull any of them back on to you. There's then just a couple more to pull on their own before you're out the other side and can get the flight path.

Obviously if you wanted to go to those vendors in there it wouldn't work, but otherwise, totally worth it as I did the whole thing in half an hour, rather than three days grinding Deadwoods.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Don't think anyone has mentioned this yet. If you are going to try and just run through like I did you will cross a bridge not far from the start of the tunnel. At this point you have two choices, continue straight ahead and go to winterspring or go down to the right and pass back under the bridge to end up in moonglade.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

At what level can I get this quest? I'm Friendly at L41, and this took lots of help and about 8 hours of killing.

Kommentar von EdyG

This quest is repeatable.

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Grazle möchte, dass Ihr Euch beweist, indem Ihr 5 Krieger der Totenwaldfelle, 5 Pfadfinder der Totenwaldfelle und 5 Gärtner der Totenwaldfelle besiegt.

	Krieger der Totenwaldfelle getötet (5)
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Die Einwohner der Holzschlundfeste sind die einzigen Furbolgs, die von der Verderbnis verschont blieben. Aber viele andere Völker töten die Furbolgs jetzt blindwütig und scheren sich nicht darum, ob sie Freund oder Feind sind. Deswegen trauen die Furbolgs der Holzschlundfeste auch kaum jemandem.

Seid Ihr daran interessiert, Euch zu beweisen? Treibt den verderbten Stamm der Totenwaldfelle vom Teufelswald zurück, dann betrachten wir Euch eines Tages vielleicht als Verbündeten. Ihr findet den ersten Stamm der Totenwaldfelle - Krieger, Pfadfinder und Gärtner - westlich von hier.

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Holzschlundfeste

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(6131))

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