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6.	Wenn Geister sprechen
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9.	Was die Seele sieht
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12.	Es gibt keine Hoffnung
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Kommentar von 11676

Anyone know what the pre-req is for this? I did all the quests i've seen and still it hasn't opened up

Kommentar von 4705

I've completed every Nagrand quest available to me except for Durn the Hungerer, including the escort - but this quest isn't available to me. Garrosh doesn't have a grey ! over his head, either, so I doubt it's because of my level. I'm a level 67 warlock and at Revered with Mag'har.

Kommentar von Fugazi

You need to complete all quests in nagrand, that include demon hunter chain.

Kommentar von 12816

OK, so i finally got this.

there are 3 confirmed quest lines you must finish before getting this Thrall questline to unlock

1) blademaster chain https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10107

2) altruis the demon hunter chain https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9983

3) the murkblood quests (murkblood invaders https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9872 as well as the escort quest out of sunspring village)

thanks to gurgthock from elitistjerks forums.

Kommentar von ShihanLock

Confirmed Prereqs:

The Blademaster Chain: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10044
Altruis the Demon Hunter: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9983
Totem of Kar'dash (escort): https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9868

Note on the escort quest the horde npc will aggro the alliance npc if they see each other, so go ahead and take them out first.

Kommentar von 11253

You do not have to complete the nesingwary expedition quests to obtain this.

Kommentar von 29219

Ok....so I did all the quests in Nagrand including the chains that were mentioned.....and I still cannot pick up the quest

Kommentar von gothicjoe

Yeah I've done nearly every quest in nagrand and i cant get the quest either.

Kommentar von 34170

Did all the prerequisites listed. I'm 67, and still can't get the quest...anything else?

Kommentar von Sgtown

i guess you're either lying or you're stupid if you can't get this quest and you've done what people say.

I did all the nagrand quests, am only honored with maghar, and i got this chain easily.

Afaik, there's a chain that involves Altruis from Shadowmoon valley. It's the thing with the demon hunter near black temple. I've done that one, didn't notice this quest when I was in nagrad so that might be a prereq. Doubtful though.

Kommentar von 35558

I've done every single one of these quests, and still cannot get the quest from Greatmother

Kommentar von Ambushed

Is it possible that player race is a factor in the quest? Seems like it would be. If you've completed the quest, please tell your race

Kommentar von Ambushed

I just got the quest by completing the quest chains listed in post #2. Orc Shaman, level 67 Honored with Mag'Har

Kommentar von 37220

For all of you who claim you have completed all the pre-reqs and are not able to get this questline to open be _sure_ to complete the Blademaster chain. If you open the link in post 2 (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10107) and do just that quest it is not enough. You also have to complete these quests from the blademaster:

Armaments of Deception: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9928

Returning the Favor: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9931

Message to Garadar: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9934

I also was a bit puzzled before I noticed I had done everything else but these 3 quests.

Kommentar von 28558

Confirmed for escort quest, lacked only that one, did it and got this quest

Kommentar von 6533

Ok, I have done every single quest in Nagrand. The escort Q i did at 64/65, I did the Blade Q chain at the end of 66. and I have just finished the Altruis the Demon Hunters tiresome quest chain (Pain in the but, runnning around bloody Outland *grunble grunble*) but I did it anyway; knowing that I would get this quest chain when I was done. Nothing.....I can't get this Q...I can't talk to Garrosh or the Greatmother. so annoyed...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :P

Kommentar von 45175

I think you need Cho'war too, I dont know though, I've done all the prereqs and still cant get it

Kommentar von Sloper

Did you also spoke to Garrosh? Cause you have to talk to him first.

He'll tell you to go see the Great Grandmother.. then listen to her story and your on your way

Kommentar von 31446

You get a total of 6760 Mag'har rep from completing all the qeusts in this chain, as well as 1200 Sha'tar rep.

Kommentar von 55496

Omg i cant speak with Garrosh;
i have done all quests (blademaster, demonhunter, pillager,captive) and i cant speak with garrosh T.T

Kommentar von 58003

The required chains you MUST complete before doing this are:

The Blademaster Chain:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9888
This starts in Nagrand, brings you to Terrokar forest and then back to Nagrand. When you complete this chain with "Diplomatic Measures" the Burning Blade Chain will be unlocked.

Burning Blade Chain (Lantresor of the Blade):
Starts with:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9928
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9927
Once you complete these 2 quests at Kil'Sorrow fortress, you do another 2 up at the Laughing Skull ruins. The last quest in this chain is "Message to Garadar"

Altruis the Demon Hunter chain:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9983
You will need a group for most parts of this quest. There are parts that are easily soloable. Last quest in this chain to complete is Forge Camp: Annihilated

Murkblood Invaders:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9872
Get a note from Murkblood Invader who ride arround Nagrand to start the quest. If you're under 70 you might want a partner.

Totem of Kar'dash (Escort):
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=9868
Easily soloable.

Kommentar von decaydence

This quest chain becomes super super easy after hitting 70 & getting a flying mount. I would've killed myself if I had to use a non-flying mount for the 5th part.

Kommentar von Glocksucker

Can someone tell me what im doing wrong is? I've done absolutely every quest in Nagrand. I've checked, and checked, and double checked this, and i still cant get this quest. Is it bugged or something?

Kommentar von 54798

I have done every single quest in Nagrand as well including Ring of Blood and he still wont start the questline for me. /sigh

Kommentar von 7577

I thought that I had done the escort quest. I flew over the guy, saw the green NPC down below, and he didn't have a quest ! above his head. So I assumed I had done it.

But I was wrong.

Turns out you have to kill all of the mobs near him, and THEN he will give you the escort quest. So if you've flown over and found the guy, and thought you'd already done it, try killing all of the mobs around him and see if he offers you the escort quest.

BTW, it was reasonably easy to do as a solo 70 BM Hunter. He heals himself, and my pet could tank most of the mobs. Cakewalk.

Edit: Fix spelling of a few words

Kommentar von 92932

The pre-requisite quests alone got me about a level worth of XP. You can do the Murkblood and Blademaster/Burning Blade quests at level 65, but the Forge Camp quests are 66, so if you are trying to maximize your efficiency you need to get started at 65 on those pre-requisites.

Thank you to all the posters on this thread! You were a big help!

Kommentar von 113030

Final tally of experience points and reputation gain for the entire chain as of 1/19/2008 is as follows:

130650 XP
6060 rep with Mag'har
850 rep with Sha'tar

Kommentar von krigath

you do not need to do Wanted: Durn the Hungerer or Vision of the Dead to get this quest.

Kommentar von 156136

I have been trying to start this quest for days now...
I've finished all the prequests from what i can see, i thought maybe that I hadn't done the escort but the quest isn't coming up when i kill the guards so i guess I've done it.
Has anyone else had this problem or is there something else I'm missing..?

Kommentar von Cydrone

Altruis quests are not needed to get the chain.
I did the blademaster chain, Murkblood Invaders, and the escort, before I was able to get this quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You need to be Revered with Mag'har before this quest chain shows up.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've done EVERY Mag'har quest

* Finding the Survivors
* Missing Mag'hari Procession - War on the Warmaul - Cho'war the Pillager
* Proving Your Strength
* The Impotent Leader - Don't Kill the Fat One - Success! - Because Kilrath is a Coward - Message in a Battle - An Audacious Advance
* Diplomatic Measures
* The Missing War Party - Once Were Warriors - He Will Walk The Earth...
* Wanted: Giselda the Crone
* Wanted: Zorbo the Advisor
* Wanted: Durn the Hungerer
* Standards and Practices - Bleeding Hollow Supply Crates
* Murkblood Invaders
* Vile Idolatry
* Murkblood Leaders...
* The Totem of Kar'dash
* Armaments for Deception - Ruthless Cunning - Returning the Favor - Body of Evidence - Message to Garadar
* Survey the Land - Buying Time - The Master Planner - Patience and Understanding - Crackin' Some Skulls - It's Just That Easy? - Forge Camp: Annihilated

Someone please tell me either the quest has been removed or I've missed one

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You need to be Revered with Mag'har before this quest chain shows up.

This is wrong. You need to be level 68, and have finished all the quests in the zone. I'm level 67 and Revered with Mag'har and my guildie is 68 and honred and he got the quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

u dont need to be 68 or revered. i got this quest at 66. i think u need to have done all the quests in this zone

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hello,

I do know for a fact you do not have to be revered when starting this quest line, i did not become revered till after I started this quest. You do have to do the leigioniers out in the camps ( so it seems) , you do need to do the guy over in burning blade ruins and you have to do the murkblood invaders as well it seems (maybe you ran into them early on in the area and completed the quest and did not realize it) and the escort quest. Afeter several of my guildies tried it various wasy some things seem consistant to open this line up. The only thing I had not done was the escort quest and I could not start the chain till after this last one was done in Nagrand.

Take care safe journeys..

32nd fadh SoV
aka: Olathedyami
Norgannon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Myself and a rogue I was questing with both finished the chain that involves planting the banners on the orc and kilsorrow bodies. After we completed the entire chain, he was given the quest to speak with the great mother. My mag'har rep was at 10433/12000, his was at 10124/12000. I did not receive the quest. If it really does require revered rep maybe it just bugged out on him.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Actually, it's not bugged - it makes perfect sense if you read the conversation you have with the Greatmother. Basically Garrosh has lost the will to fight and you notice that almost every quest you hand in, you are met with the same typical answer, "it doesn't matter, we are all going to die anyway."

So, basically what you have to do to activate this quest is simply to do every quest that involves talking to Garrosh at one point or another. For me the last step was the escort, simply because I missed it (31,44 - kill the brutes to activate it).

In any case, you finally get to speak to the Greatmother after you've seemly done everything you can to try and revive his spirit...

- Nimbaloo
69 Hunter - Unhallow

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I had stalled in being able to advance this quest chain.

At 70th level, Revered with Mag'har, and having completed every quest in the zone (including the "hidden" quests) I was not offered any further quests.

I opened a ticket and was told that I needed to complete the prerequisite quests to advance the chain. Which I had done, but the GM would not believe me that this was a game bug and treated me as though I were asking for game hints.

But today after the server maintenance window was over Garosh had a quest which he had not offered previously. It was this one, and I'm happy that I'll be able to complete this quest chain now. But unhappy about the non-responsiveness of the GM staff.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://www.wowwiki.com/Geyah

Following the above link, Wowwiki gives a descent overview on what quests you're required and not required to do.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did the Altruis quests along with all of the other Nagrand quests except
Ring of Blood and got this quest at lvl 67. Only honored with Mag'har

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got this after doing forge camp and ring of blood. my money is on forge camp quests

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i have completed the entire zone, aside from: the forge camp quests, and the mukblood invader attack plans.

I am level 67, and honored with the mag'hari, and i conn't get this quest

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you guys have it all wrong, you have to complete the quests from the half orc half draenei in the *Burning Blade Ruins*. He gives u a series of quests and finally he sends you to speak to Gorrosh who then sends you to speak to the greatmother. I'm 67, honored with Mag. Thats all.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I obtained this quest as honored. Just thought i would share.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this info is all over the place, if this quest need to be unlocked then it might be a simple matter that the quest is bugged. however when people say "all" that doesn't seem to include the thorn of elements quests

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dosent need any rep!

Did it .. im honored 1500 rep from revered !

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i tried for this quest at revered, it did not show up. it was only after i did all the quests in the zone that it appeared.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hard for me to tell but id say the escort at sunspring post is the prereq. the guy says "what does it matter, the greatmother is dying..." when you hit complete and then is this quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Regarding people saying they got the chain after doing only the escort quests; they're wrong. The quest chain from Altruis which ends in destroying both Forge Camps is a prereq for the chain, aswell as all the elemental quests for the elementals above Garadar.

It seems that some people are spreading misinformation on purpose.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

sry wrong

Edited, Feb 16th 2007 10:23pm by KPiela

Kommentar von Allakhazam

November 2007

You have to complete all the quests in Nagrand.

Garrosh is in Garadar.

"Diplomatic Measures" takes you to the half breed, Lantresor, at 73.62. He starts a 6 part chain, which is easily soloed.

"He Called Himself Altruis..." gets you to Altruis, he is at coords 27.43, he starts "Survey the Land", you should know that this is a 7 part chain and you may need a group to complete.

The hidden quests are

1. "Murkblood Invasion Plans", which you have to kill the three invaders on the north west road, the quest is a drop from 1 of the raiders. You have to be lvl 64 to start it.

2. "The Totem of Kar'dash" (escort quest that starts in Sunspring Post, coords 31.44). When you go for this, I suggest you get the following, they are in the same area.

"Vile Idolatry"
"Murkblood Leaders..." (Ortor is at 30.42)
"Once Were Warriors"
"Murkblood Corrupters"
"The Spirit Polluted" (this is done at Lake Sunspring, Watoosun is at 33.50)

HORDE RULES

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lots of info here but one thing is quite important, there is one quest chain which you will find under the terokkar forest category which you need to complete. called The Impotent Leader

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Here is some great info on what is and isn't required to begin this quest chain ... http://www.wowwiki.com/Geyah

Edited, May 5th 2007 12:27am by Belora

Kommentar von Allakhazam

as far as i can tell.. and logical as the followups are horde only.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am level 67, Honored, have done all quests except attack plans. I now get the quest; I didn't yesterday.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You must complete all the quests from Garadar as well as the two hidden ones.

All includes the Camp Forge quests from Altrius. Once you have done these you can get the quest from Garrosh.

The two hidden ones are the escort in Sunspring Post and killing the 3 elephant riders to get the murkblood invader attack plans quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This chain becomes available when you have completed all the Mag'har quests, including the Blademaster, Demon Hunter, and Sunspring Escort quests, and have reached level 66.

* A Visit With the Greatmother (50 reputation)
o Material Components (700 reputation)
+ To Meet Mother Kashur (20 reputation)
# The Agitated Ancestors (500 reputation)
* A Visit With The Ancestors (500 reputation )
o When Spirits Speak (500 reputation)
+ A Secret Revealed (500 reputation)
# Auchindoun... (700 reputation)
* What the Soul Sees (700 reputation)
o Return to the Greatmother (20 reputation)
+ The Inconsolable Chieftain (20 reputation)
# There Is No Hope (50 reputation)
* Thrall, Son of Durotan (500 reputation)
o Hero of the Mag'har (2000 reputation)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This site happens to neglect that there are 3 quest chains you need to complete before she will offer this quest.

1. The Blademaster Quests from the ruins in SE Nagrand
- The Impotent Leader
2. The escort quest in Sunspring
- The Totem of Kar'dash
3. The Forge camp quests in W Nagrand
- Survey the Land

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you have to do ALL the quests in garandar, mag'hari procession camp, and the demon hunter Altrius quests, for this quest to unlock. Also the drop quest from the 3 Murkblood patrols and the escort quest out of Sunspring Post

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Turns out I did miss some quests.

As I turn in the escort the Mag'har Catptive quest, I got this one. I suspect you have to do so many quests that's related to him (Garrosh) or turn in to him before you can get this. When I picked up this quest, I was still Honored with Mag'har, so revered is definately not required. I also had the Invasion Plan quest I haven't turn in so that one is not a direct trigger either.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I had to kill Gankly Rottenfist Diebus Faulfaust before I could complete this quest. When you kill him (and protect the gnome he's trying to kill), you will get another turn in quest. After completing them, I was then able to complete this quest.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2007 4:24am by Gereg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Still can't get access to this q-chain, have done all the quests in the zone (i think). All Garadar, procession camp and altrius quests, all done. All quests from the guy in Burning Blade Ruins...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well I can't get this quest to show up. I'm honored, done all the quests (except the burning blade ruins ones cause i cant find the guy that gives them). Does anyone have the coords for him as well as coords for mag'hari procession camp

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Have just about giving up on ever recieving this quest.

I have done all quests in Nagrand as just about all the quests from all other areas, except the ones in raid/heroic instances now.
And I stil haven't gotten this quest.
Don't know what else to do, even talked to GM's but they don't say if I'm buged or missing some quests.
So unless there is some quest that drop from a mob that I need I don't see what else one can do.

Kommentar von Sianis

I was able to pick up this quest without completing Murkblood Invaders.

The only quests I did in Nagrand were the Blademaster chain (including Message to Garadar), the Altruis the Demon Hunter chain and the Totem of Kar'dash (the quest appeared after turning in Totem of Kar'dash).

Kommentar von Araskelo

This quest became available after I recently completed all of Lantresor of the Blade's quests. I completed every quest in Nagrand by the time I was done with that chain.

Kommentar von hepkus

I wanted to see what very little I could do as for quests before this would unlock. I started with trying to get Lantresor of the Blade's quests out of the way due to a previous comment on here hoping it would appear afterward. It did not. It basically came down to doing every single quest in Nagrand besides the Nessingwary and Consortium quests.

I even had to do the quests with the illidari dude in western Nagrand. Did the escort quest out of Sunspring Post. Did the egg quest with the Goblin. It wasn't until all those were done that Garrosh finally offered this quest. Just an FYI for those wondering how to get going on this chain.

Edit: This comment on the last quest of the chain sums it up I guess.
Held der Mag'har#comments:id=2992087

Kommentar von ksheminskiy

<TBC Classic comment>

I had no quests done in Nagrand, so to reach this quest I had to complete:

1. The Blademaster Chain: https://tbc.wowhead.com/?quest=10044
2. Altruis the Demon Hunter Chain: https://tbc.wowhead.com/?quest=9983
3. Totem of Kar'dash (escort) in Sunspring Post: https://tbc.wowhead.com/?quest=9868

Kommentar von aprildawn567

I thought I had done every quest in Nagrand, and couldn't figure out why this quest was not appearing. Then I realized I have a quest called Patience and Understanding, which occurs in Shattrath City in the Lower City at /way 77, 35. After completing that quest you will do 3 more quests, ending with Forge Camp: Annihilated. Now this quest should be available to pick up at /way 55.4, 37.6.

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