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Kommentar von 4615

The control is like a Priest's Mind Control; your point of view shifts to the target machine, and you have a pet bar with their abilities. Your character stands motionless for the duration. Possible backfires are self explanitory.

Kommentar von Minorou

This trinket comes in handy in Gnomeregan, where a large portion of the mobs there are mechanical.

Kommentar von 6984

Note that the enemy mob you control can also attack other enemy mobs - therefore, in tricky situations, not only do you have one less enemy to deal with, you get a temporary ally to fight for you!

Kommentar von 9806

Can be used to control Fel Reavers in Hellfire Peninsula.

Kommentar von h0pe

You can controll almost any mechanical NPC with this. I controlled the boss in Dead Mine with this, Fel Reavers in Hellfire Peninsula, the elite mobs in the far north-east.

Have fun controlling mobs and running havoc with this sweet trinket, watch out when it backfires though!

ps. The Fel Reavers hit very hard :p

Kommentar von Bunneh

The Fel Reavers are now Immune to the effects of this item. And yes they do hit hard :)

Kommentar von Zeshar

The backfire effect on this is "Target Lock".

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=8347

5000 threat.

Kommentar von 40282

Has anyone tried this inside Mechnar, lots of mechs in there?

Kommentar von 78626

I made one of these and couldn't get the dang thing to work after many trys so I destroyed it, then read about how people were controling all kinds of things and having a blast so I made another and still had no luck and never controlled any mechs (the reavers in westfall) so I destroyed it again. After reading this page I'm thinking of giving it one last try, lets hope for the best.

Kommentar von stoptherobots

I can confirm after five tries (and deaths) that the Fel Reaver is now immune to this device. Too bad...

Kommentar von Lighter

Heres a small list of those which i have tested can / cannot be controled, as of 2.1.3

Fel Reaver (Hellfire) - Immune
Fel Reaver (Near Kazzak) - Immune
Fel Reaver Sentry (Abyssal Shelf - Hellfire) - Immune
Doomwalker (Shadowmoon) - Immune
Tempest-Forge Patroller (Mech) - Immune to Control (not immune to root / threat)
Fel Cannon (Abyssal Shelf - Hellfire) - Not Immune, but only has a weak melee so useless
Fel Cannon MKI (Hellifre) - Not Immune
Toshley Flying Machine ( Blade's Edge) - Not Immune, Horde only i guess, have to fly in land at a spot where you are in range then use before they fire at you

Basically the device can be fun and at lower level usefull but most high level usefull stuff is immune, it also has a resonably high backfire chance.

Kommentar von 52618

This is now my favorite trinket.

I can tell you now after some testing that there is almost no mechanical unit in the game, from the Curator to Void Reaver, that is immune to this trinket, at least the mind control aspect of it. The reason that many people get an "immune" message when using it is because it has a chance to instead of MCing the target, root it in place. this causes an immune message for most things, because the fun stuff to mind control, like Fel Reavers, are immune to CC and root spells.

Kommentar von 63403

The large robots in Arcatraz (the ones you find half-broken) are not immune to this. Be sure you pull them before using it, however, or you end up controlling a dormant bot, which is no use.
This was VERY useful back when Arcatraz had the double bot pull... not so much now that it has been nerfed.

Kommentar von Grandomega

This is rediculous! I finally get my hands on one of these just to find out that its one of the most useless items for engineers at high levels! Most (if not all) of the useful mechs to control are immune to at least one of the effects this thing causes.

I dont see why Fel Reavers were made immune to it. Surely not everyone would take control of one to send it into the other faction's base in HFP.

What else is useful for a high level engineer? The Goblin Rocket Launcher stuns you for just as long as your target, the Gnomish Poyltriser turns your target into a chicken that can still kick your ass if its a strong opponent. The best thing is the FLying Machine thats still in the works & the goggles, IMO.

Kommentar von FroRev

Shattered Sun Sentries are immune to this remote's mind control effect.

Kommentar von Bsmx93

Made one at level 10, never worked for me until level 15, now it has like a 85%, at level 18 I hacked Sneed's Shredder first try. But Sneed's Shredder doesn't count as a real boss, hes like a mini boss, the real boss is Sneed, he cannot be mind controlled.

Edit: Changed it around a little.

Kommentar von 76913

maby it can tame Doomwalker (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=17711 ) or The Curator (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=15691 )... or Void Reaver (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=19516 )
)))

Kommentar von 135595

The Area 52 Death Machines ain't immune, this makes roof top camping possible.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It works on the final boss in Gnomeragan, allowing the rest of your party to disarm the bombs.

Seems bugged for most mechanical units as taking control of them results in all other units fading away from view on screen even though they are still there. Better hope what you took has an AOE spell.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Where can I find the schematic?

Kommentar von Thottbot

can a horde member get the schematic, and if so where?

Kommentar von Thottbot

For all you horde players that think you can't get it. Just buy it from Jinky Twizzlefixxit a vendor in Shimmering Flats area of Thousand Needles. I beleive its a limited supply item so you might have to come back if someone has purchased it recently. Vendor is at the race track obviously.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Flasks of oil drop commonly from harvesters in westfall, among other engineering components

Kommentar von Thottbot

"Warning! Warning! Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert!"

...this is why you were ambushed by about 10-15 mobs. The alarm sentry will summon about 5 mobs if you let it scream three times. Pack a shaman to use Earth Shock or his strongest Shock on the alarm bot to kill it instantly.

Regarding the remote, this is a gift from God in Gnomeregan. If you are a tank, THIS IS A MIRACLE. This will make mobs stick to you like glue. The aggro will never be taken off you. However for the Priest engineer this really isn't a good thing to have fail. It has a two minute cooldown- tiny in comparison- Should you succeed, you will either root the target making it unable to move for an unknown amount of time, or, you will dominate the target and take control of it for a full minute. This will theoretically sheep a target, removing it from combat, but also making it so it does damage to enemy targets! A fantastic little device for a small engineering skill and relatively small cost. The one problem with this is that when the duration ends, you will have infinite aggro of that mob on the user, so if you're in Gnomeregan, use it on a mob that's about to die so you can kill it quickly when it comes out of it's stupor. For all other mechanical targets, this is a handy little device that shows the true power an Engineer can wield.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i love taking over the final boss in gnomeragan and destroying his bombs...its great as a tank because he is angry at you afterwards

Kommentar von Thottbot

i'm a horde engineerer and i think this remote sounds funny. But where can hordes find any robots?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This thingis AWESOME in Dead Mines. I used it on a lvl 20 elite shredder and massacred :) Definently worth making!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is it possible to take over someone's Mechanical pet like the battle chicken or dragon?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have used this a bit, really like it since the chance of control is actually quite a bit. I'll point out the pros and cons about this one:

Pros:
*You can take control of a unit in the middle of a group and pull heavy aggro with it.
*You can take control of even mechanical bosses and fool around while the rest of the team members take it easy, heal and charge mana, best of all....it seems the mechanical units don't even heal!

Cons:
*Mostly just usable/fun in Gnomeregan
*If you have a pet/demon you must dismiss them first.

//

I myself took control of the boss in Gnomeregan while my party healed and charged mana :D I seem to have no trouble gaining control for longer periods of time so I use it with certainty.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i've tried it many time on westfall harvestors (only mechanical enemy i can really find) and even the mechanical boss in Dead Mines and at most it immobilizes them instead of crontrolling them, its never completely worked for me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

you can only use on targets that are'nt CONTROLED by some1/smething and harvest watchers are immume

Kommentar von Thottbot

I used this in Stonetalon mountians a lot and it only rooted once. It is fun but otherwise not esxtremely useful.

For the quest to take out the two shredders is proved to be wonderful though. Just take control of one and send it to kill off a logger or two and by then it is damaged enough for you to take out easily.

One time I tried it just for fun and it rooted the shredder and made it pretty upset with me. But sprint and vanish and that was all she wrote

You can also get it in Terran Mills at the golblin with the harvester. he wonders so just set at TM until he arrives. Seem to have it more than the racetrack guy

Cheers

Kommentar von Thottbot

I tried this a while ago on such a Fel Reaver. The experiment ended with the Fel Reaver being immune to it and crushed me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is it just me, or did anyone else pick an engineer just so they can have a trinket and headpiece at level 10? Heck, my level 36 still doesn't have a trinket...

Kommentar von Thottbot

i wonder if this would work in mech. if it did, engineering wouldent be as useless as i thought...

anyone tried it?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This thing is great when your at sneed's shredder in the deadmines. If it works on the shredder, you can use it to completely clear out the room of all the goblins...even though if it doesn't work your party's pretty much screwed

Kommentar von Thottbot

im lvl 13 and already got 1 of these harvest golems in westfall are gr8 to muck around with

Kommentar von Thottbot

FEL REAVER IS IMMUNNE! tried 2 timmes and didn't work.... link a picture of u taming a fel reaver if u can...

Kommentar von Thottbot

I had a major problem using this trinket in gnomer. What would happen is when we attacked a group that had say, 2 elites and 4 non-elites, we would only attack basically both elites (no AOE as well which might be important). What would happen is I would then use the remote on one of the elites and then the 4 non-elites would immediately turn their attacks on me. Two hits later and ive lost control and now im under attack by an elite and 4 nons. I was using a rogue so... you know how the rest went (thank god for vanish).

Now what I need to figure out is, as a non-tank in the run, does someone need to at least AOE once in order to make sure everyone is feeling threatened by at least one person other then the operson wanting to use the trinket? I also tried to open up with the trinket (attack a non-aggroed mob) and basically the same problem happened; I got control of the robot, non-elites and everyone else attacked me, i lose control, vanish to stay alive.

Kommentar von Thottbot

where can i buy this recipe?

im alliance

Kommentar von Thottbot

For Alliance: Go to tinker town in Ironforge and buy it from the engineer supplier

For Horde: Go to shimmering Flats and buy it off the engineer supplier(The Race Track)

Kommentar von Thottbot

i got level 10 on my gnome warlock with engineering .. lvled the engineering to 130 and decided to get this, - i built it, and decided to try it out at the harvest golems at westfall. Nothing happens, no 'immune' message, no stun, just a yellow sparkle and 'Entering Combat', as i run away getting chased by some angry robot...

This ofc, was only in my 6 first tries, i will keep on experimenting with it until it works

Kommentar von Thottbot

Can I watch tv with it?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Can this be used on any of the mechanical mobs in kara?

Kommentar von Thottbot

u get it in if at engineering supplies

Kommentar von Thottbot

dosnt work on fel reaver any more =(

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was wondering if this Remote Works on rorbots above your level.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does it works on Robots in Warsong Gulch and the Robots in Ashenvale ?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Note to Hunters, you must dismiss your pet first for this to work.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This thing is great, I just used it for the heck of it, it was fun to kill enemies with it =D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've tried this thing on the harvesters in Westfall numerous times, but it has NEVER worked properly for me. I'd say out of AT LEAST 20 tries, I've rooted the machine about 5 or 6 times. Every other time it simply agros.

On that note, it's a really handy device if a vulnerable member of your party is being chased by a mech.

Edited, Jan 5th 2007 4:30am by Vicvictorw

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This thing is very useful I am Lvl28 and I made One of these at LVL20.It has a chance to controll all mechanic units.I have captured the Sredder boss in the Deadmines with it.Some say you cannat do anything with the controlled units but I could.I have attacked the goblins around the sredder and killed 3of them than I lost controll,but it was fun:P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

how is tat finest if it only needs 125 engineering? + it can go rong

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If anyone would care to post a list here or on wow-wiki of what mobs this thing still works on, I'd be much obliged.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Very fun to mess around with, but unfortunately, I rarely find mechanical units I have to deal with. Nice to keep on you, but sometimes it just holds up a spot in your bags.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In AV some horde got the goblin shrdder and i had a couple of these and mced the shrdder.They kept it near the priests to protect them.When they died u could almsot read them saying wtf our priests go.....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You can use these in hell fire peninsula to control fel reavers. Its so addicting to do, but if they resist, or some are immune, they one hit u lol. So make sure you aren't wearing any gear. Also works on those annoying cannons, and lots of other mechs. A really insane trinket.The fel reaver was average hitting 1.2k's on mobs that I fought.

Pics for proof lol
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/darkiron7/?action=view&current=lolz.jpg
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/darkiron7/?action=view&current=roflcakes.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's funny. Everyone I've seen talk about this says it's a fun little toy, but has no practical use. Let me tell you, if you're in a group of 5 level 30s in Gnomeregan, this can get you through the harder parts of the instance. From my experience, it has about a 75% success rate, and it's only caused the machine to get really angry once or twice out of all my uses of it (which is quite a bit). Like I said, a GREAT help in the second half of Gnomeregan, but I can't say I can think of much other use for it.

On a side note, if you've never played a Hunter, you get to experience the thrill of taking complete control of another creature. Each machine has its own special ailities that you can play with too, which allows 3 things: (1) you get to tun its abilities on its buddies, (2) you san waste the abilities if they have long cooldowns right before you lose control of it, and (3) you get to see what it's capable of, letting you better prepare to fight it and future versions. My favorite "pet" is the Mechano-Flamestrider, with its FlameNova and Flamethrower-style attack.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Made one and also tested it on the harvest watchers in westfall, seemed to work 3/10 times and the times it did work it would just freeze them. I destroyed my remote shorty after.

I may make another in the furture and give it another shot.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I bought the schematics for this thing from a Merchant for around 19s.
After making it, I joined a party in Gnomeregan to test it out on some of the mech mobs there. The good news was that it has a good success rate, that bad news is that if you already have a pet; you'll only get a message "You already have control over a creature" or something along the lines of that.

However, the remote can also immobilize mechanical enemies; which saved my party numerous times.

Overall, I was disappointed that it's pretty much worthless for hunters; but it's still a great tool for non-Hunters and non-Warlocks. Plus it's a great toy. :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If your a Hunter or Warlock and have a pet out (Hunter aka outta stable)

You can not use it on anything mech =(. Useful in Gnome though for a short time.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This thing sounds fun but i wonder if i can use it without being an engineer?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

friend has it and i really want it but i cant find the schematic!AH or Dungeon!

Were does it drop?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was grinding dust devils in westfall when i decided that i should get out my engineer and try out the remote since for some reason i never did for the 10 or so lvls since i made one.

This thing is a blast! There's just something fun about using this to pit things against eachother.
However, it has a rather short distance you can walk around in, and the thing you controlled will come back after you when it's released and anything it was fighting will also come after you.

Also it has a 3 min cooldown, which isn't too bad.

If you've ever played a hunter, using this is like using Eyes of the Beast, just with a much shorter range... you can go a little over how far a hunter can shoot i think.

Kommentar von viperownsyou

used this thing 15 times on the harvest golems in westfall and nothing, i got an immune message from 1 of the golems and the others just had a sparkly animation, then walked over to start punching me in the face.

will continue testing.

17th use an immobilisation. (mob 3 levels lower than me)
21st use another immobilisation (~15 seconds root)

tested it another 35 times got 6 more roots, wasnt able to ever control one its kind of a $%^&ty trinket tbh.

Kommentar von lordkasner

blizz needs to nerf this thing, horde players being able to force flag with this should not be allow on a pve server too

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