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Kommentar von 60750

I smell druid tank item.

Kommentar von 42886

Edit: this was supposed to be in reply to Soundfx4 above, but logging in after reply apparently botched things.

Defence rating/skill provides mitigation in the form of slightly increased chance to block, dodge and parry and it also provides a reduced chance to be critically hit.

It is of course desirable to become immune to critical hits. This, in PvE, typically (there are a few mobs that have higher crit chances) requires 5% + 0.2% per level difference, ie 5.6% for a level 73 mob (eg raid boss). This is reached by 490 defence for warriors, which is why this number is often cited as a minimum defence skill for warrior tanks (it is also sometimes incorrectly referred to as a cap - this is not the case, although it is usually more beneficial to stack other attributes than defence once crit immunity has been reached).

For druids the numbers are different (I believe it is 415) and as druids cannot block (and possibly cannot parry either?) there is less mitigation in defence for them.

Resilience also reduces the chance to be critically hit, and you get more crit reduction for less points (since you do not get the mitigation). So resilience can be used to bridge the gap to reach crit immunity if you cannot get there through defence alone, eg because you lack gear or because you are wearing resistance gear for a specific encounter. Unlike defence resilience provides virtually no benefit once you have reached crit immunity. But it can serve as a filler in some scenarios.

Kommentar von Fallerup

would make an awsome PvP cloak too for any melee class (armor aside ofc. ) :D

Kommentar von Chickensoup

Druid tanking item. unfortunately its not as good as the semi-easy to obtain silkk's cloak and this boss is a pain in the rear to kill (as a matter of fact, druid tanks are probably the worst of the three as well because of zero magic mitigation). If you get this item, itll just be a delay item until you get the badges. which sucks, they could have put in a druid tanking piece into any number of other spots to be an upgrade going into t4 but chose to do it to a item slot that already has a ton of progression to gearing.

a bear tanking shoulder better than S1 shoulders would have been a very welcome addition for instance

Kommentar von Tals

I'm not going to debate that is IS a great druid tanking cloak, because it obviously is but I doubt it's the only purpose of it, or even the reason it was made.

This is an entry level PvP cloak for any class.

Kommentar von 7409

With the advent of tanking gear itemized with more avoidance and/or crush prevention stats, the resilience on this cape may make up the critical prevention difference for many who find themselves sub-490 or sub-415 defense. Additionally, I believe this is the cape that grants one of the highest marginal EH in the game.

Kommentar von 22635

Crushing blows ´<> Critical strikes?

like players crit you and resili helps on that
mobbs CB you and not a damm thing about resili can help it?

(just askin becouz thats what i spend the last year thinking)

Kommentar von 101790

If any of you have full pvp gear... go and fight a normal 70 mob, open your combat log and see if it ever crits you in bear form with +300 resilience. Resilience is for player crits only, mobs will not be effected by resilience at all. Every piece of pvp gear has more stam in general than its pve "item level" counterpart. You would be able to tank entirely in pvp gear if resilience mitigated crits in pve in any way.

Kommentar von 31126

You are absolutely wrong. Please go read up on Defense and Resilience.

Critical Hit immunity for a level 70 player against a raid boss occurs at 490 Defense and requires a defense rating of 330.4 from gear to achieve. Most classes have talents that increase the defense skill or reduce critical hit chance so less than 330.4 defense rating from gear will be needed for critical hit immunity.
Critical Hit immunity for a level 70 player against a raid boss can also be achieved by a Resilience of 5.6% and requires a resilience rating of 220.64 to achieve.
The critical hit % reduction from Defense and Resilience % may be combined to reduce the chance of being critically hit by a raid boss by 5.6% making the player immune to critical hits.

1% Resilience will:

Reduce chance to be crit by 1%
Reduce damage from all crits by 2%
Reduce damage from DoTs by 1%
39.4 resilience rating per 1% resilience at level 70

Kommentar von alfonzzo

no one's mentioned that the armor was reduced from the PTR so discussions above about 2200+ armor are moot. I forget the old number , but seem to recall it was in the 425 range. Now that it's 387 in live, it really doesn't come close to gilded or slikk's for bears.

Kommentar von 152127

FFs this thing never drops! I've been doing 10-11 normal runs and still hasn't droped!
Am i so ulucky or this droprate is wrong?

Kommentar von zackforester

Just to set the record straight. Slikk's Cloak of Placation is hand's down the best tanking cloak in the game for every tanking class, Druid, Paladin, Warrior. Top it all off with that it's hands down, the easiest of the cloaks you're discussing to acquire and the entire argument about this being a druid tanking cloak are moot. If you don't have Slikk's Cloak of Placation and you call yourself a tank, you should be ashamed of yourself. That aside, you can't say make sensationalist claims that this beats Gilded any way when that just isn't realistic. Based on a damage mitigation alone, gilded provides approximately .64% more damage avoidance at the sacrifice of 8 armor and 14.8 health. 24 Defense rating provides approximately .4% dodge/miss/crit reduction, while the resilience on this cloak that you swear by only provides .56% damage reduction in the form of crit reduction. Both cloaks are, in fact, superior to this one. Resilience is not better than defense, point for point and whoever gave you such a ridiculous misinformation clearly has no idea what they're talking about. Defense is the primary increase in avoidance for all tanks, second only to shield block rating increase but only providing partial damage reduction. The only reason bear tanks should choose to use resilience over defense is when they cannot find said gear. It is not mandatory by any means.

Kommentar von 64964

Resilience is not better than defense, point for point and whoever gave you such a ridiculous misinformation clearly has no idea what they're talking about. Defense is the primary increase in avoidance for all tanks, second only to shield block rating increase but only providing partial damage reduction. The only reason bear tanks should choose to use resilience over defense is when they cannot find said gear. It is not mandatory by any means.

You obviously don't have a grasp of tanking mechanics for druids.

Resilience is the best stat for crit immunity for bears, because a bear gains nothing from defense apart from crit immunity and doge - and agility is by far the best way to stack dodge for a bear.

A Druid doesn't get to parry or block, and should go for resilience over defense whenever possible, because resilience will get you more crit immunity for less itempoints - which means you get more stamina and agility (your other vital stats) as well as armor for the same itembudget.

After you reach 2.6% crit reduction (with 3/3 SotF) you only need worry about stamina and agility for avoidance. AP for threat will come naturally when you use any feral tanking weapon - be that earthwarden, staff of the forest lord, or wildfury greatstaff.

Kommentar von 151627

I actually think this is a nice cloak for pvp healers if you dont feel like spending 60 badges. Stamina is always welcome and the resilience aswell.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Good PvP cloak for almost any class; not a bad druid tanking cloak if you don't yet have Slikk's.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wow, this cloak is amazing for anyone in PvP. Especially those not yet decked in PvP gear!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dory's Embrace makes this redundant.. cept maybe for Dire Bear PVP.. lol?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This dropped for us on normal MT

The druid tank was very pleased ;)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this today on heroic. Too bad it's not as good as my old one; Royal Cloak of Arathi Kings

Kommentar von Thottbot

This cloak is amazing for a druid tank since that resiliance means less defence on everything else and more room for cool things like stamina and agility. The armor and stamina values are also very nice.

Kommentar von Thottbot

A great substitution to this cloak would be the easier to get Thoriumweave Cloak. This cloak has 3 less armor, and 4 less stamina than the Thoriumweave Cloak, but the resilience makes up for it.

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