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Kommentar von Nummytaterz

similar to Zin'rohk Destroyer of worlds in ZG this drops from Zul'Aman a upcomming BC raid located in Ghostlands its a 10 man raid for lvl 70s

Kommentar von 92181

This drops from Zul'jin,the last boss in Zul'Aman (10man instance in Ghostlands)

Kommentar von hezec

An educated guess would be that this is the model. (Cropped from http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/zulamanweap.jpg )

Kommentar von justinope

above is correct. vengeful gladiator's greatsword ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33688 ) shares the same graphic also, but with a different color tint. some may say this brings down the "coolness" level quite a bit.

Kommentar von duoh

anyone know where the red jinrohk graphic is from in this pic
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/zulamanweap.jpg

Kommentar von 9667

This is exceptionally insane for a Blood Elf Ret. Paladin using Seal of Blood, since it scales the best with + haste.

Kommentar von 99732

I'm not saying it will be easy, but it's damn nice you are actually able to get this kind of prim with 10man.

Kommentar von 33158

As an Arms Warrior, I'm not sure I'd switch from my Mercilesss Greatsword to this, even for PvE. The haste is nice and so is the AP, as well as the higher damage range.......but I'm not sure it's worth losing 18 hit and 42 crit. I guess if it drops I'll get it and try it out, but I am skeptical that it will perform better.

Now, take off the 49 stam and use those 32 stat points towards crit and/or armor pen and this would be a very sexy PvE sword.

Kommentar von 105369

Just thought this was kind of interesting as my guild was doing some mount runs in ZG that when I went back to the Zandalarr tribe to turn in the rep stuff that this sword has just one letter different than one of the npc's on the island his name is Jin'rokh, just a little tidbit

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=14902

I found it interesting

Kommentar von 24688

I just got this sword last night, and with no other haste rating, the 45 haste it gives brings it down from 3.70 speed to exactly 3.60

Just a bit of math for all you theorycrafters out there.

Kommentar von Duffles

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet. This is obviously the TBC version of Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds, a 2H sword which drops in Zul'gurub, a 20 man raid instance also filled with trolls.

Kommentar von rev087

As can be seen in Wowiki page for Zandali (the troll language), Jin means Leader, Zin means Destroyer and Rohk means End of World(s) (ie. "Apocalypse").

Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds

Kommentar von 33158

I dunno...I think I prefer season 2 for PVE...I'm not sure the hit and crit lost is worth the higher DPS and extra AP. Anyone tried this and think it's better than S2?

Kommentar von 112924

not to mention but i love its badass look...
simply amazing

Kommentar von Alucard

Reference to Jin-Roh anime? :D

Kommentar von 126756

The sceenshot with the hunter wielding this wep is disturbing to me...im vry annoyed...

Kommentar von 133334

3.70 - ( * .0285) = 3.647275 Swing Speed

( /2) / 3.647275 = 130.23421595574778430472064760677 DPS

Very nice for the grind through ssc and tk as an arms warrior or ret paladin. replaced in hyjal and bt.

Kommentar von 65050

This is a HIGHLY upgraded look-a-like of zin'rohk with some close looking at, you can see this.

Kommentar von Shoey

In all honesty, I still don't think it looks as good as "Big Z" :P

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19854

Kommentar von 101291

If you honestly believe that Blood Frenzy does not bring enough benefit to the raid to warrant taking up a slot, your guild is still probably stuck in Tier 5 content at this point.

Whilst i agree that Blood Frenzy is great for a 25man raid, this weapon drops in a 10man.
With 5 dpsers, you're likely to have only 1 melee dps, maybe 2, and as such, the 4% physical damage does not give that much of a benefit to the raid; fury is far superior for 10mans.

Kommentar von 169906

this sword is incredible on a warrior with a wf totem...it hurts...A LOT

Kommentar von Allakhazam

someone have picture?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I thought it should be spelled Rokh...
Anyway it's pretty nice for Hunters since PvE Warriors are bearly MS skilled, the Attack speed is a good combination with the slow Bow from Zul'jin

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Cool sword, good dps/speed and stats. Good for hunters, pallies and warriors with all that green too.

Nice homage to the Jin'Rohk as well!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The missing equip bonus is 45 haste rating, which is 2.85% at l.70. Really good sword; kinda like the twinblade, good for hunters in addition to warriors (also like the twinblade).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got it!
LoL very good sword!
Extreme DMG with a Fury/Arms Warrior

Kommentar von Allakhazam

why is it Zin'Rokh and Jin'Rohk?
or is it just a misspelling?

Kommentar von Thottbot

not trying to stick the hunter^&*! into this weapon cuz im not saying its a hunter weapon but does haste affect the ranged attack speed of a hunter?

Kommentar von Thottbot

mucho stam and slow attack speed means it would definitely be good for an MS warrior. i can't speak to much else because my only char is a warrior

Kommentar von Thottbot

reminds me of the ZG 2h sword off last boss called Zin'rokh something like that. Looks like it and names sorta the same

Kommentar von Thottbot

yes, this would make a good hunter weapon, but
all that hunters really look at is the stats on it, and a good hunter almost never melees, where as a ret pally or warrior, all they do is melee, making it more useful for melee classes.
570 top end damage is amazing for a 2H weapon, and it kills me to think that some hunter would be putting that to waste when a warrior could be using that every fight. as for your arguments that MS warriors are totally useless in raids, you are incorrect. like was stated before, they have the debuff that increases all physical damage taken by the target by 4%. on top of that, if you put them in a group with other warriors, they can stack shouts, and depending on the way they have specced (MS / fury so they have commanding presence), their shouts would be more effective than that of a purely prot specced warrior, which apparently is the spec everybody thinks that every warrior should be, despite the fact that MS and fury warriors make some of the best damage dealing classes in the game. or maybe, you all do realize that and are just jealous of that and possibly embarrased when you see that you are lower on the damage charts, so you all cry and say "nerf warriors to tanks blizz." in my opinion i think it is a load of bull^&*! when people say warriors aren't supposed to do dps, and the people who do say that are either

a) people who can't move past pre BC when all warriors did was tank

or

b) disgruntled players who are mad at the fact that they have inferior dps than the warriors arond them

anyway, i think it's a great weapon, and congradulations to whoever gets it

and that ends my ranting session for the day

Kommentar von Thottbot

Good for hunters, better for warriors and rets, and btw I have never been outdpsed by a hunter with similar gear level and I have been playing for 2.5 years as dps warrior...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes, hunters should be able to roll on this.

HOWEVER! This is primarily a retadin/arms war weapon. Do you see rogues/wars rolling on epic ranged dps weapons when the hunters need them? Highly doubt it. The classes that get the most use of an item should be prioritized, which amazingly - means the OP class that hunter is needs to realize they need to sit back and not roll on every piece of melee gear there is and let those that MELEE get their upgrades before them.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a Hunter, I would be against rolling for this unless no one except me needed it...

First 'o all, Trollbane is better but is indeed harder to get, but Trollbane oversteps this by a longshot...

Let the Warrior/Paladin get this, and then have them use that to rape the boss for your Trollbane... As if you have this then step it up for Trollbane, you just wasted alot of time...

If I had a good gun, another Hunter has a rifle that isn't as good as mine, I would let him have the upgrade, due to the increase of DPS for our raid that he would generate... Sure you loose a drop - But you get more DPS allowing you to raid Faster...

Hunters shouldn't get this, go for Trollsbane

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yup, Jin'rohk is awesome for us Retadins. I am deff going to replaced my Savagery Gorhowl with this, not sure if im going to get Mongoose or Savagery. Cuz its missing crit and already has AP.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The problem with the hunter class is that their are so many idiots out there that bring down our class and btw if a warrior using 2h wep is out dpsing a hunter then that hunter does not know how to play( a good fury warrior duel wielding is a different matter). Remember not all hunters are crap (90% probably are) and its unfair to have a dig at hunters that actually stack haste to get their ideal wep speed from a slow ranged wep. Remember haste mainly comes from BT/hyjal alot of players will not see them while they might well see and clear all of ZA (does not require 25 skilled players only 10) Theirs miles better weaps out there for warriors paladins and arguably hunters 2 specially the arena one but like I said if someones got their mind on stacking haste this would be the ideal melee wep for a hunter to go for. Enough said stop flaming hunters its not our fault majority of our class is other classes that failed rerolled and thought hunter would be ez mode :) .

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is an excellent hunter item (Stam+Haste+AP = hunter goodness!)!

As a dedicated prot warrior, I slapped on a minor beastslaying glow to it and wear it around town :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nice and slow. Just how we warrs like it. This swoed rox

Kommentar von Thottbot

Caervek while your statement carries some weight, it doesn't change the fact that Hunters are the only class (rare off-specs aside) that use 2h melee weapons in PvE primarily. Now, if a guild HAS this Blood Frenzy Warrior, and wants to gear them, as previously said, there are many other options available. If they are absolutely insistant on chosing a weapon that benefits Hunters greatly, then they should feel free to roll against them.

However, this whole "Warriors should get preference" thing is pure nonsense. Yes, Hunters use their 2h weapon for stats almost entirely, however those stats account for a great deal. In most cases, it's the weapon's stats, not the raw DPS, that you're after, whether you're a Warrior, Hunter or otherwise. Between our melee weapon(s) and our ranged weapon, we get, by far, the majority of our stats from the melee weapon(s). So how many classes do we have to pass to? 1h weapons to Rogues/Fury Warriors/Enhance Shamans and now all 2h weapons to 2h Warriors? I'm curious as to where Hunters are supposed to get this big chunk of stats we'd be missing (I'm guessing the scraps left over?). While the gain for this specific type of Warrior may be slightly higher than the Hunter's gain, to demand some sort of preference purely on that basis is wrong.

Besides all that, my argument isn't even that Hunters should get preference here; I'm saying it should be a roll off. That is, provided the Warrior will use it for PvE. Rolling on PvP gear in raids is unacceptable, in my opinion.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It is amusing in all honesty.

I would never roll on a bow despite its awesome stats vs a hunter, because regardless of how much I benefit from them as a warrior, a ranged weapon is a hunters primary weapon.

The stats are excellent for a hunter, but regardless of them a hunter will never melee in a PvE environment.

Retri pallies are raid viable. MS warriors are extremely raid viable and this weapon is excellent for both of them.

So if either is present and has a need for it. They should get prio over hunters hands down.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm and MS warrior and got this last week. Im not gunna flame hunters that want this. But I would like them to think twice befor rolling over and Ret/MS. There are far better 2H's for a hunter Trollbane, the Arena PvP one and legacy and I can't see why there are so many hunters begging for this. Any hunter that can down Zul'jin will be in possition to get one of the other 2H's, so i cant see why they would even wanna roll on this in the first place. As to much haste gear = a broken rotation. I realy wish Blizz would put Agi or Str on all 2H weapons so that there wouldnt be these silly arguements over them.

Kommentar von Thottbot

One of the above posters proposed that stormherald is significantly better because it is 3.8 instead of 3.7. Speed only matters because a higher speed requires higher top end damage to achieve the same amount of dps as lower speed weapons, which is useful for instant abilities. HOWEVER, speed ONLY matters insofar as it makes the top end damage higher. Stormherald's top end damage is 9 higher than jin'rohk, which is more than made up for by the extra attack power.

Kommentar von Thottbot

1. Anyone can lie about what class they play/like the most

2. "It's an upgrade" isn't the only thing you should be considering. If I had to choose between a hunter who attends all raids and an MS warr/ret pally who can only make one or two days it should go to the hunter (or they should at least be allowed to roll on it). This kind of gear isn't class specific for a reason, same as Trollbane. You would hope people would be mature enough by the point they're raiding ZA to put the benefit of their guild above being an epic ^&*!@

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