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Kommentar von 10732

Looks like the shield from ZG ''Aegis of the Blood God''
( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19862 )
And yes! it drops in ZA, the new instance in 2.3

Kommentar von intuit

not useless. I mentioned that it's great for 5man tanking. and for tanking bosses, its still not useless. its not something u look for over other tanking stats but its MUCH better than not having it. it CAN make a difference (small one). Due to things like server lag, very fast hitting bosses that eat ur shield block charges, huge strings of dodges/parries that leave u too rage starved to even hit block if even for a split second, dropping coffee on ur pants and not hitting shield block in time, etc - the extra passive block CAN help. Stop saying its totally worthless. Would it be way better if it had more block value or even more pure avoidance instead? yes, much. but the block rating is MUCH better than nothing.

edit: oh wait, ur one of those folks who thinks there is something magic about the number 25 when it comes to block%....all u need to be crush-immune (for two hits and for 5seconds) while shield block is active is 27.4% TOTAL dodge/parry/block (27.4+75 = 102.4%). if that's all ur going for, y not just sit at like 5% block cause im sure the rest of ur avoidance will (should) add up to more than that.

Kommentar von 93602

I've just been informed that this shield has a new model:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/mmoguildsites_gallery/img19338.jpg

Kommentar von 45811

Note that if you gem this with a purple (red or blue) gem instead of a blue, you gain 3 stamina bonus.

Aldori + solid star = 39 shield + 12 gem = 51 stamina
Bulwark = 42 shield + 6 gem + 3 bonus = 51 stamina

You can get a bit more avoidance and no stamina loss with

Shifting Nightseye: 4 agility
Defender's Tanzanite: 5 parry rating
Regal Tanzanite: 5 dodge rating

Kommentar von KainDarkfire

Tankadin Shield.

What? Paladins can't tank? Stack Shield Block Rating and then try it.

Kommentar von 119266

I agree that saying that Shield Block Rating is useless is very shortsighted. While I understand that the Shield Block ability grants you immunity to crushing blows, some bosses can eat up the charges faster than the cooldown, so as your gear improves, you may be tempted to aim for passive avoidance to crushing blows (102.4% chance to miss/block/dodge/parry). This is acheivable towards the end of T5 content.

Shield Block Rating provides a 1% chance for every 7.9 rating, so its your best stat to stack when working towards this goal and probably the reason why it's present on many of the T5 pieces. A tank gearing up in SSC and TK will be in the high 80's to low 90's combined miss/block/dodge/parry so this shield fits in well with that objective and would be an upgrade over Aldori Legacy Defender.

However, if you're not aiming for passive avoidance, I'd prefer the ALD for the extra hit rating, a stat not very common on tanking items.

Kommentar von 51839

Maybe a noob question, but how i know how much is my miss rating %.
For example i know that dodge/parry/block is around 60%, so i need that my miss is around 28%?
Where i can find this data to know when i reached the needed value?

Cheers

Kommentar von 47151

Although Intuit is right that getting passive block rating high enough such that having combined block, parry, dodge and miss chances above 87.6% will begin to reduce the chance for a crushing blow, most Warrior tanks working through T5 content (generally considered the first level this becomes possible) are probably going to be seeing numbers around 60%-70% without using Shield Block. Pre-T5 tanks are probably going to be at lower combined percentages.

Since the entire span from 70% (or lower) to 87.6% will not affect the chance of a crushing blow at all, unless you are very very close to 87.6% in your regular tanking gear I don't think it would be even worth considering swapping out gear in order to get above that level in order to reduce the chance of a crushing blow in the few circumstances that Shield Block is unable to cover for you. (If you are trying to do this to save Rage, then I would suggest even more strongly against this; tanking situations usually generate sufficient Rage to hold aggro without straining.) Stacking block rating is probably going to negatively impact other stats (in particular defense rating and Stamina, but also other helpful tanking stats such as hit rating and expertise) such that you are going to end up creating more problems than you solve by achieving this.

Finally, remember that although reducing the chance of a crushing blow from, say, 15% to 5% without using Shield Block may seem like a significant reduction, it is still leaving yourself open to a possible string of crushing blows and a resulting tank death. Unless it is an unusually fast-hitting boss such that using Shield Block still leaves you open to multiple crushing blows in a row (and I am aware of no boss with which this may be a problem excepting maybe if you get an unlucky string of parries on a particularly fast-hitting boss) I would strongly advise any tank to focus on stacking a good mix of tanking stats and not focus on getting passive immunity (or close to it) to crushing blows.

Kommentar von 53307

the shield looks like Transformer logo.

Kommentar von 33682

I have this shield and of course I love it, but I don't like the way it looks. It's too small for one thing. Also my character doesn't hold it in her hand; it's attached to her wrist like a buckler. Furthermore it isn't really attached, it 'floats' in the air a good two inches away from her arm.

Kommentar von 91894

This shield is a good stam/armor/SBV equivalence upgrade to the Aldori Legacy Defender. Also, the improved SBV helps to make up for TPS lost from the missing hit rating.

On a purely personal note, I am disappointed by the aesthetics (the shield is very small compared to the legacy defender), and the fact that it has shield block rating, which is a 'filler' item stat in almost all situations.

Kommentar von 37169

Shield from Dragonhawk:

Armour = 5400

Now if you are a defence spec warrior you will have 5 points in toughness which increases armour per item by 10%. So the total amount of armour would be:

5400 x 0.1 which would give you 540, now 540+5400 = 5940

For personal reasons the gem I would put into this shield would be +5 Parry +6 Stamina (Heroic Red Slot Gem).

So in total before adding the talents up the total stamina you would have including +18 stamina Enchant would be 69. So the total amount of Stamina including the talents etc would be

69 x 0.1 = 6.9 now 69 + 6.9 x 10 = 759 Health

For Tauren it would be 793 Health

From my point of view this is better than the Gruul shield but not by much, it all depends on the warriors gear really, if you do not have much +hit I would suggest going for Gruul's shield. but if you are okay for +Hit then go for this shield.

Kommentar von 170739

@ boliboy23
On a purely personal note, I am disappointed by the aesthetics (the shield is very small compared to the legacy defender), and the fact that it has shield block rating, which is a 'filler' item stat in almost all situations.

This shield doesnt have "warrior" tag on it, block rating is a desired stat for tankadins. Im sick of seeing warrior PoVs everywhere, especially on guides... (Not that that is the case here)

Kommentar von Thottbot

with all the fuss about hit rating and expertise rating that i have to now worry about, im happy theres a shield, i'll hopefully get soon, that will give me back the block value i've been sacrificing in the name of threat gain.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ehh...well most of the new gear now has block value and block rating sir. and also, block value is increased threat gain...

Kommentar von Thottbot

its great and all but look at the drop rate....
tats a hella lot of raids, plus u might not get if it droppes bc the other tank..... pretty much, its gunna be a long time till u get it tanks

Kommentar von Thottbot

this shield is awsome, it helps both warriors and pallys. the block value for aggro gain for warriors and the block rating for aggro gain for pallys. looking at these stats this is the best tanking shield there is. i know that illidan's shield is better in that it has more armor and stamina, but that has a lower drop rate in that you have to get to illidan and then hope it drops. and this shield has a higher block value = more damage blocked and more damage done with shield slam = more aggro = less likely to wipe. i would love to get this shield for my pally, the block rating plus holy shield, BoSanc, redoubt, and a shield spike great damage and aggro gain. i know some warriors that would love to get this as well. so if both me and a protect warrior is in a group then it is up to the dice to see who gets it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was lucky enough to get it on our first kill. I had been after the shield from Gruul for months until this beauty dropped.

Great stats and great shield. I actually used the Defenders Tanzanite gem (+5 parry +6 stam) and picked up the socket bonus of +3 stam. I was willing to sacrifice a little bit of stamina for additional stats.

Hands down the best reason for a tank to head into ZA.

Kommentar von Thottbot

no def? yes very nice stats but why no def

Kommentar von Thottbot

No Def? Maybe because at this point in raiding your def should be where you need it, now its time to start stacking the block value and stuff. Def should be at top before even starting kara and this is a post kara raid. With just my gear alone and all gems at + stamina, I still am over 500 defense as a prot warrior. Now I need my block, dodge, parry up more.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Good old ZG skin returns!

Kommentar von Thottbot

new design since last patch

Kommentar von Thottbot

this dropped, and a mage ACCIDENTLY needed it and won it, i hope he nether got a raid group together again.

Kommentar von Thottbot

sad :S

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got it from first kill on my warrior. :)
Looks awesome and a great upgrade from Nightbane's shield.
And it didn't matter about lack of defense. Still 500.
Best place to socket the +15 stam gem from the Tuskin' Raiders/Troll Among Trolls/Playin' with Dolls questline. I won't likely be replacing this shield for a while.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Group:
Healers: Shaman, Priest, Paladin
Tanks: MT Paladin (me), Druid
DDler: Hunter, Rogue, Elemental-Shaman, Mage, Warlock

We had a great run and almost made 3 timed loots doing the bosses in this order: Nalorakk, Jan'Alai, Halazzi, Akil'Zon(clumsy wipes on the way to Jan'Alai, otherwise we would have easily made the timed loot. Time ran out in fight with Halazzi)

Anyway, all bosses down on their first try and now for part of the pretty interesting loot:
Jungle Stompers at Nalorakk (already had them, gave them to the Pally healer for 2nd equip)
Stone Resolve Shoulders on 1st time loot (already had them, gave them to the Pally healer for 2nd equip)
THIS BABY OF A SHIELD ON JAN'ALAI!
Amani Punisher on Akil'Zon

Now somehow the loot had been fully fitted to a Pally Tank.

I was a really lucky bastard if you look at the droprate of the stuff. The Shoulders are the lowest drop chance on the Nalorakk chest, the Shield has the lowest at Jan'Alai and so does the Amani Punisher (best Pally Tank weapon till Hiyal).

This Shield is awesome and arguably even better than Kaz'Rogals Hardened Heart (depending on other equip). Socketed it with +5 Spelldmg / +6 Stamina gem.

Watch out not to lose too much defense. When in ZA equip and switching the T4 Shoulders for the Stone Resolve ones, I do equip the T4 Gloves replacing the Maiden ones to keep +spell dmg / set bonus (with helmet). If I go for max avoidence, i forget about the t4 set bonus (aggro is high enough in boss fights) and use the bonefist gloves for badges. This brings my defense rating down to 492 (yikes!) so you really have to watch out when you equip the ZA stuff that you don't lose your un-critability. in Max avoidence I now get (unbuffed) around 22.9 dodge, 18.9 Parry 24.5 block AND: 15.1k life unbuffed!

I love ZA!

Oh... by the way: we downed the Hexlord as well after loads of wipes. He can be easy, once you down all adds except one and the Group knowes exactly what happens when a certain class is soul-drained. We had a hell load of luck having the hunter soul-drained most of the time and sometimes the rogue. Just before he died, he drained the Paladin (I also want a consecration that ticks for 3k ;-).

We then took a look at Zul'Jin:

Seriously: for him we will need a hell load of tries and possible the dds/healers need to stack stamina equip... He is a #$%^& and kills your DDlers in the Lynx-Phase like nothing. We thought the Hexlord was hard but Zul'Jin is a totally different level. He somehow aggroes dds with the lynx and that seems un-tankable. All you seem to be able to do is heal through and BoP. It was a slaughter. Any hints?

Kommentar von Thottbot

4 Healers will help, believe me

Kommentar von Thottbot

I get pretty upset when i see people in blue gear and with this shield or with Aldori shield. According to this site, shield is a 9.1% run, which means that over the period of 30 runs(that i've done) the chances of me not seeing it are .91^30 ~~ 6% chance of me not seeing it.

Well, i am sitting at this 6% right now. When i've done around 50 runs, the chance drops to about 0.9%, and i think i might make a ticket about that.

Havent's seen it drop.

Kommentar von Thottbot

this i8s really nice looking shield

Kommentar von Thottbot

Iwas extremely lucky when it came to aquiring this shield. This is sithblade BTW...i posted a pic lol. I got this baby on my first ZA run...full clear BTW. I guess I'm just lucky when it comes to gear dropping...I also aquired the Mallet of the tides on my first lurker kill. This shield is amazing...not necessarily better then the legacy depending on what stat ur stacking but all in all it is a kickass shield one which I dont see myself replacing for awhile.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I would say he is VERY easy. Me and my guide did him no problem with 2 healers (Priest, Druid)

Pala take is almost req here on 35% when he spawn all the remaining adds

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got this beauty on my prot warrior today, enchanted it with 18sta and a Regal Nightseye gem in the socket so i get the 3sta bonus

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've been farming this shield as often as i can, but it just won't drop when im in there.. (it of course drops when my guild does another run that im not in, so at least two of the other tanks have it)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Getting the shield.
===========================
If you have acquired the shield, congratulations, this is the best paladin shield pre-BT and second best warrior shield pre-BT, second only to Kaz'Rogal shield.

If you have not acquired the shield, form your own group and keep running the instance, took me 35 ZA runs and about 10 bears to get it to drop.

Enchanting the shield
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The only two situations you should put a notorious stam gem into this beauty and enchant with stam:
a) You have all blues besides this shield.
b) You are an MT in Black Temple.

In all other cases, put a gem for a socket bonus, enchant this shield with shield block value(especially as warrior), shield block rating, a damn felsteel spike, but not the stam.

Reason for enchant
============================
Chances are, at this point in the game(unless a or b), your party does not wipe due to your health hitting 0. You wipe because you lost aggro or because you could not handle a multi-mob accidental pull.

With current abundance of badge dps gear, a tank must strive to make his damage dealing teammates not even look at the threat meter.

Think about it, if your health never drops below a certain high % of your healthbar(say 30%) what is the reason of adding more stamina if your are not tanking BT?

If above statement is true, then adding 18 stamina enchant to your shield is like adding an enchant that heals you for 200 ONCE per instance. Adding 18 block value is adding thousands of shield slam damage per instance and thousands of damage blocked per instance.

Uses of this shield
===========================
Two words: passive uncrushable.
High block value...block rating...hey this fits passive uncrushable shield better than any shield before Sunwell Plateau.

Therefore, another reason to enchant it with block value or block rating and a mitigation gem...Make that passive uncrushable set for yoruself and go solo some tiger/panther ZG bosses and Garr in MC.

Profits from the shield
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From a warrior perspective:
* countless 30 minute heroic instance runs without any CC
* chance for tiger mount
* chance for legendary bindings
* numerous "My UI is bugged, you dont show to take any damage on my screen" tells from healers

Kommentar von Thottbot

damn i want this, and the other 5 tanks in guild are also going for it... feel sry for the one that stands in the way of the tanks if this loot

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