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Kommentar von 25321

i suppose this recipe drops in SCC, or the EYE

its so nice for a spirit healer, (priest as druids now have decent leather spirit gear)

Kommentar von 50310

Recipe is a drop from SSC trash, added in 2.1

Kommentar von Tsark

In my previous comment, I had forgotten about a few alternatives, so here's a more structured approach of comparison:

1. Primal Mooncloth Belt (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=21873)
Assuming a Royal Nightseye and a Dazzling Talasite: +13 sta, +10 int, +22 spi, -4mp5, +10 healing
Assuming a Solid Star of Elune and a Dazzling Talasite: +31 sta, +10 int, +22 spi, -6mp5, -1 healing
Possible loss of set bonus, which means a deeper loss of mana regen

2. Cord of Belief (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27542)
Assuming a Royal Nightseye and a Dazzling Talasite: +13 sta, -1 int, +13 spi, -4mp5, +45 healing
Assuming a Solid Star of Elune and a Dazzling Talasite: +31 sta, -1 int, +13 spi, -6mp5, +34 healing

3. Cincture of Will (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28652)
Assuming a Royal Nightseye and a Dazzling Talasite: -11 sta, -6 int, +8 spi, +4mp5, +32 healing
Assuming a Solid Star of Elune and a Dazzling Talasite: -+7 sta, -10 int, +8 spi, +2mp5, +21 healing

4. Cord of Sanctification (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29250)
Assuming a Royal Nightseye and a Dazzling Talasite: -12 sta, -2 int, +33 spi, -3mp5, +29 healing
Assuming a Solid Star of Elune and a Dazzling Talasite:-+6 sta, -2 int, +33 spi, -5mp5, +18 healing

So, imho,
a. If you have the Cord of Belief or the Primal Mooncloth Belt, you're better off keeping the one you have as your main gear, and use the Long Road as your stamina gear, with a solid star of elune
b. If you use a Cincture of Will, you should probably equip this belt with a Royal Nightseye, and keep the Cincture of Will as your stamina belt
c. If you use a Cord of Sanctification, the Long Road has equivalent mana regen while casting and better while not casting (33 spi = 20.63mp5 out of casting, 3.09 in casting) with a Royal Nightseye (Note that with BoK, Spirit of Redemption, Spiritual Guidance and Imp Divine Spirit the benefits of spirit increase - with all the talents and BoK, it's 23.82 mp5 out of casting, 3.53 in casting, and +11 healing). At the same time, in its stamina configuration, the Belt of the Long road gives 6 more sta, 18 healing and only 2mp5 less. I would say in this case it really depends on your playstyle.

Note that of course I did not consider all the other options this belt gives you if you ignore the socket colours. In brief, I think this is an interesting belt precisely because the sockets allow you to change its use for less than 100g (depending on how cheaply gems go on your server)

Kommentar von Jellibean

Belt does not look like picture shown above with the girl in the Primal Mooncloth shoulders - at least not anymore. Had a guildie make me the belt this evening and was expecting to get that awful looking thing and was rather pleased to find something much more pleasing. The Belt of the Long Road is now a really nice match for the Incarnate Robe visually, on top of being a fantastic healing belt for non-tailors like myself. A Royal Nightseye and a Luminous Noble Topaz, coupled with spiritual guidance talent for priests put the healing of this belt at right around +110 alone. Very nice.

Kommentar von manub

Had mine crafted today, put a Royal Nightseye (9heal 2mp5) and a Dazzling Talasite (4int 2mp5) on it. Probably the best choice for non-tailor priests until you reach BT/HS.

With the upcoming spirit buff in 2.3 patch for priests (Meditation now let you regen 30% of your normal mana regeneration while casting, instead of 15%), this is a definitively good item.

Kommentar von shortleif

Well I'm in full mooncloth set atm, but I'm fixing this belst since I'm gonna switch to the t5 shoulders as soon as they drop. The lack of stamina on primal mooncloth is a BIG miss imo. Priests are fragile enough. Also the mentioned change to regen through spirit in 2.3 will make the spirit even more useful.

Kommentar von 24111

It's a match for priest's T5.

Kommentar von royale

Belt of the Long Road vs. Primal Mooncloth Belt
Updated for 2.3 (30% Meditation)

These numbers are calculated with 3/3 Meditation and 5/5 Spiritual Guidance.

Primal Mooncloth Belt w/ 2 Royal Nightseye
101.75 Healing (2.75 from Spirit, 18 from gems, Eqiup: 81)
18.87 Mp/5 Not casting (6.87 from Spirit, 4 from gems, Equip: 8)
14.06 Mp/5 (2.06 from Spirit/Meditation, 4 from gems, Equip: 8)

Belt of the Long Road w/ Royal Nightseye and Luminous Noble Topaz
106.25 Healing (8.25 from Spirit, 18 from gems, Equip: 73, 7 socket bonus)
22.62 Mp/5 Not casting (20.62 from Spirit, 2 from gem)
8.18 Mp/5 (6.18 from Spirit/Meditation, 2 from gem)

Belt of the Long Road w/ Royal Nightseye and Luminous Noble Topaz would give:

+4.5 Healing
+3.75 Mp/5 Not casting
-5.88 Mp/5

or, if using a Dazzling Talasite:

-4.5 Healing
+5.75 Mp/5 Not casting
-3.88 Mp/5

So, looking at the healing stats alone, having to socket a yellow gem in it for the full healing bonus really hurts it's final numbers when comparing it to the Primal Mooncloth Belt. It has stamina, but you have to decide if the loss of mp/5 and/or healing is worth the extra 130 hitpoints.

(Note that the numbers above were calculated assuming that the Primal Mooncloth Belt was the ONLY piece of the set being worn. Belt of the Long Road is not a complete upgrade over the Primal Mooncloth Belt in any circumstance, as you will always lose out on mp5 and possibly healing depending on how you socket.)

Kommentar von wuaffiliate

What you are missing completely is the fact that this belt is for those who progress PAST the PMC stage, when you get into T5 content and you can no longer keep your PMC set bonus making the rest of the set pretty mediocre in comparison to the other options available to you.

I have this made simply for when i win my T5 shoulders and the ZA robes, making it all arround better than PMC.

Kommentar von vexis58

I have been using Cord of Braided Troll Hair on my priest since ZA came out, but decided to get one of these crafted instead. With the changes to spirit-based mana regen in 2.4, spirit will become so much better than mp5, and this belt has a lot.

I socketed it with a Sparkling Star of Elune for even more spirit and a Luminous Noble Topaz in the yellow slot.

Kommentar von 134502

In patch 2.4 this item is said to be changed but I dont see where is says how it is being changed.
Where is that information listed.

Kommentar von veno3

Would this be acceptable on a resto druid?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

looking for this to be crafted for me

Mal Ganis
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Shiznizzle

Kommentar von Thottbot

New stats.
121 armor
+13 stamina.
+18 intellect.
+33 spirit.
Increase healing by 77.

Gem-colour and socket bonus stays the same.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've tried to work out a direct comparison of mp5 to spirit for druids. I've used a few assumptions:
1) you pop innervate once during the fight (on yourself)
2) you have 3 talent points in intensity(i.e. 15% mana regen while casting)
3) 8min. boss fight
4) No additional mana regen triggers (eg. bangle of endless blessings proc).
5) You spend the entire fight within the 5 second rule (I'm probably under rating spirit a bit based on these last 2 assumptions, but oh well)
6) This overlooks the value your tree of life aura (if you heal in tree form) derives from your spirit, or any other spirit based buffs.

So, in an 8 minute fight X spirit will give you:
Intensity Regen + Innervate Regen
= X/4.5 x .15 x 8x60/2 + X/4.5 x 4.85 x 20/2 (since mana regen ticks every 2 seconds, and druids receive X/4.5 spirit per tick outside of the 5 second rule...use 4.85 for innervate since we have the other .15 contribution counted already with our intensity calculation)

Likewise, in an 8 minute fight Y mp5 will give you Y x 8x60/5 (i.e. 8min x 60sec/min / 5 sec)

We want to see at what point these two are equal so we have:
X/4.5 x .15 x 8x60/2 + X/4.5 x 4.85 x10 = Y x 8x60/5

Rearrange and you have: X = 5.11Y
Which means that you need 5.11spirit to equal one point of mp5, all of the assumptions holding true. Obviously you have to assign some value to the +heal tradeoff issue, you might get out of the 5 second rule a bit, and in a shorter fight with 1 innervate or a longer fight with 2 innervates spirit becomes more valuable. Personally, I view a fair tradeoff when weighing these subjective quantities to be about 4 spirit = 1 mp5, but use your own discretion. Of course, when considering other stats and itemization points, 1 mp5 = 2.5 points, 1 spirit = 1 point, which makes mp5 unquestionably more effecient in terms of utilization of item level.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Man, being a holy priest without tailoring makes it so hard to get a good healing belt. This belt is about as good as the Primal Mooncloth Belt, and it's not easy to get when people who have this pattern are $%^&*!ed and charge 2k gold per nether vortex for crafting it. I guess I'll be stuck with my Cord of Belief for a good long while longer.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's discouraging to come to Thottbot for helpful input and instead find arrogant criticism most likely written by the same folks who spam the Trade channel with insults directed at other players and the same tired jokes about a certain actor and a certain weapon. Thank God some WoW players are actually mature, intelligent people too, making it possible to tolerate the moron nation just enough to get by.

Many people rolled their toons and chose professions long before the Primal Mooncloth specializataion existed. For example, Herbs/Alchemy is an ideal trade for healers, especially if they have other toons as they will all benefit from these skills. And unlike a tailoring profession that only benefits cloth wearers, all guildees and friends can enjoy the Alchemist's talents too. Let's not forget Alchemy Discoveries, also a very nice perk.

Giving up an all-around useful profession for the sole purpose of respeccing to tailoring to make just 3 pieces of gear is not an attractive option. This is especially true when you consider how much crafting time would be spent for the mooncloth cooldown before you could even equip the gear.

Having acccess to Belt of the Long Road and other items like it is very helpful in gearing a non-tailor priest. No, it is not exactly comparable to Primal Mooncloth, but the people who wish to have it crafted will invest plenty of time, effort and gold to get it. That's their business.

There's no need to be rude or judgmental about it. How sad that common courtesy and simple etiquette are so lacking in WoW.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Very nice belt, learned the pattern few days ago and crafted one myself... including the boots (Loot reaver drop ftw), the both items indeed are a improvement to whatever you may find out there till u adventure into MH/BT.

- Azzrael.Kul Tiras.EU

Kommentar von Thottbot

could you actually sell this 4 2k gold? that woul;d be almost pure profit

Kommentar von Thottbot

opinions for resto shammies?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just saw this baby on the AH for 1.2k gold. My priest, who has the worst luck of all characters I've seen, has run kara and heroics with NO such luck for an epic or even blue belt! I've epics in nearly every other slot..and then there's my lovely green belt of the Physician! I had the extra gold lying around so i said...why not?
Now, how should I gem this baby? =]

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a side note, this belt (and the corrisponding boots)
match T4 priest set, for all of you out there who like to have matching gear.

Kommentar von Thottbot

what would be some good gems I know the 9healing 5spirit is best for the blue socket but what about the yellow?

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