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Kommentar von 21721

Very nice tanky wep. If i ever see a rogue using this i will laff :P

Kommentar von 23137

Easy to get, in my opinion at least, Shattered Halls is around 1.8k Rep a run, by the time you finish all the quests you can be 50% into honored.

If you want to take it a step further, farm Blood furnace until honored, then quest, and you should be well into revered.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31071

is a great alternative.

Kommentar von 7707

Crystaline Khopesh is a quest reward, which just lower dps but better stats. This sword seems pretty pointless

Kommentar von Phegan

Honestly, by the time you have the rep for this, unless you haven't been attempting to get items, you will have 490+ def. I have currently 493 and I am not even 1/2 into Revered, nor is my gear anything exceptional. My current weapon is Grom'tor's charge, which is less defense, but much more stamina. Since I no longer have a need for higher defense, this isn't the worlds best item. Though, it is good if you can drop defense elsewhere to get more stamina/redux, but it might not be worth it.

Kommentar von 46559

This is the beast to use till you get the uber beast, Grom'tors is the off hand tanking weapon for when you want to have fun and DW the trash mobs. When its boss time, this is the baby.

Kommentar von 30693

As most of us know, there are two or three ways to obtain exalted with HH from revered.

1. Run alot of shattered halls.
2. Heroic Blood furnace, ramps, and shattered halls.
3. PvP, and if possible, HH quests.

I attempted heroic ramps ( wasnt too hard ) and recieved https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27476.

As far as im concern, that mace is better than Honor's Call.

Truncheon of Five Hells
-1 Defense
+7 stam
+8 Hit rating

If your able and have time to run Heroic Ramparts, Truncheon of Five Hells is a much better tanking weapon than Honor's Call.

Kommentar von 10620

Virtually all level 70 epic items are being changed (either buffed or rebudgeted) in 2.1 now. All of the heroic 5-man epics are receiving buffs, some minor, some major.

Stats for Honor's Call in 2.1:
102-190 Damage, 1.80 Speed (81.1 DPS, or +2.2DPS)
+13 Stamina (+1)
+16 Defense Rating
+8 Hit rating (+2)

Kommentar von 57081

Typically not a good rogue weapon due to it being too fast for a MH and too slow for an OH (Poison procs & Combat potency both benefit from a fast weapon)

Kommentar von Falkor

strange how the Thrallmar exalted axe https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29165 is worse than HH sword here, less hit and stamina, albeit a very small difference but shouldnt the two be identical considering their practially the same rep, just diff. faction?

Kommentar von 10620

I was excited to be close to getting this until I realized that this item's budget is wasted on DPS.

The Truncheon of Five Hells (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27476#M0z) is better in literally every single way outside of DPS.

Kommentar von 79440

Comparing the stats on this sword to Crystalline Kopesh you get....

- 5 Stamina
- 5 Hit Rating
+ 4 Defense Rating

...And an extra 20.9 dps.

Kommentar von 91894

This has more top end damage than King's Defender and Sun Eater, making it better for devastate off-tanking.

Kommentar von 50031

Seen some weapons where mongoose doesnt show, anyone know if it shows on this one?

Kommentar von 53225

paladin tanking is all about spell damage. if you want, go ahead and wear warrior armor, but a spell-damage weapon is a MUST. The blue apexis shard sword from Ogri'La is far superior, as well as the arena spell damage maces.

as far as a paladin tank goes, on a weapon you want tons of spell damage and as much stamina as you can find - any other stats are simply a bonus. you should have more than enough defense/block/parry/dodge among the rest of your armor.

let's face it, even for most warriors, brute DPS on the weapon is often more favorable to tanking stats, as long as it has a lot of stamina to help out.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For revered to exalted, 1.5k per Shattered Halls translates to at least 16 runs for non-humans. You can get Honor Hold Favor but it goes away on death so make sure your group is good :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In order to get to exalted its quite simple but i imagine time consuming.

Rep from nuetral to just upto Honoured u can get by purely killing mobs in Hellfire Ramparts & Hellfire Blood Furnace instances. Once u hit 5999/6000 u cant get anymore rep off trash/bosses in these instance. So go do all the quests in Hellfire Peninsula espicially the ones from Honour Hold (obviously).

I did this an am 7926/12,000 omw to revered.

To get from Honoured to Exalted is also an easy concept but will involve the ineveitable grind. You need to 1st go get the key to the Shattered Halls instance of Hellfire citadel. Then go do this instance lots & lots & lots. ITs a lvl 68-70 instance and the trash mobs an bosses will be your only way to get rep upto exalted.

I recommend doing a little pvp in Hellfire Pen and handing in some tokens for the item that gives u the rep gain buff for 30 mins an use it as u enter Shattered halls to speed things up =)

Happy Rep Grinding chaps.

/Kloud - Bronzebeard EU

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i just reached honored and i plan to get this but it seams that past that mosters stop giveing me rep do i need to farm pvp rewards for rep or whatplz respond.

Edited, Feb 16th 2007 7:32pm by siecocrazey

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i'm already half way to revered with honor hold its just as easy as Argent Dawn each orc you kill in Hellfire Citadel intsnces you get some rep for and its lots of quests at honor hold atm my warr is using the blue swords same npc sells "Footman's LongSword"

Kommentar von Allakhazam

honor hold exalted? maybe easier to gank naxx for a few dps less

Kommentar von Thottbot

But it got about 30% more DPS than the crystalline.

Kommentar von Thottbot

it has better speed then kopesh 2.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There are but Grom'Tors Charge is not even close.

67.2 dps vs. 78.9 dps

If you're tanking with Grom'Tors Charge you better hope the rogues in your party have weapons just as lame or you'll have a hell of a time keeping mobs off them. For melee clases 10+ dps means end of story, no comparison. If you want stats get some gems or enchants.

An easier weapons to get that is just as good is the Aldor's Vindicator Brand. It's kind of a fun rep grind.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Sun Eater grab this case closed. I did and i wont ever have to waist my time with countless amount of runs getting rep for honors call. Its also probably the hardest to get rep with, and if you think your gonna be slick and run some heroics to get rep faster when revered with HH you are sadly mistaken. Blood Furnace is bugged out the #$%^&*!...2nd boss cant target the waves you need to kill to beat him, died 13248924290 times cause of that stupid !@#$. Blizz still hasnt fixed it btw. and also Heroic ramparts is a joke unless your tank is deckd out with epic fire resist gear. soo realistically your stuck with painful runs at Shatt halls trying to find the perfect cc for it every time you go there is loads of fun ...sigh

Kommentar von Thottbot

Coming in patch 2.1.0 They are supposedly buffing all the rep items like consortium, Honor Hold, Sha'Tar, etc. I am hoping that the Honor's Call will get better stats, but still the only thing confirmed is that they are buffing the Lvl. 70 Rep Items, thats all :(

We can Only Hope :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

it is ^&*!@#edly important to have DPS on your weapon as a tank.

you will never hold hate over geared players with grom'tor. you just CANT. Your threat per second is just too low. You can get mods to calculate this, but you can easily see that grom'tor doesn't measure up by looking at these innate threat values (taken from warrior forums hosted by blizz)

Shield Slam: 307
Revenge: 200
Devastate: 101
Sunder Armor: 301
Heroic Strike:196

those are INNATE threat values, they are the same regardless of weapon. HOWEVER: Your damage generates threat, 1 damage = 1 threat. This is true for everyone, before class reduction.

Example:
if your shield slam crits for 900, it will generate 1207threat. (Because of innate bonus)

Example:
A player in your party is doing 400dps. before threat reduction from abilities or innate reduction based on class, that is 400threat per second. As this dps goes up, it is harder to hold hate, clearly.

Spamming your abilities, your innate threat per second caps. You NEED BETTER WEAPONS in order to tank for players with better gear. Anyone who says otherwise has not played with geared players.

Kommentar von Thottbot

when your honoured you get a 10% reduction, 90% of 201 is 180.9. So rounded that would give you 181

Kommentar von Thottbot

whats the quickest wat to get my honor hold faction to exhalted from honored, totally clues in the lower zones fatioc quests?

Kommentar von Thottbot

how would i get my rep with this guys up reallt fast to enough to buy this?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Forgeting the STATS ( or lack there of )...it's a very "classic" looking sword, much better than the freaky cartoon blades everyone else seems to prefer.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yeah, so is running Shatt Halls and heroic ramparts the only way to get rep up to exalted, or is there an easier way?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I ran Shattered Halls a ton of times to get exalted. Just get your daily tower quest done first and go in with the banner from the quartermaster.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Doing rev--->exalted atm, and sticking to normal Shattered Halls, since its fast and gives 1760 something pr run (human).

Fast easy runs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

how would Mongoose look on this sword?

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