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Kommentar von 31890

Can anyone tell me how this staff with the Spirit would compare to lets say Shard Of the Virtuous or Lights Justice paired witht he Cenarion Expedition offhand. With this said i am a Holy spec'd priest

Kommentar von 17987

Remember that you can swap weapons in combat. Weapons like this with very high spirit are useful to swap to when you get innervated, while you're regenerating mana and not casting, or during your darkmoon "blue dragon" card proc.

When the innervate is over or when you resume casting or when the proc is over, switch back to your normal weapons.

Kommentar von 34171

Perhaps it's just me, but I find that Staves tend to be better than a Mace/Dagger and off-hand for healers. While you may end up with more healing/mana regen, you run the risk of being low on your base stats (especially if you're a priest with Primal Mooncloth pieces). Definitely a nice staff, hoping to get it to replace my Serpentcrest-Lifestaff.

Kommentar von Kothaz

this staff says resto druid all over it.

Kommentar von 26034

A beautifull staff for long boss fights, i want it...and ill put spirit ench on it, no doubt

Kommentar von 57857

The Spirit on this staff is perfect for Trees, unfortunately, that extra dose of Spirit is eating up most of this item's point allocation.

Compared to Light's Justice & Signet of Unshakable Faith, the Nightstaff gives

Spi: +13 (15 with talents)
Int: -8
Stam: -2
Heal: -71

The difference in Int and Stam is negligible, so you'll have to decide if 15 Spi is worth more than 71 Healing. If you don't think so, this staff is still great for Innervates (with a 20 Spi Enchant).

Kommentar von 59166

'optional' last boss of karazhan.

Kommentar von 79477

A Holy Priest's perspective on this staff:

Bottom line, I think it's generally terrible compared to a main hand/off hand combination, except for mana regen purposes (i.e. Innervate).

Comparisons to Light's Justice or Shard of the Virtuous, and Aran's Soothing Sapphire or the Signet of Unshakeable Faith (Signet's my favorite over the Orb, and I don't wanna do 6 comparisons...).

Assumes: 25% of spirit goes to +heal from talents, 10% more from Imp DS, and 5% extra spirit from Spirit of Redemption. This analysis will be similar (but not the same) for ToL Druids.

For purely comparative purposes, I'm using the following conversion for mp5 -> spirit: 1 mp5 = 3.5 spirit. I use RegenFu in weekly Kara clears which tracks my time in the Five Second Rule throughout the night, and figures in Meditation. RegenFu usually says 1mp5 = 3-4 spirit, so I'm going with 3.5. Your mileage may vary.

Example calculation of spirit difference: item 1 has 5 mp5, item 2 has 18 spirit. Which is better?

5 mp5 = 3.5 * 5 = 17.5 spirit
18 spirit becomes 18*1.05 = 18.9 spirit with 18.9 * 0.35 = 6.615 +heals.

Clearly, item 2 is better.

Finally, I've rounded to 1 digit.

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Compared to Light's Justice + Aran's Soothing Sapphire, this has...

+17 sta
-9 int
+2.5 mp5
-72.1 +heal

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Compared to Light's Justice + Signet of Unshakable Faith, this has...

-2 sta
-8 int
+3.9 mp5
-66.2 +heal

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Compared to Shard of the Virtuous + Aran's Soothing Sapphire, this has...

+11 sta
-8 int
+2.5 mp5
-30.8 +heal

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Compared to Shard of the Virtuous + Signet of Unshakable Faith, this has...

-8 sta
-7 int
+3.9 mp5
-24.9 +heals

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In every case (especially the first two) I would personally choose the MH/OH combo over this, since I really, reallly doubt 1 mp5 is even close to 15 +heal in effective heals done.

I'd also like to say that, using my previous comparison, the Shard's 6 mp5 and Light's Justice's 20 spirit give the *exact same* regen, and LJ's pure spirit gives an extra 7.4 +heals. Since LJ has 6 less stamina, 1 more int, and a whopping 41.4 more +heals, I would say LJ >> Shard for holy priests/druids (I never understand priests who could have either and go with the Shard).

Kommentar von 23639

The 2.3 patch makes this staff much more effective for Priests and Druids.

For a priest in a raid (assumed Improved Divine Spirit, Blessing of Kings and Spirit of Redemption talent)

55 spirit x 1.05 x 1.10 = 63.5 spirit

63.5 x 0.35 = 22.2 Spell Damage and Healing

63.5 x 5 / 8 = 39.7 mp5 outside the 5 second rule

63.5 x 5 / 8 * 0.3 = 11.9 mp5 in the 5 second rule

Assuming 75% FSR time, that's 18.85 mp5 for this staff, eclipsing most MH/OH combos which stress mp5 instead of spirit. (Light's Justice is also equivalently buffed, maintaining its lead over this staff)

Kommentar von 99427

With Patch 2.3.... I'd say any of the MH/OH combos, along with this staff are all going to get you the +Heal, STA, INT, SPI/MP5 that you need to progress into the 25-man instances.

It's always a tradeoff on gear. - always.

Kommentar von 115678

From a druid's perspective (and I'm feral but heal occasionally), I agree there are many better MH/OH combo's for +healing. I have this staff and will be enchanting it with +20 spirit to be used only while innervating, then I'll swap back to my MH/OH combo enchanted with +81 healing.

Kommentar von Spl4sh3r

I would go for this staff anytime. I am not a fan of MH/OH combo's and the high spirit is good for my mana regen (I have over 570+ spirit unbuffed already) this staff is also the true upgrade to my current staff (Serpentcrest Life-Staff) +Healing isn't everything when you are a healer. Since I am using HoTs too I don't need that high healing since I will never be able to heal spikedamage good anyway.

PS: I am a Tree of Life druid =)

Kommentar von 89984

See the new staff that drops now in Heroic Magister's Terrace,
It's better in my opinion.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34608

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Not nearly as good as some 1h/offhand combos. Far less +healing, and less regen if you pick some combo with good mana/5

Kommentar von Allakhazam

OMG Kara with dkp oO

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I would let a disc priest roll on this over a resto druid but a resto druid over a holy priest. disc priest make use of the extra SPI since they should also have imp divine spirit. but thats my 2 cents.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Tree druid healing aura is based on the druid's spirit. There is as much benefit to the party from a tree druid stacking spirit as from a priest stacking spirit. If you don't know that, then you don't know enough about druids to play effectively with them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where is this from?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

BUTT SECKS! ME WANT

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Of course there are better combo's, but for those of use who are running Kara, this is a major upgrade from the other stuff (pre-kara) and can definatly hold you over until you're lucky enough to see Light's Justice and Aran Soothing Sapphire drop and then win the rolls/have the DKP to obtain them. That could be a while for most of us.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a great Staff for BOTH Druids and Priests, no need to ***** about which class should have priority. It's not that great for Resto Shamans though since Spirit is quite useless for that class but there are some nice 1-Hand+Shield combos with a lot of mana reg available anyway.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Excellent stave for priests or druids.

Priests do benefit slightly more from spirit, but both classes would benefit greatly from this exquisite piece of equipment.

The arguement that a staff with more str or stam would be better for a druid is invalidated by the fact that you can change weapons in combat.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Priest staff ~

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It is good for any healer, but the resto-specced Druid's tree of life buff, which all members of their party receive, increases their heals by 25% of their total spirit, so the extra spirit for them is definitely a plus.

Edited, Feb 8th 2007 2:55am by Phaetallia

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Priests must be drooling, 50 spirit and 300 healing is a mountain of healing stats on one slot. Good for druids too, but spirit-hating shamans better not go after this. ;p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Priest regens mana more effeciently than any other class per spirit point. You can see the table here in Wowwiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen

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Priests arsenal for spirit effects are many. These talents includes Improved Divine Spirit (+10% dmg/heal from total spirit), Spirit of redemption (+5% spirit total) and Spiritual Guidance (+25% dmg/heal from total spirit).

So with +50spi in this weapon, priest can get total of +52.5spi which means 52.5/4 = +13.13 mana per tick (2 seconds) and +18.38dmg/heal in addition to other stats.

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Druids arsenal in increasing spirits effect is limited to one, yet quite powerful talent Living Spirit (+15% spirit total).

So with +50spi in this weapon, druid can get total of +57.5spi which means 57.5/4.5 = +12.78 mana per tick (2 seconds) in addition to other stats. If some priest with Imp.Divine Spirit buffed this druid, she gets a bonus of +5.75dmg/heal.

In treeform druid adds +25% of her spirit for all members of her party as "increased healing received". This was changed in 2.0.3 patch. It's bit hard to calculate how this affects the raid so I won't even try it.

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To sum it up, if druid ain't using treefrom priest gets more from spirit than she does. In treefrom however druid (and every other healer) heals her group with a +heal bonus equivalent of 25% of druids total spirit.

Which one gets more from this staff... you decide.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

silly stuff i read here, for example:

druids innervate priests so priests should get this staff cause they regen more then, i mean wtf? if druids can't get spirit of themselves they will need more innervates themselves => less inervates for priests

This staff goes to any healer wich has a raid that can kill nightbane, and then that has enough dkp to get it. Even if a shaman would want it, it's his choice, not the smartest but still his, cause it's HIS character, so also HIS choice to pick the weapon he likes

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i'd tap that

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Turning into Thottbot on here. :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Its a Straight Up Priest Staff If i druid in my group Needed on this I would Go buck, Suck it Up druids, were the true healers, your the Jack of all Trades but master of none, we are the heal masters, this is a heal master staff

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yup Rachul, you keep this (or your crappy Benediction) while the smart healers take a 1-Hand + Off.

Staff
+27 Stamina
+29 Intellect
+50 Spirit
Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 300

Light's Justice + Aran Soothing Sapphire
+13 Stamina
+39 Intellect
+17 Spirit
Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 378
Restores 8 mana per 5 sec

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just got it on my feral druid, nobody else wanted it on our first nightbane kill

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just obtained this staff last night as a Holy Priest, absolutely love it.

Was previously using 1h mace exalted sha'tar and tears of heaven.

No one else needed the item. We are the only guild on the server to kill Doom Lord Kazzak, have him farmed, although I prefer this to the staff he drops for lack of stats on the other.

Druids and Priests both will enjoy this item equally. Stop complaining :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I dont know if you have ever checked, but the tree form buff now increases healing taken by party members.

Priests have the spiritual guidance buff for increased +healing, but, IMO, it is just as good for either class.

Kommentar von Thottbot

you also seem to have forgotten than improved divine spirit is based off of your base spirit and helps w/damage as well as healing for everyone. PRIEST ftw <3

Kommentar von Thottbot

this is a great staff for healers. many people have been saying that this is the best for druids. This is probably mosly because of the small amoutn of gear that is out there for druids. Spirit is probably the best base stat for a priest. there are many holy talents having to do with it so if anything this would be best for a holy priest

Kommentar von Thottbot

apparently sarcasm is officially dead.

But anyway, priest or druid staff imo... both benefit from it, priests have spirit > healing talents, and druids tree of life form increases healing done by 25% of the druids spirit.

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's a pretty common drop from Nightbane. Once more people get access to KZ, you'll see a lot of healers with this staff.

I used Staff of Divine Infusion (+190~ healing, +23Int, +50Spirit) before this. It's good for long fights. Pop a +20 Spirit enchant on this, and give it to a Human (+10% Spirit) Discipline or Holy priest (+5% spirit from talents) and you've got a weapon that grants you just over +80 Spirit. Innervate, anyone?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Light's Justice https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28771/gerechtigkeit-des-lichts

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Signet of Unshakable Faith https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28525/siegel-des-unerschütterlichen-glaubens

29 Stam
38 Int
47 Spr
367 Healing

So for using the above two you lose 3 Spr for 2 Stam, 9 Int, and 67 healing, so far better imo.

You could also

Aran's Soothing Sapphire https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28728/arans-beruhigungssaphir

If you prefer the mp5.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If the patch changes go through, the stats will be increased by

+6 sta
+5 int
+5 spi
+48 healing

Kommentar von Thottbot

Healing bonus,
300 bonus healing
81 chant
5 imp spirit buff(priest talent)from 50 spirit on staff
12.5 spiritual guidance(priest talent)from 50 spirit on staff

Mana regen bonus,
50x15% =7.5 MP5 + 5% from primal mooncloth set bonus another 2.5 MP5 and if using bangle of endless blessings 15 sec x15% additional 7.5 MP5

Stats bonus,
27 stamina
29 intellect
50 spirit

Total regen possible = 17.5 MP5

Total bonus healing possible = 398.5

Total stats possible = 106

The stats speak for themselves....this is a very nice piece...for a staff its probably one of the currently introduced top 3 in game for any healing class...especially for priests who maximize its stats more than other classes...decent druid staff as well.

Kommentar von Thottbot

it has 5 more of each stats and 48more healing now

Kommentar von Thottbot

So you want to be a Spirit Priest uh? (Strictly Spirit as not to confuse with mp/5 priest.)

Might I first direct you to this Excellent post made by Jundicator!

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11893046&sid;=1

These two are pretty nice combo IMO.

Signet of Unshakable Faith

AND

Light's Justice

Total

Mace & Offhand Staff

35 Stam 33 Stam
42 Int 34 Int
44 Spi 55 Spi
+H 419 +H 348

I still like this staff.. But the mace and off-hand look pretty good as well and seems the best trade of that I can find for losing 9 spirit.

/discuss

Kommentar von Thottbot

Doesn't look out of place on the primal mooncloth set either. But yeh, the stats still need a bit of a boost considering the maces you can get, i guess it's because you dont need an offhand?

Kommentar von Thottbot

For tree form (aka resto) druids (and i am one), the combo Light's Justice + Signet of Unshakable Faith is better then Nightstaff of the Everliving.

IDK but i think that is better for holy priests too.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/search?q=Light's%20Justice
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https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/search?q=Signet%20of%20Unshakable%20Faith

Druids (full resto tree) only loose 9 spirit but with the combo and can get more healing done, intellect and stamina.

Total

Mace & Offhand Staff

35 Stam 33 Stam
42 Int 34 Int
44 Spi 55 Spi
+H 419 +H 348

For druids, 1spirit = 1/4 healing done in tree form (for all the group) and 1 spirit = 1 mana regen while not casting but resto druids, use instant casts like rejuvenation/swiftmend, lifebloom, so we dont need mp5 gear cos we are not casting all the time.

Balance/resto druids need more MP5 gear cos they dont have good hots, and dont have swiftmend...

--419 combo+81 enchant = 500HD d(O_o')b...

Another good items:

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/search?q=Netherwing%20Spiritualist's%20Charm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28522/splitter-der-tugendhaften
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/search?q=Hand%20of%20Eternity
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28728/arans-beruhigungssaphir

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does this staff show glowing effect after enchant?

For example, +81 healing, mongoose, +dmg, etc.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I here priests putting this down constantly, but the only reason you say it is "Mediocre" is because you are not Spec'd Around spirit, If you have Imp devine Spirit then you will be stacking +spirit like crazy, Personally this staff is best for the spec i am going with me priest, Although you lose Mp5 and +healing, If you pump Big heals once every lets say 8 seconds, you do recieve alot of mana from your +spirit, Now if i wasn't a Human priest i wouldnt even bother with this, but because of 10% spirit buff racial of humans This weapon is awesomo

Kommentar von Thottbot

6th best healing staff in the game

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got this staff a few weeks ago for my boomkin.... seriously. Nobody else could use it and it makes a great innervate staff as well as good for off healing. Got it enchanted with 20 spirit and I can get a full mana recharge (9650 mana) from an innervate while casting

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wow, everyone is so violent on thottbot! :D The major point that ought to be remembered here is that both the druid and the priest rely on the stats this staff has. Therefore they both need it. Whether the priest can or can not utilize it a lil' better is not relevent because the druid and the preist both aren't going to find something better. This is both class' best option for healz gear (in this specific instance) so they need to roll on it. Other classes and speccs have better gear to roll on so they need to roll on what will be best for them. At least this weap has been narrowed down to 2 classes. Some of this other gear has 3-4 classes fighting for it. And priests, when you roll against that druid, just be glad he's not a mentally challenged pally (oh yeah, that's happened before).

Kommentar von Thottbot

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