Kommentare

Kommentar von yoink

I got this enchant from Moroes the other night, I am not 375 yet, but I will be soon.

I am on Cenarius Horde.

Kommentar von 20387

I got this from Moroes on Eredar (Alliance)

Kommentar von Starfox

"... and attack speed slightly."

Yea, it's +2% so really slightly :>

Kommentar von 19117

Big Bad Wolf Claw with Mongoose. 125 thrown shots, 15 bow shots.
Zero procs. Assumption is that within a small margin of error it doesn't proc from ranged. So stick with you 35 agility unless you are raptor strike spec'd -_-

Kommentar von Reanna

Can we get an update on what color/style glow this adds to a weapon?

Kommentar von Reznap

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7178/mongoosenn5.jpg

I can confirm that the lightning speed effect does indeed stack.

Kommentar von 25412

I'm curious, anyone out there have this enchant master looted to them? I'm wondering since my raid group always uses master loot, and the master looter is not an enchanter, if he'll even be able to see it if it drops.

Kommentar von Gymnos

The amount you should expect to pay for this enchant is around 942 gold. :p

Kommentar von 33359

Does anyone have a feel for how often the enchant procs from a single weapon? Is it similar to Crusader in frequency? I'm trying to get a feel if the 15 Agi enchant or this enchant would be better in PvE. Thanks.

Kommentar von Gere

I'd run a procwatch on it but I only have it on my OH until I upgrade my Drakefist hammer. I guess I could go autoattack something with just my OH weapon equipped.

Kommentar von 34029

Just wondering, with sword combat spec'd rogue, with the "chance for extra attack," would this have a chance of proc'ing on that "extra attack," if so, that would make it seem to proc most with a combat sword rogue, than any other class, of course it also depends on weapon speed, but still.

Kommentar von Primax

How long does the proc effect last for?

What is the proc rate like?

Kommentar von 36866

Proc Watch in Karazhan for 4 hours....Mongoose on Emerald Ripper (1.8 spd) and Riftmaker (1.8 spd)....3.6 ppm. Proc watch on single Mongoose on Emerald Ripper over same time period in Karazhan week prior...2.6 ppm. Correction on the above post, it's a 10 second buff. When 1 hand stacks on itself, the timer extends to 13-15 seconds.

Kommentar von 37727

i currently have mongoose on my malchazeen, and 15agi on my blade of the unrequited. is it worth it to replace the 15agi on my offhand with mongoose. mats are not a problem to obtain.

Kommentar von Abaddon2501

I have this enchant on my rogues main hand Blinkstrike "https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31332" with 5/5 in Sword Specialization and it procs often. Yes it procs about as much as . But if you are using ProcWatch, the first proc will say "You agian Lightning Speed" if it procs agian within 15 seconds it will not say it in combat log but it will rebuff the current proc.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Adummim

Kommentar von 37560

The lightning speed will reduce a weapon's speed from 2.60 to 2.55, roughly.

Dual-wielding weapons both enchanted with mongoose, and both procs, a further reduction to 2.50, roughly.

It would seem like the weapon speed increase is negligible.

120 agility is VERY nice though.

Kommentar von 27334

4/3/2007: 2.0.10 Patch changed the icon of the mongoose enchant from the BlueLighting icon (shown in the screen shot) to the revised image. The bolt now has splash damage around the impact point.

Kommentar von Akane

I'm wondering when any of the karazhan enchants drop... if the loot mode is set to master loot still everyone will see the roll o just the master looter (even if he is not enchanter), coz if this drop and all enchanters get to roll there could be some ninja! <:o

Kommentar von 41292

Does anyone know if this works with druids in bear or cat form??

Kommentar von Vesper

Vitality (rogue talent) also affects the 120 agility when you gain Lightning Speed. The 2% increase to agility is almost neglible but every bit helps. So when you have 2/2 Vitality you will gain 122-123 agility (whether you gain 2 or 3 agility is based on rounding factors).

The attack speed is multiplicated with all other attack speed increases (from abilities/procs/trinkets and pots). For example with SnD up your attack speed is increased to 133%.

Very expensive enchant and worth every penny :D

Kommentar von 38144

The enchant glow has been changed again. It is now a softer green, similar to the one found on the +15 Agility enchant.

Kommentar von 43663

The question is, can the new good loocking glow be seen through the glows that the weapon has without enchants? For example can you see the glow effect of mongoose in your Gladiator's Slicer?

Kommentar von 48582

is this enchant good for a tank warrior ? with the sun eater (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29362) ??

Kommentar von adamthemute

Would this be a good enchant on a 2 hander?

Kommentar von 39607

Guys, you all talk about sword rogue... so how about dagger rogues? Is it good for mutilate specced rogue and on what hand?

Kommentar von 48582

whats better for a tank this or battel master ?

Kommentar von 14687

Enough about rogues, this is a great tanking weapon enchant. The proc adds 4% dodge rating and 300 armor. It is THE tanking weapon enchant bar none and it procs about the same rate as crusader.

Kommentar von reveal

how is this enchant for arms warriors ?
I'm almost done upgrading my weapon from thunder to deep thunder ...
And doubting between getting this or just +35 agil / Savagery

Kommentar von Kerghan

I got this on my arms warrior's axe recently (after patch 2.1) and I'm not satisfied with it. I've found that it rarely procs and when it does, the bonus to your critical strike percentage is less than one would imagine because agility seems to have diminishing returns. The more you get, the less crit you'll get out of it. I expected the boost to be around 4.80 percent, since i have 118 agility and that gives me 4.72 percent extra crit according to the tooltip when I highlight it on my character sheet, but the bonus from the 120 agility proc is 3.64. The 2 percent attack speed is kind of a joke...yeah, so I deal normal (white) melee damage and build rage 2 percent faster for the relatively short duration, assuming my target is constantly standing right next to me (which is rare when fighting a lot of classes in pvp). Big deal.

I'd assume that Mongoose is much better for any class that attacks really fast. The buff lasts 15 seconds, so without any other attack speed modifiers, that extra crit percentage is only good for about 4 of my autoattacks after it procs. A class that attacks fast could potentially hit many more times during the duration of the proc.

I probably should have gone with Savagery instead. The constant effect is much more reliable and far cheaper, not to mention the cool new bleeding effect. Also, keep in mind that the damage gained from the extra ap of Savagery is also doubled when you crit, since melee crits are double damage. I see it this way: slightly extra damage constantly with each attack is probably more favorable than each attack having a chance to slightly increase your chance to deal much more damage for a very short while. There's a lot of luck involved with that.

Kommentar von Juggernaut

The proc rate is awesome, imo this enchant is a lot better than savagery for 2h warriors.

Kommentar von Smorfty

so I guess this is the best tanking enchant too?

Kommentar von Grimerz

With current auction house prices, this is a 350-400g enchant with competitive pricing
Void Crystal - low 20's apiece
Arcane Dust - 40-50g a stack (i got a really good deal on 2 stacks for 50g)
Planar Essence x10 - 45-50g
Shards - 15-20g apiece

So be prepared to drop a few hundered ^_^

(came off Arthas)

Kommentar von 52693

ok, what does mongoos even do to your wepon, other then make it spark lightning

Kommentar von BaronB

The prices has gone up a lot.. (or maybe just our server where evrything has always been expansive..) Yes im talking about Horde on Frostwhisper^^ .. as ah is atm:

Void - 40g each = 240g
Arcane dust - 60-75g stack = 120-150g
Planar essencex10 - 70-80g = 70-80g
Prismatics - 30-35g each = 300-350g
total = 730-820g

So.. yeah... but its still worth it! xD

Kommentar von emanuelrc

Mongoose Dual-Proc's if you have it on both weapons, but also resets it self... If your main or off hand proc's twice it will reset. It will only dual-proc if both weapons proc within 15seconds of each other.

http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/e/emanuelrc/101492/cydzcxvttf.jpg

Rc @ Grim Batol
"...rogues do it from behind"

Kommentar von 45360

I'm still in a battle regarding this enchant and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=42620 the next patch.

Anyone that has any calculation with the PPM making this enchant better than the above for a tank? :-)

Kommentar von 75468

Hey I am an MS warrior and am raid DPS. I am really contemplating whether Mongoose would be good for raiding on my 2H or if I should just stick to savagery. I'd appreciate some help in making this decision. I have seen alot of people in my battlegroup who have Gorehowl/ Axe of the Gronn Lords using mongoose on their weapon.

Kommentar von 5027

This page is just for the formula drop! Please keep comments about the actual enchantment on its own page!

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=27984

Kommentar von 49327

as with most BoP recipes that have a static drop area, the requirement to see it is to have someone with the tradeskill to use it present so the droprate won't be accurate as some groups will have killed Moroes without an enchanter present.

however, it's likely that the majority of raids going in there would have an enchanter present to turn the epic drops into shards when nobody wants them. The droprate may be close due to that but it should be slightly higher then stated.

Kommentar von 86229

So....from what I've read so far it works best on the heavy slow weapons best. If thats the case, is this enchant better than the 35 agility enchant? I mean the 35 agility is constant while the mongoose has to proc. I'm just not sure which is right for me. I'm a Ret Paladin with a two-hander that is 3.80 attack speed. Thanks for any input on this matter.

Kommentar von 86573

Does the haste stack with Flurry and/or Thundering Skyfire Diamond?

As a MS warrior, i'd be a happy guy.

Thanks for any information! :)

Kommentar von 78124

The following is written from a Protection Warrior / Tank's POV. It does *not* apply to melee DPS players.

For a tank who is debating which enchantment, Battlemaster or Mongoose, he/she should put on their weapon, it's helpful to consider two different aspects about both of these enchantments: Threat, and Damage Mitigation.

*
*** THREAT ***
*

Mongoose increases agility by 120 and weapon speed by 2% for 15 sec; this effect will proc roughly 1.4 times a minute with a fast tanking sword (thank you jmdbcool for your excellent explanation above), which means that this effect will be active on average 21 seconds out of every minute.

For warriors, that 120 agility translates to:

- 3.6% increase chance to crit
- 240 armor class increase
- 4.0% increase chance to dodge

To see how much that 3.6% chance to crit affects your threat, we have to draw a combat table. (Be sure to read the WoWWiki article on combat tables http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table if you aren't familiar with the concept.) Now let's assume that a warrior, Imatank, is a 70 human who has 5 extra racial skill points in the weapon of his choice, a sword, that combined with his attack power generates 150 damage per second and a 10% chance to crit. Against a level 73 mob or ?? boss and without any +hit gear, his combat table would look like

Imatank Attacking ??:

% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 10.0%
% to hit ----------------- 42.2%

Since crits strike for 200% damage, and glancing blows ~70%, the total amount of DPS landing on the ?? boss comes out to...

150 * ( 42.2% + + )
= 150 * ( 79.7% )
= 119.55 DPS

Over a 60 sec time period, that totals up to roughly 7,175 threat.

Now, when we add the 3.6% crit chance and 2% attack speed increase (simplified as a 2% increase in DPS) from the Mongoose buff, that combat table changes into...

Imatank Attacking ??:

% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 13.6%
% to hit ----------------- 38.6%

150 * ( 38.6% + + ) * 1.02
= 150 * ( 83.3% ) * 1.02
= 127.45 DPS

127.45 - 119.55 = 7.9 DPS increase

Keeping in mind that this buff is only active for 21 sec each minute, the extra damage/threat generated by this buff each minute is 166.

How does this compare with the other main weapon enchantment, Battlemaster?

Battlemaster has a chance on hit to heal all party members for 180 - 300 (avg 240), and it has a similar proc rate as Mongoose at 1.4 proc per minute with a fast weapon. Assuming that the wielder's party members are all taking damage, and none of the procs are over-healing (which generates no threat), the threat generated comes out to...

240 heal * 5 PartyMembers * 1.4 PPM * 0.5 ThreatPerHeal = 840 threat

Realistically, only half of a raiding party is going to be taking damage at any given time, so that threat amount is reduced to an average of 400 threat per minute. (However, there is the added advantage that if things start to get out of hand for a party and all members start taking damage, a well-timed Battlemaster proc that maximizes the amount of threat generated could help divert attention away from the accosted party members and onto the tank.)

Comparing these two numbers, 166 Threat Per Minute generated by Mongoose and 400 threat generated by Battlemaster, it is evident that BATTLEMASTER GENERATES MORE THREAT THAN MONGOOSE.

*
*** DAMAGE MITIGATION ***
*

Remember that the 120 agility buff from Mongoose not only increased a warrior's critical strike chance by 3.6%, but also increased his armor by 240 and dodge chance by 4.0%. How does that affect his overall damage mitigation? Again, a combat table is necessary to analyze the change.

Let's suppose that our Warrior from earlier, Imatank, is again fighting a 73 mob or ?? boss. Imatank has lots of blue equipment, but no epics, and as a result has 12000 HP, 12000 armor, and 490 points of defense. He also has a 15% chance to dodge, parry and block. Therefore, if we assume that the boss is dealing a conservative 2000 DPS to Imatank, his combat table vs. the ?? boss would look like...

?? attacking Imatank:

% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 14.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 31.8%

2000 * ( 31.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 65.1% )
= 1302 unavoided DPS

Since armor mitigation against a level 73 or ?? opponent is = AC / ( AC + 11960 ), Imatank's 12000 armor class gives him 50.08% damage mitigation, which further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 650 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he has * 18.5 * seconds to live before he dies.

With the 4% dodge and 240 ac Mongoose buff on, however, his combat table now appears as...

?? attacking Imatank:

% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 18.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 27.8%

2000 * ( 27.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 61.1% )
= 1222 unavoided DPS

With Imatank's armor class now at 12240 thanks to Mongoose, his new damage mitigation of 50.58% further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 604 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he now has * 19.9 * seconds to live before he dies.

According to this sample study, the Mongoose buff reduces the amount of damaged being absorbed by a tank by 7.6%, or 46dps. Over the average 21 second duration (1.4 PPM * 15 sec), Mongoose will mitigate 966 points of damage per minute. Compare this with the Battlemaster enchant, which only heals on average 336 points of damage over the same time period.

Comparing these two numbers, 966 points of damage mitigation from Mongoose vs. 336 points of healing from Battlemaster, it is clear that MONGOOSE MITIGATES MORE DAMAGE THAN BATTLEMASTER.

*
*** CONCLUSIONS ***
*

So back to the original question: Which enchantment should a warrior choose for his/her tanking weapon? The answer depends on both the weapon, and the situation.

In situations within heroics and facing "trash" raid mobs, where threat is unwieldy to manage and rage difficult to generate, a weapon geared more towards DPS (Fireguard, or Blinkstrike) and enchanted with the threat-heavy Battlemaster is ideal. However, during dangerous boss battles, where a well-timed dodge can prevent a costly raid-wipe, a more defensive weapon (Sun Eater or King's Defender) combined with the damage mitigation of Mongoose is far more appropriate.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Kommentar von 87093

I had this with my Warrior before I created a new account.

Lunar Crescent + Mongoose Ench = Amazing.
Ofcourse it's better with 1 handed but I really liked this :)
Pretty expensive but awesome when you got it, worth to get!

Kommentar von 96303

yea you can enchant a 2h with mongoose, its on my deep thunder and i reccomend it. i know savagery seems better, but mongoose gives me about 3% crit chance and speed.also 240+ armor

Kommentar von gric111

if the choice is between battlemaster and mongoose, mongoose is probably the better choice however a smart tank should never use a proc reliant enchant for anything IMO 20 agility constantly gives you less mitigation then mongoose but is constant there is not relying on it procing to do anything you get your dodge crit armor all constants

Kommentar von 100627

I've recently crafted a Drakefist Hammer and I'm having second thoughts whether to pay an enchanter to put mongoose because when I upgrade the Drakefist Hammer into a Dragonmaw the mongoose enchant might not be there anymore. Will the enchant like Mongoose be removed when a weapon like the Drakefist hammer gets upgraded to its 2nd and finally 3rd form?

Kommentar von ooiownedjoo

Does the glow stack over gladiator wep's normal glow??

Kommentar von 98702

I got a triple buff from procs. how?
just swing till you get both weapons proc and switch your main hand with a third weapon enchanted with mongoose. with any luck you will see the 3rd buff popping.
theoreticaly you can manage to do 4 ( havent done this one yet) .
just do as i said and enjoy some sweet numbers :D

Kommentar von 105289

Is there a specific Rogue Talent build that would be best for dual wielding daggers with mongoose?

Kommentar von 104248

Doesn't devastate qualify as an actual weapon swing ? Therefore, even with a slow weapon, won't MTing toons see more procs? Not sure if any of the proc rate tests you guys did count that in, and I'm not savvy enough to test myself.

Kommentar von 107632

Quick question: The weapon speed effect applies to both weapons, yes? If I apply it to my main hand, it will give the speed boost to both my main hand and my offhand? I mean, that would only make sense, but I wanted to check before I shelled out 600g on mats for this.

Kommentar von IronVeins

Stacking Questions
- If you have Mongoose on one weapon and Crusader on the other weapon when Dual Wielding will the effects stack?
- Does Mongoose overwrite itself or stack with the initial proc for a double effect if it procs twice on one weapon within the duration?
- Can added swings from talents like Reckoning or Rogue's sword spec, special attacks suck as Stormstrike or Devastate, or any other method of adding more attacks per minute increase the proc rate, or is it set in stone at 1.4ppm?

I've heard a lot of different answers and I'm looking for some proof one way or another.

Kommentar von Khaled

Does it proc in druid forms?

Kommentar von 134449

can anyone please tell me if the mongoose effect will still stack off of procs on 2 different weapons. The current comments say yes. But i was told by someone that it doesnt. All of the current comment look pretty old :S
thanks

Kommentar von 105071

hmmm... I wonder what this looks like on a mace, hmmm?!

( can someone show me?)

Kommentar von pik4chu

it does, read the comments please.

Kommentar von 147819

Hello i was asking my self, whats the best enchant on a 2hander mongoose, executioner or savagery.
I am sittign with this question a very long time and i really want a answer on it :P
Thx for you time ^^

Kommentar von 110498_

mongoose rulez! yesterday i saw rogue 60lvl with 2x sword with mongoose and he kill all without problems :p

Kommentar von 153200

I am making a 49 Orc Warrior twink with dual Flurry Axes, would this be a good enchant for both of them?

I was also looking at Potency (+20 strength), but wasn't sure.

~Theard

Kommentar von 96118

This enchant graphic does not show up on the gladiators left and right rippers. What a bummer.

Kommentar von cawfee

The proc rate on this is actually quite amazing, provided you have a fast enough weapon. So far, as a rogue with sword spec and Mongoose on both of them, I manage to get at least one proc per mob. The event of them proccing at the same time isn't too far off either, so dual Mongoose is definitely something to be considered unless there's a more viable option for your spec.

Kommentar von 165707

Hey, is mongoose better then executioner on a ret pally?

Kommentar von 148723

Now what about mongoose on say...a twink 39 rogue with Vanquisher's Sword and Sword of Omen? Would it be better than firey or other enchants?

Kommentar von 135362

I've done karazhan plenty of times, never ever seen it drop and never gotten it -_-
Exalted and gotten all the gear I needed and DE'd them already :(
I wanna sell mongoose for ridiculous prices >.<

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So this doesn't work on ranged? :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

125 thrown shots, 15 bow shots no procs from ranged. assumption within a small margin of error is that ranged doesn't proc it. Although I am curious of if it has a cool glow. It's kinda on Big Bad Wolf Claw and I don't see glows on them.

Oh yeah we got it in Karazhan, unsure if it was moroes or just a random drop I just know that one of our groups got it last week.

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 1:51am by Duskmourn

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Bloodhoof EU /w Tankz for it, dropped tonight for us :D (its fixed drop from him BTW)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped of the guild's third Moroes kill.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

only took me 2300 gold to get the last 10 levels + rod to make this (gg enchanting :P)
If you want it, message Selenia @ magtheridon EU!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

At lvl 70 Mongoose is 2% attack speed, i have yet to see the glow because i doubt anyone would waste the mats on something that would actually show it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Bigslick can now perform the Mongoose enchant on the Thunderhorn (US) server, alliance side.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

msg heph on bonechewer horde side if u want

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can enchant

Alliance: Emptybucket of Blackrock (US)

Send me an in-game mail or pm.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Will it proc for a feral druid? I'm 99% sure it doesn't. But does anyone know for sure?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

So I JUST hit 375 today, and up till now, I havent charged a penny over the price of mats, im just trying to gain. But now that I am 375, and I have enchants like this, I dont really know what a good price to charge is.

What would you expect to be charge, or be charged, over the cost of materials for this enchant, assuming that not toooo many people on the server have it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Koma on horde side of Eonar can do this. Feel free to message me to get this done for you.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Doing this Enchant:

EU-Nordrassil
(A)-Fosizzle

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can anyone tell me an accurate proc rate on this enchant?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

there is a way to give higher lv item (lv with no lv and soulbound to anyone) by mailbox, but i will keep the secret until a fix. hihi

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I put this on my tanking weapon yesterday, and found out the hard way that it does not work while in shapeshift form. I'll repeat that...It DOES NOT WORK if you are in Dire Bear or Cat form. This was confirmed by a GM. The weapon the enchant is on must hit for it to proc. Save you gold and mats, this one is a waste.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Vias on Kael'thas Horde can do this. Bring your own mats :)

Yes to off hand, and yes to fist weapons.

Edited, May 21st 2008 12:51am by uforik

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Soon as I get my 4 primal mights for my rod I can do this on Demon Soul, Alliance side. In game name is Nikia. Dropped off our first Moroes kill.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can do this enchant.
Whisperwind
Alliance side
Hundredstep

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Drops only off Moroes (2nd boss in karazhan) quite rare, and formula seen only by enchanters when it drops look like little lightnings surround weapon

Aerie Peak, alliance /w Mandorallen for this one, sunfire and soulfrost

Kommentar von Allakhazam

yet another nice enchant to find formula for...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dual these babies on a 39 Warrior twink

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Surely some1 must know the glow of this chant... btw I'm buying this on Mal'Ganis horde named Anix... also, is Sword of Omen too low for this chant? ima twink, so wondering.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Kelektra is now Enchanting Mongoose on Khadgar server.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I decided to try this out on my Legionnaire's Sword with my 39 twink rogue. I went on a killing spree in an alliance NPC town where I could basically fight continuously.

As I understand it, the proc chance for this enchant is scaled by weapon speed to proc once a minute on average. The effect lasts 15 seconds when it procs.

It will proc off instant attacks, too, which is why using a slow weapon is advantageous. The proc chance is constant even though you have increased your attack rate, so you proc more often with a slow weapon. Sure enough, using sinister strike caused it to proc about twice a minute.

That means I have +120 agility half the time when fighting continuously. At level 39, this was +16 DPS with dual wield spcialization (I assume about +14 DPS without ). It also was about +13% dodge chance.

That is pretty darn good for a 39 twink!

Since the effect can proc off both weapons and stacks, putting it on your offhand will increase your duty cycle to having the effect an average of about 75% of the time.

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 11:29am by AddictedFanatic

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Edit.

Je sais le faire sur le serveur kael'thas coté alliance.

Pv me IG ou par courrier. Grande dispo la journée et le soir alors gogo enchanté votre Off hand aldor, armes gladiateur etc ... Grüt !

Merrin

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 3:46pm by merrinos

Kommentar von Allakhazam

SO much Enha-Shammy stuff....NEED IT!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

can anyone still display the mats ! or am i too noob to see em already somewhere else ?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can anyone confirm if this is really a chance on hit enchant (thus useless to hunters) or if it can proc anytime you do damage? soo.. any hunters out there use this? I'm betting no, but hoping yes.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ayrianna on Stormscale(US) can do this enchant.

I was well into exalted before I even saw this enchant drop once, but then I saw it two weeks in a row. crazy.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

LF someone to enchant this to my weapon on thunderhorn pst ashagas

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Mats aren't exactly cheap.

We have 1 enchanter on Alliance Dath'Remar who has come forward - and demands 100g as payment.

I'm also a 375 enchanter with the rod. Our guild has Karazhan on farm status for 2 groups so it's just a matter of time before one of our enchanters get it. If there isn't a primal nether in the recipe for Mongoose, anyone charging that much can *!@# off unless they line up the other 10 members in the raid and allow each of them to receive 10g for their effort in getting the drop.

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btw, does anybody know where this beauty drops?

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Anyone know the Proc Rate?

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the attack speed really sucks it's just 3%

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Have this chant on Kael'Thas horde message Katunka

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I am one of two people on Alliance Boulderfist. You supply mats +100 gold (fair considering it cost me 700 gold to get runed eternium rod and to level my skill up like crazy).

If I have the mats.

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Mats aren't exactly cheap.

We have 1 enchanter on Alliance Dath'Remar who has come forward - and demands 100g as payment.

I'm also a 375 enchanter with the rod. Our guild has Karazhan on farm status for 2 groups so it's just a matter of time before one of our enchanters get it. If there isn't a primal nether in the recipe for Mongoose, anyone charging that much can @#$% off unless they line up the other 10 members in the raid and allow each of them to receive 10g for their effort in getting the drop.

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Got this enchant on Sunday.

Taraxist, Stormreaver server, alliance side.

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Well it doesnt stack with flurry. Itll override the flurry buff. To let any fury warriros know who are thinking of getting it, but it still a nice buff when it procs with some good weapons.

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We got it from Moroes today, as stated before, in Karazhan.

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and see that you got the mats before telling pls thx

Edited, Feb 1st 2007 5:04am by mastu

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LF someone that can do this on Thunderlord - US

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Tomatix on Durotan Alliance side can do this enchant. Bring mats and pst in game -- cost will vary depending on my mood ;o.

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The enchant says: Learn how to permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally increase Agility by 120 and attack speed slightly.

So sure you can enchant a melee weapon with it fine. But do you have to actually use that same melee weapon to make it proc? It would make sense for it not to be that way and that using your ranged weapon would make it proc since it is AGI and attack speed. Other useful class would obviously be rogue.

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"Forgotten Silence" on Wildhammer can now do Mongoose.
PST Fujadin.

Edited, May 13th 2007 10:38pm by Hanahh

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I was wondering if i had both weapons enchanted with mongoose .. would it prot for double .. like 240 agility?

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Dose mongoose work on off hand?

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Can blacksmiths tell me that if you upgrade your weapon with an enchant on it does it stay on?

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Can mongoose be applied to fist weapons?

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What haste rating does it give when it procs and how long does it last? Proc rate?

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Enchanting this Alliance side on LaughingSkull. Message Venezuelan. =)

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Anyone on Bladefist able to do this one yet?

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I can do this on Turalyon, Alliance, whisper Xelda

Edited, May 10th 2007 2:46pm by Delsus

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I can enchant this on EU Blackrock Horde /w mastu or send ingame mail

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Use: Learn how to permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally increase Agility by 120 and attack speed slightly.

Surely you could not put this on a level 19 twink's weapon? If you could then the sentence should be changed to read:

Use: Learn how to permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to occasionally one-shot opponents and run away laughing.

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No other word for it, this enchant is incredible for rogue DPS. It's decent for fury warriors too, but not nearly to the extent of how much it benefits a rogue.

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If there is any alliance on Windrunner who can do mongoose, please leave a post or pst to Zanon ingame.

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Warloc on Baelgun can do this chant whenever u need it.
Allaince for the win!

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My Priest can do this enchant on Norgannon. PST to Bloedsian.

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anyone seen where to get this yet?

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I can do this enchant on Vek'nilash. Alliance side. Whisper Nikcoli.

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1500g for the mats, on my server, got a little discount buying the crystals from the guild so 600g for me ;o.

Worth every penny, using the thing in kara yesterday.

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Anyone on Bladefist able to do this enchant at all? Looking for price with/out mats

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my guild gave me mats

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Nilla on Ahn'Qiraj realm can do this enchant

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This enchant supposedly drops off Moroes in Karazhan. I'm not sure tho.

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Enchants that are procs only work on the weapon they are placed on, so no this won't work on ranged weapons. That being said, if you get it to proc, yes your ranged weapon will get the agility, but it'd be *!@#$%ed to take a chance that you might be fighting in melee and get a proc mainly for your ranged weapon.

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I was extremely unsure about putting this on my Lionheart. I'm a Arms spec warrior. But you know what, it's the best thing I ever did.

As DPS warriors know, strength is important, but so is Crit chance. Buying armor/gems to increase your crit chance by around 3-4% can cost a HUGE amount (if you are around the 20% crit chance in battle standard no buffs etc). It is difficult to find high strength, high stam and high agility without causing one of them to suffer.

For me personally, 25% crit chance is the magic number. To have 1 in 4 hits from a heavy 2h wep like the Lionheart to crit strike is crucial. Mongoose has enabled me to forget about putting a lot of gold buying agility/critical gems and put it instead into upping my strength. The effect is menacing when it procs (and it procs around same as crusader - faster wep dont mean it procs more remember!)

Basically guys, if you got the gold to throw at this, then its very much worth it for a DPS built warrior. It means you can really put the effort into strength, stam, attack power gems/enchants when your crit chance reaches around 21%, because Mongoose will practically take it near the 25% mark.

Summing up, this is NOT a waste of money for DPS built warriors. Far from it, as it saves me a lot of gold trying to squeeze that last couple of percent points on critical strikes.

Hope this helps some warriors out there who are undecided.

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Mongoose now has graphic starting today, May 22nd 2007. Black Temple Patch
Aqua blue lightning, pulsing every other second.
Looks great!

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Rogues benefit the most from this enchant but only morons say "This is a Rogue enchant". Warriors this an exceptionally nice enchant as well.

Tanks benefit from the 240 armor and roughly +4% Dodge that the 120 Agility gives. The +crit is the icing on the cake.

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SO. After it procs how long does it last?

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I'm affraid to tell all hunters that this is completely useless to us! I paged a Gm and replied it does not proc on range. So that should put an end to everyone asking if it does!

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sooo yeah it's useless for Druids. The GM response was "you hit w/ your claw, not your weapon". Well it was wasted gold but a lesson well learned. Fiery and Icey used to work for me, but I guess they changed that...

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When procs, this adds (at level 70):

Warrior:
3.64% crit chance
3.64% dodge chance

Rogue & Hunter:
3% crit chance
6% dodge chance

Druid:
4.8% crit chance
8.16% dodge chance

Paladin:
3.8% crit chance
4.8 dodge chance

Rest:
4.8% crit chance

I don't know about the attack speed increase.

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Malfurion server

Just got these on my rogues s2 maces.

Void Crystals: 15G each x 6 = 90G
Large Prismatic Shards: 20G x 10 = 200G
Arcane Dusts: 1.5G each x 40 = 60G
Greater Planar Essences: 8G each X 8 = 64G
Grand Total: 414G per weapon

This is a LOT cheaper if you're an enchanter. If you're not, try winning those rolls for the DE'ed blues for the prismatics; they are the most expensive part. The prices have of prismatics have soared on our server due to S3, I presume. I'd think there would be similar trends going on elsewhere, too.

First hit I did with it enchanted procced it. It procs very, very often; I was quite surprised. Like stated earlier...if you have weapons you're gonna stick with for awhile, put these on them.

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EVERYBODY MAKING CHOICES ON ENCHANTS STOP POSTING HERE! If you want to talk about the enchant itself, go to the page about the ENCHANT, not the FORMULA. I'm here trying to figure out how commonly it drops and the only two words I hear are proc and agility! HELLO! Please think of where you're posting in the future.

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This should affect ranged attacks by hunters too

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As of 6/5/2022 - after (Sunwell patch) - still not functional - This will likely be active in the pre-patch and go live through Wrath. It is hard to tell how things will go on the new client. I will keep you in formed so that you don't end up wasting your hard earned materials. Keep having fun!

As of 10/7/2021 - for those of you who are feral Druid tanks or Druid cat dps this, enchant is not functional at this point in TBC.
We tested this out on a lvl 70 druid tank with Phase 2 gear, and after 2 hours of use, the only proc we had was in human form meele swing.

Update 3/27/2022- as of phase 4 - Amani Release this enchant still does not work for Feral/Gardian Druids in form. This will be 100% released for Sunwell content phase 5. This is a god tier enchant for us.

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As of 6/5/2022 (Feral) - Attention) For those people playing TBC Classic, please be aware that if you are Feral (Bear/Cat) Mongoose still currently does NOT! work for Druids. (Updated for Sunwell)
(This will change on pre-patch)

This will be the best tanking enchant you can get for Bears. I have taken the time to test it to see if it does work or not, to keep people from wasting there hard earned materials.

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