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Kommentar von 5519

In pure stealth detection, these are inferior to Catseye Ultra Goggles (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10501). Of course the other stats are still better :]

Read more about stealth detection:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Stealth#Subtlety

Kommentar von 5189

These are worth 2 levels of anti-stealth. The newer 11 epic goggles only do 1 level worth. So these are still slightly better if all you're looking at is the stealth detection, but the higher level epic ones are many times better for actual stats along with them.

Seems like the higher level the gear, the worse they get at detecting anything...

Kommentar von 46362

Stealth Detection
as of patch 2.1

5 points of stealth detection raises your stealth detection by 1 level. So a level 70 player with 10 points of stealth detection can see stealthed targets as if he were a level 72 player.

Stealth works the same way. 5 points of stealth raises your effective stealth by 1 level. Rogues and druids can both spend talent points to get 15 points of increased stealth, raising their effective stealth by 3 levels.

***** ABILITIES AND TALENTS *****

ROGUE
Talent - Heightened Senses https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=30895
Rank 1: +3 stealth detection
Rank 2: +6 stealth detection

WARLOCK
Ability - Felhunter's Paranoia https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=19480
+30 stealth detection . . . (party buff aura with 30 yard radius around pet)

HUNTER
Ability - Track Hidden https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=19885
+30 stealth detection

HUMAN
Racial Ability - Perception https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=20600
(lasts 20 seconds, 3 minute cooldown)
+50 stealth detection

***** WORN ITEMS *****

Engineering level 350 goggles https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=40273
(there are 11 versions of these goggles, all are BoP)
+5 stealth detection

Bloodvine Lens https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19998
(Leather hat, Requires 300 engineering and level 60, BoE)
+10 stealth detection

The Night Watchman https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31333
(Leather hat, Requires level 70, rare BoE world drop)
+10 stealth detection

Catseye Ultra Goggles https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10501
(requires 220 engineering, BoE)
+18 stealth detection

Druid PVP Gloves (all are level 60 gloves, druid only)
Alliance: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=16448 https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23280
Horde: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=16555 https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22863
+10 stealth detection

***** Consumable Items *****

Catseye Elixir https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10592
(potion, created by alchemists, lasts 10 minutes)
+10 stealth detection

Elixir of the Searching Eye https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22830
(potion, created by alchemists, lasts 10 minutes)
+15 stealth detection

Distilled Stalker Sight https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31449
(potion, BoP quest reward, lasts 10 minutes)
+15 stealth detection

***** A special note regarding vanish *****

The most stealth detection you can achieve is to be a human rogue, grouped with a warlock who has a felhunter out, wearing Catseye Ultra Goggles, drinking an Elixir of the Searching Eye, and using your racial Perception. This will get you a total of 119 points of stealth detection. However, the effect of vanish is as follows:
. . . . . . . Rogue Ability - Vanish (enters an improved stealth mode for 10 sec)
. . . . . . . Rank 1: +170 stealth https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=11327
. . . . . . . Rank 2: +270 stealth https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=11329
. . . . . . . Rank 3: +370 stealth https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=26888
As you can see, it is not possible to have enough stealth detection to see an equal level rogue who has performed a vanish.

***** A special note regarding Invisibility and Invisibility Detection *****

Stealth is NOT invisibility and invisibility is NOT stealth.
Stealth detection will NOT help you see invisible targets.
Invisibility detection will NOT help you see stealthed targets.

Lesser Invisibility Potion https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=3823
+100 Invisibility

Invisibility Potion https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=9172
+200 Invisibility

Elixir of Detect Lesser Invisibility https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=3828
+100 to Invisibility Detection

Warlock spell, Detect Invisibility https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=132
+1000 to Invisibility Detection

Kommentar von Thottbot

I could see using this on my hunter when I level her up... Sure I'd lose a bit of armor, but 2% crit is 2% crit.

Remember, it's a crafted item; I won't be rolling against a rogue on it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have the lens, on my rogue, on Sargeras. It looks awesome. It's (of course) a lens, the actual lens is red and it projects a red light a few inches from the lens. I tested it against the catseye, and it wasnt much. The catseye was hardly any better, and i've been using it in duels recently, and it's working just as good.

Kommentar von Thottbot

UP HERE IN SPACE, I'M LOOKING DOWN ON YOU
MY LASERS TRACE EVERYTHING YOU DO
YOU THINK YOU'VE PRIVATE LIVES, THINK NOTHING OF THE KIND
THERE IS NO TRUE ESCAPE, I'M WATCHING ALL THE TIME

http://www.daggervale.org/misc/reanna_stormscale_bloodvinelens.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

Whaha FINALLY! After loads of farming!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Gorkermorker/WoWScrnShot_112005_174037.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok so this item says slightly increases stealth detection but the ultra catseye goggles say increases stealth detection

so it seems like the catseye would be better for stealth detection

i dont really care about the stats on it id just like it so when im fighting a rogue i could find them before they find me and then i can switch helms and ambush them quickly

so if anyone could tell me which is better this or that for stealth detection

ultra catseye- https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=9242/uralte-schrifttafel

Kommentar von Thottbot

1rogue+1druid can stealth run the tiger pit first pull all ono elite's kill em then the druids 1 sleeps 1 tiger and etangles 1 tiger while the rogue attacks the tirth tiger (keep re entagling/sleeping)

Kommentar von Thottbot

whatever it says about stealth detection, it must be wrong.

I'm a lvl 60 rogue, and I wore catseye goggles against a lvl 60 rogue wearing this...

And when i DID detect her, she was always headed in my exact direction...and not always from behind, but from the sides and the front, even.

I tested this in quite a few duels and I think bloodvine's stealth detection is at least equal to catseye, if not GREATER.

...
btw, This may not have "stats" as good as eye of rend, but ffs its stealth detection-
This is what you wear in AB, AV, and WSG if you dont like being sapped.

I cannot tell you how many rogues my rogue nails in BG due to catseye, and i cannot WAIT for the 2% crit...

Kommentar von Thottbot

What is wrong with you hunters!
Go get the crown of destruction from Rags
and don't worry about this ever again.
The souldarite alone is too expensive to make
these worth it and farming it in ZG is very
slow.
Granted it looks cool, but it's not THAT great.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this item to basically increase my e-peen when duelling other rogues, or when I know there's a rogue about in pvp. It does give you some serious edge without having to gimp yourself statswise for the other stealth detection goggles... They're nice for combat rogues such as myself , im 17/33/1 with only the 1 point in MoD, it's all good

It's a nice novelty but I don't use it for much else.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone know if this stacks with track hidden?

Kommentar von Thottbot

i see some arguing as to the best method of mining, a rogue's stealth/sap technique or a hunter's pet faithfully defending his right to mine. i offer you all this as my argument, as a mage if i find that my ore is guarded (or better yet being used by a member of the opposite faction) i sheep the target and go about my business. i can throw a sheeping over my shoulder in between mining attempts however now thanks to CT i have a sheep counter and waste far less mana, when i'm done i simply walk away pausing to laugh only if i sheeped a player. Finally, have you noticed that most wearable items are cloth. Not a conflict for a mage and several of them have very good stats or abilities for the class. Besides, a mage with a bomb-dispenser is twice as deadly as before in PvP. Hope I don't get too much competition as there seem to be few mage/engineers on my server at this point. :P

Kommentar von Thottbot

well duh thats why I asked the question noob.

I happen to have a 300 engineer and am more than friendly with zg, so I just went and checked the recipe. Deffinately says requires 60, if anyone is interested.

Kommentar von Thottbot

how much rep i need on this plan ?

Kommentar von Thottbot

A bit wierd, items engineers can learn how to make which they learn in other ways than Schematics and original training, isen't listed here. I know some stuff..

Yeti pet - www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=52413
Vendor Robot - www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=39126

Kommentar von Thottbot

Goblin Teleporter - www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=40279
Gnome Teleporter - www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=40311

Kommentar von Thottbot

I mean, maybe a feral druid would want this.. but i dont think that a feral druid really needs this when he could get a much better head from ZG... unless the druid is not running ZG and is just buying the hat..

OH WELL

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, since people are still too lazy to click the links provided by thottbot.

item
Bloodvine Lens:
Catseye Ultra Goggles:
One level of Mod

I prefer the Casteye Goggles, since the Lens is quite expensive, and when i switch my gear only to detect some &%$� NE rogue, i want to have the greatest effect possible.

Kommentar von Thottbot

First off, Levon, you're an idiot. Stop playing WoW and roll onto a game thats your level...like 'Hello Kitty Goes to the Movies'.
I don't recall the text ever saying "+2% to spell crits" so explain to me again how you, a mage, would benefit from this item even if it WAS cloth.

And to everyone saying that rogues should take the Eye of Rend over it and hunters should be going for the Crown of Destruction, stop posting. You're obviously NOT pvp oriented and you're, well...dumb.

Anyone who can wear at least leather should have one of these plain and simple. It sits in your inventory. You lose 1 space. Omg *gasp*.
Then, when you know a rogue is coming for you, you pop this baby on. It's not MEANT to be worn around at ALL times neccissarily, it's meant to be used at the appropriate time.

You might be saying "But Oxide, how would I utalize it otherwise?"
Well here's a quick tutorial:

1)Hotkey the lens onto a bar
(I like to choose side bars that are not in
the way)
----------
2)Hotkey your normal helm onto a bar
(preferably next to the lens)
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3)When you hear/see a rogue or druid in
your general area that may pose a threat,
equip this BEFORE getting into combat.
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4)Dispatch the stealther
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5)(Optional)If you MUST wear your normal helm
because you're scared of change, then CC
(thats known as 'crowd control') the stealther
using a trap, sap, etc...and wait till you're
OOC (out of combat). Put on your normal helm
and go to town.
*Please note this isn't suggested being the
stealther can also get OOC and you're right
back to not seeing them.*
----------

Saying you shouldn't have this and a normal helm is like scorning a druid for having a couple different sets of gear. Its equipment for the appropriate occassion, plain and simple.

Rogue, hunter, warrior, pally, even shaman *shutters* should have this if they're given the means and the opportunity. Don't be a fool thinking that its not useful when it most definitely is.

And unlike the catseye goggles, its cool to wear this in combat. +12 stam. 2% to crit. I mean come on, anyone who CAN wear this DOES benefit from it.

My last comment is I do think/hope they'll make a cloth/caster version that's +2% to spell crit or something. Would only be fair to the casters, but for now its obviously not and till it happens you have my condolences, but please don't sit here and post "ZomG this COULD totally be a 1337 caster item!1!11oneone" when it's not and wouldn't benefit ya, even if it was. Till then, Catseye Ultra Goggles are gonna have to be your stealth detection buddy. Or, of course, you could always invest in a Gnomish Alarm-O-Bot.

Oxide
==
Make something idiot proof and the world will create a better idiot.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i like the skin

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Has anyone tested to see which of the two are better for stealth detection?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm gonna make that and wear it just because it looks cool.

Hey this is leather too. First leather engineering item i've seen. Mostly cloth, very little mail.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

never seen this before. looks cool 4 a rogue

Kommentar von Allakhazam

EXCELLENT stealth detection.

I'm a MC DPS build without MoD and I see rogues with MoD before they see me.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Submitted screenshots of the Bloodvine Lens - see signature for others.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

seems cool for rogues and also for feral druids due to good AC, stamina boost and stealth detection is always useful.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can this be made and worn by a level 19 twink?

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