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Kommentar von 6952

This is one of the best DPS caster weapons one can obtain before Naxx. The only weapon that is comparable to this one is the Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff from regalia turnin in AQ40, but it requires killing the Twin Emperors and clearing the trash to C'Thun, as opposed to the Staff of the Shadow Flame being a drop from Nefarian in BWL.

Kommentar von Ravus

This is really the only weapon worth getting for pure dps caster pre-AQ ( Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff / Sharpened Silithid Femur ) and certainly the only one from BWL.

Sadly the drop rate really is that low, my guild has only had two of them drop in many months of farming nef.

Kommentar von 7512

The only weapon you with see comparable to this pre-Naxxramas is the Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff, the quest item for which is another low drop rate off AQ bosses. When presented the opportunity, reguardless of class, I suggest casters pick up this weapon.

Kommentar von 7601

I am very pleased with this staff. Sadly it does have a very low drop rate but I was lucky (and smart) enough for this to drop on my guild's first Nefarian kill, and having hoarded up enough DKP to snag it with no questions >=D. Slap a spell power enchant on this baby and get to work.

Kommentar von 8356

With the drop rate so low, a more feasible choice to strive for is the Master Dragonslayer's Orb, and pick up a Grand Marshal's Mageblade in a few days of PVPing. Nef's head is a 100% drop that yields the Orb and the GM Mageblade is only 22,500 honor. You gain 16 spell damage at the cost of 7 int and 1% crit going with the Orb/GM Mageblade combo, but its much easier to attain. If you have the chance to get the staff, go for it.

Kommentar von 67947

I was lucky enough to score this item a month prior to BC on my mage. With a +30 spell damage enchant, this was pretty nuts spell damage prior to BC and easily the best caster weapon outside AQ40/Naxx with the only real comparison being the Grand Marshal/High Warlord pvp staff.

At level 60, rank 11 fireball crits of 4k+ were achievable with not even +500 fire damage with a deep fire spec (that was prior to the now infamous mage coefficiency nerf). AV with this weapon was pretty crazy. I carved up many an unsuspecting Hordie like they were rabbits. Of course that was back in the day before resilience but that’s a story for another time (yes, in my opinion resilience utterly ruined pvp for all classes that rely on crits such as fire mages and ms warriors).

Kommentar von Thottbot

anyone who really raids places like this knows that it really doesnt matter what you think about who should get this staff, it's going to go to the person who spends the points on it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Why argue and waste tons of time and readers time posting crap?

Simple, the Guild will most likely tell you who can bid for this (oh for those of you who don't know, its bidding not rolling in end game instances). As a priest I would love this but know mostly likely than not I'm third priority on this staff. Just because locks and mages can't get staffs anywhere near as good as us priest can with benedection.

That being said if you are in a guild that runs BWL and successfully, don't worry you'll get your staff soon enough.

Kommentar von Thottbot

For all the posts I see of priests and druids claiming MC/BWL drops with this bonus on it, since they think they put it to the ultimate use, I'd like to clear something up for you.

Do you know how many weapons have +dmg to spells? The answer is zero, that enhancement dosen't exist. On the other hand, there are several weapons with +healing, which in most cases give a higher bonus then dmg/healing ones.

The whole reason for the dmg/healing effect is that it applies to all schools of magic, not so classes that can do both can "put it to best use". That's why, for example, mage specific armor has the dmg/healing effect; it applies to all of their spells.

So, when you look at it from this point of view then, yes, it does benenfit all casters. But since this is raid drop, nobody in your guild is going to care if you can take advantage of both the healing and the damage bonus, they're going to do what's best for the guild.

If your a priest, you heal in raids, and you have a class staff that gives over +100 to healing. If your a druid, you heal in raids, and there are maces in MC and BWL that give +healing which you will likely be given the sole rights to, with the exception of paladins/shamans possibly bidding as well.

That leaves mages and warlocks. Weapons with dmg/healing are the only ones they can put to use and since they have spells like shadowbolt, frostbolt, fireball they get the full bonus from the enhancement.

This is how my guild handles drops with +dmg/healing. It always goes to mages and warlocks first (both have equal rights). If a priest or druid wants an item with this stat, they are both next in line since they can get better items for their raid role and its obvious they would only want this for pvp.

Sorry for the rant, but I was just tired of priest and druids posting claims to weapons with this stat because they "put it to best use" or "omg mages/warlocks can't heal".

Kommentar von Thottbot

Can someone please show me an epic staff that has stamina as its primary attribute? I dont think one exists.....at least not that has any decent chance to crit and spell damage withit.

Also to the argument that when we life tap we waste the Priests mana...thats true, but I have over 6000 health and 7000 mana as a warlock, I could be wrong but I can lifetap 848 health and get 1018 mana back, that leaves me with 5152 health and the equivelent of 8018 mana. At 5152 health, I still have more than a mage....

Kommentar von Thottbot

qazws threw down in all areas on this one. Props.

Here's how our guild works it ATM.

With our DKP system anyone with the DKP can roll on this staff as long as they can hold it in their hands.

However we do URGE people to think hard before trying to roll on something that would benefit another class much more.

For instance we have a few Warriors that would love the Blastershot Launcher. But when the bidding comes around they don't roll because we have hunters attending raids who still want it. They know once all our hunters get the leaf that they will get one if they spend the DKP.

We rarely have much in the way of arguments over this kind of stuff as we are all pretty decent people and anyone that said something like this:

"Hunter weapon because they get the most use from it"

They would just get laughed at because everyone would think it was a joke.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As my holy Priest, My Benediction increases healing power by 106, and other stats are as good as this staff.

Therefore, it's not necessary for a priest to roll for it.

But if i get it, i will definitely unlearn my telent and become a shadow priest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i got a lvl 60 resto druid, and tho i would love this staff, i think its much more powerful in the hands of a mage or warlock. the high INT and +2% crit isnt meant for healing, cause critical heals have a high threat, and are unnessesary. erm a moonkin druid.....they better be the best damn moonkin druid on the server to get a stab at this.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The yellow glow on the staff is from the +22 int buff. The staff itself doesn't have an aura.

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Kommentar von Thottbot

HHm, I just got this staff on just the 2nd nef kill of my guild. It cost 135 hrs raiding time to get it ( in dkp), in the end i was bidding against a druid.

Now i have mixed feelings about this( being a mage), on one hand i do think people with dkp deserve to spend it on whatever they want, on the other hand certain items are much better for some classes over the other.

Now for a mage/lock, you simply cannot get a better item for your wep slot than this staff. All other classes can get relatively the same benefits with other items on the same slot. So i would think long and hard before bidding on this. In the end it comes down to your guildmates letting you have this, and no matter your class, if you deserve it, you will get it sooner or later.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Put it this way, out of clear caster drops:

What can a Lock/Mage roll on as a weapon in BWL:

Shadow Wing Focus Staff - Drakes - (Staff)
Claw of Chromaggus - Chrom - (Dagger)
Staff of the shadow flame - Nef - (Staff)

Now what can Priests/Druids roll on:

Shadow Wing Focus staff - Drakes - (Staff)
Claw of Chromaggus - Chrom - (Dagger)
Staff of the shadow flame - Nef - (Staff)
Lok'amir il Romathis - Nef - (Mace)

And ofc Pally's

Lok'amir il Romathis - Nef - (Mace)
Herald of Woe - Flamegor - (2H mace)
(Plus DPS weapons)

Now if you look at all that, there are many overlaps, so there will always be contention. However, I do wonder why Druids and Priests would not rather take Lok'amir il Romathis over the staff of the shadow flame. The mace has the same Dam/heal as the staff, and you can also have you choice of healing/dam/stats offhand. If this staff dropped for my Druid, I myself wouldn't deny the locks and mages what little choice they have considering that mace is out there. Ok you loose 2% crit, but you gain whatever's on your offhand. Just take a look as some of these:

Master Dragonslayer's Orb
Royal Scepter of Vek'lor
Lei of the Lifegiver
Sartura's Might
Talon of Furious Concentration

So before you go racing off rolling on the first thing that drops, look around a little to see what's available, and I think you'll find those poor Mages and Locks are reduced to tears when they see Druids/Priests with the Staff of the shadow Flame. Give me Lok'amir il Romathis any day.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Before you start flaming with your "omgwtfpwn", "I'm a priest and I will roll", "lol dkp", etc. �$!@�, maybe you should note that the drop rate is <5%. That means you'll get one of these about every five months, if you take Nefarian down every week, AND if you're in average luck.

Thinking it further, you can end up going on for two years without a single one of these dropping. (Just think of the quests that you've probably done too, where drop rate of objective item is <5% from some type of monster. You might end up killing A LOT of them before it drops.)

Point being: Don't look forward into getting this (or any other really low drop rate item!) too early on. You might end up really disappointed, when others are getting sets and other weapons from Ahn'Qiraj, Blackwing Lair etc. and you're just saving points, waiting.. and waiting... and waiting.

15 weeks of Nefarian for my guild now, no drop yet. But damn, it'll be a bomb when it drops.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have a 60 priest and would honestly give priority to a Mage or Warlock for this item. While Staff of the Shadow Flame is better than Anathema for Shadow Priest PvP, Benediction is better for healing, plain and simple.

My point is this: Mages and Warlocks would use this item as a primary weapon while Priests would ONLY use it as a secondary PvP weapon, opting instead for Benediction when healing (considering the +heal is greater by 22, Intellect is increased by 2 and you still recieve the +2% crit chance on holy spells). Therefore, in my humble opinion, it shouldn't go to a class that would let it sit in their bags for even a moment. A pure damage class could make FAR greater use out of it considering the options available to the primary healing class(es). Yes, I believe this goes for the Druids out there too.

Again, this is simply my view as a Priest knowing what I know about the weapons available to my class. Congratulations to anyone who recieves this, it is an excellent addition to any caster's collection.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok, to the topic of "such a hunter thing" hunters always want a weapon that'looks cool' but they are mostly complete idiots because of course all hunters think that all epic items are entitled to their pathetic excuse for a class.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Haha make that Triple... someone delete these :)

Edited, Sat Oct 1 04:48:17 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The only thing worse than the HUNTAR ITEMZ ZOMG LOLOL is the people who whine about it constantly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Druid staff? that is prolly the most stupid thing i have heard yet in Wow.
Mages/warlocks have the right to the staff, only when ALL mages/warlocks have it, other classes can get it. Priests are last on the list imo, as benediction is better, and is more easily obtained than this one. secondly, mages/warlocks have less options when it comes to end-game staffs.

The one that said druid staff, omfg you must be a lvl 13 pally as your noob level is off the charts!

Edited, Wed Jan 11 17:12:09 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Staff of the Shadow Flame
+29 Intellect
+24 Stamina
+18 Spirit
Passive: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.
Passive: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 84.

Claw of Chromaggus + Tome of Shadow Force
+17 Intellect
+15 Stamina
Passive: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 64.
Passive: Restores 4 mana per 5 sec.
Passive: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by up to 34.

There is comparsion for Warlocks. Everyone can make their own decision, I think I'll stick with dagger since it's cheaper in dkp and tome costs no dkp at all. Staff has more stats and 2% crit but lacks 16 spell damage, but I think it is a bit better than claw + tome. Other classes could always replace tome with another tome or Master Dragonslayer's orb.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

droped from the 1st Nef kill
mage got it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

god damnit you are retarded... do you even read anyones post? or just helf of it?

*No one said give this staff to your priest you *!@#ing idiot...*

We are just saying priest along with mage,warlock,druid,shaman can use this Staff of the Shadow Flame. it is a ALL caster type staff.

How stupid can you be Aprudo if you think we are saying give this staff to priest first and only them first... NOOOOO one said anything like that you nub.

ooo and yes about Benediction
Benediction
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Staff
134 - 222 Damage Speed 3.00
(59.3 damage per second)
+31 Intellect
+10 Stamina
+12 Spirit
+20 Shadow Resistance
Classes: Priest
Requires Level 60
Use: Calls forth Anathema.
Equip: Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 106.
Segnung when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Staff
134 - 222 Damage Speed 3.00
(59.3 damage per second)
+31 Intellect
+22 Stamina
+20 Shadow Resistance
Classes: Priest
Requires Level 60
Use: Calls forth Benediction.
Equip: Restores 7 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by up to 69.
Bannfluch

First of all LOOK at Staff of the Shadow Flame
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
141 - 247 Damage Speed 3.20
(60.6 damage per second)
+29 Intellect
+24 Stamina
+18 Spirit
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 84.

dude you are and idiot to say Benediction is better. 1 Benediction only has +2 to crit with holy spells and only holy spells.... shadow flame has +2 to crit ON ALL spells,and all means damage spells and healing spells.Benediction has 106 healing only, shadow flame has 84 and that is damage AND healing. so you lose about 20 healing points which IS NOTHING you crying little punk. if your going to tell me 20 somthing points is going to save a wipe or tanks life you are an idiot.2 Benediction can be turned into Anathema which is nothing to what shadow flame is...
actually really hate to say it but shadow flame is better then benedicion. i have a mage60,i have a priest60 i have a warrior60 and another priest60, my 2 priests ones holy ones shadow.i would use both benedicion and shadow flame, everyone has a *RIGHT* to things *THEY CAN USE*.

Now agian Aprudo im not saying give shadow flame to all the priest and only them, im saying they should be able to get it like everyone that is a caster. if its done by dkp then who has the most will get it anyways so if a priest uses his dkp points let him this is a really nice staff for everyone mages and warlocks,druids and shamans as well.

i want shadow flame with my mage,aswell as with my shadow priest and maby holy sents its only 20 to 26 healing points off which is really nothing like really...but i also want Benedicion it has its goodnesses too, loooks awesome and nice int and you can change its looks, which is pretty cool.

and another thing Aprudo you do know priests have shadow word:pain right and undead priest get a plague type spell does 900 to 1100 shadow damage and heals it to the priest? you do know that with benediction you dont get any damage increase but with shadow flame your damage gets increased up too 84 and mind blaste can hit from 800 to 1k NP, which if your in a raid and out of 40 ppl 10 are left fighting a boss that has 2 % damn right ill mind blaste or power word pain , if there is a tank still standing id keep healing also. thats the thing man ppl can do more then one thing at a time and in the case i just showed shadow flame would be handy to a priest, it also gives healing dont get much better then both damage and healing and then the +2 to crit on damage and healing its about the Best CASTER STAFF around FOR EVERYONE that is a caster.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Warlocks and Mages can't use Lok'amir il Romanthis Lok'amir il Romathis more about avaliability of good damage items than anything. Get that mace + a decent offhand and you have a combo that can do more damage than this staff. To me, it's not even a question of "is Staff of the Shadowflame better than Benediction?" or "Mages and Warlocks DPS more therefore they should get this item, right?"

All classes have the right to go for DMG items, but don't let your greed get in the way of seeing certain restrictions. My guild hopes that people can see what options they have, versus what options other classes have. Mages and Warlocks can use Claw of Chromaggus, yeah that's true... but that item isn't on the same level as Nefarian's drops.

So if you believe that as a Priest, Druid, or Shaman, that you deserve this Staff as much as a Mage or Warlock, remember that they don't have two weapons they can use for DPS off Nefarian, only one.

Either way, if you get this staff, congratulations, because it's very, very rare. Make sure you don't put it to shame by not enchanting it :D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Groo get out of the basement and realize that the priority of SOTSF is for Mage/Lock..

/end discussion

Kommentar von Allakhazam

=P we just got this staff, AND Edge of chaos last night, oh and the nef kill before we got Lok Amir. We have killed nef four times.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's greedy little jerks like many of the above that has sent my Priest into permanent retirement. T2 and some T3 gear.

Beliieve it or not, Priests do need to do other things than raid and heal. Like make money to pay for the raiding.

Or grinding rep.

Try as I might I wasn't able to heal a single thing to death.

And the 'Raid Progression' line is a load giiven to those gullible enough to swallow it, in an effort to cover their greed. WoW raiding is easy mode. Far easier to raid in WoW than say EQ.

Go ahead and be looot piggies, and bring your own bandages.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hunter Loot.
Definiately the best Hunter staff out there.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ok, this is NOT a hunter weapon, you're a complete newb... Its for any caster basically...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Most definatly Mage/Warlock staff, also the clearly best weapon in-game for Mages/Locks. Druids can use other stuff and priests got Benediction/Anathema.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

OMG got this baby last night on our first nefarian kill for 1120 DKP :D:D:D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

which class schould get this staff?

look at it this way:
there are three good caster weapons in bwl - shadowflame, claw o chrom and lokamir.

shadowflame and claw can be worn by all caster classes.

lokamir can only be worn by priests, droods & shamis.

in my opinion, priests/droods & shamis should stick with "their" nefarian weapon .. lokamir. if i could wear maces i would take lokamir, becuz its a @#! onehand with 86 spelldmg and stats.

warlocks should stay away from claw o chrom, becuz manareg is wastet on us, we got lifetap - let a priest or drood have it, so he can give u more HoTs ;)

from a raid point of view, this staff belongs in the hands of a dmgcaster. the role of a priest/drood/shaman in the raid is to heal, and there are much better heal staffes out there (rempant growth / AQ akolyte staff).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

to let you know there are places to rate your IQ but thats beside the point. this staff is for mage,priest,warlock,druids and shamans. Get that in you heads, it has damage and Healing and im sick of saying it,some of you are too stupid that some of you cant see the healing and that a healing class could use this.i can see it so i know, why some of you that say this is mage/warlock are frigin idiots and im sorry to say it but somone has to.smiles wickedly.

Edited, Tue May 2 10:54:02 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

seriously Rendit you damn n00b, i know it adds healing but there are far FAR! better healing staffs, so l2p.

And dont call other ppl retards just because you cant make a simple assumption, it adds healing yes, but it also adds damage therefore its mostly meant for the dmg casters, why? because as i said be4 this is the best weapon (with acolyte) for mages and warlocks, and it isnt for healers, so go away l2p, and haev fun in MC, where i assume is where ur at.

OHH! and u said "and if the staff was not ment to be used by healing class's it would not have the healing but it does and the other stats and bonus's work well with all caster class's"
All +all dmg items have +healing as well u freaking n00b, that doesnt mean they are all meant for healers, like blackwing cabal, mish'undare, mana igniting cord, hell even robe of the archmage which is classed mage has +healing, so seriously stop talking about stuff you will never get or even see drop.

Edited, Sat May 13 08:28:54 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I don't see how this is a warlock staff over a mage staff...

Because of the sta? Mages especially need sta in their non set items more than warlocks, because we don't get a natural bonus to it with our set unlike warlocks, and it's important to have a lot of stamina in many of the BWL fights.

It's great for either class. As for the other classes, well they generally have better options, such as benediction or the mace.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I don't know, this thing seems to be a great balance for all casters that can use it. Warlocks and mages will drool over this because it has the highest +damage of any staff that I've seen so far, but because all magic school-inspecific +damage stats include healing, this would also be decent for a healer. I think the only problem with giving this to a healer is that the Staff of Rampant Growth is arguably the best non-classed healer staff in the game. If you are a guild that goes by DKP, please don't put priority on classes, anyone that can use it will want this thing, outside of priests that have Benediction already. Also, for priests that don't have Benediction, I would highly suggest that you do try to get it. EoS is easy to come by now, EoD is about 50% on Domo (if you can get to Nef there's no way in hell you can't beat Domo), and in the long run it'll last you longer.

Crits do matter to me as a druid, I love the 50%+ crit of Regrowth, and every bit of crit loving I can get, I try to hold on to until +healing upgrades become more important. Couple downsides to that is Regrowth contributes to overhealing and crits pull aggro faster.

I would say that any DD caster or any healer that can equip staves that consider this an upgrade should have an equal shot at it. Myself, I wouldn't take it as a druid.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Its funny everyone is arguing over a staff that 95% of the people will never see drop. Now quit pigon holeing druids, havent you ever heard of balanced spec. This is a great staff for a balanced druid. Not only would it help them when they have to fill the healing roll but they will be able to nuke with it in moonkin form. And Before you say "no guild runs BWL with moonkins" My guild runs BWL with 2 moonkins the warlocks and mages love the +3% crit they get with them.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Seen hunter w/ this staff...dont kno y he had it but he did :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4180/nemesis2ae.th.jpg

got it on mah lovely lock :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This staff would be excellent with my hunter. I love arcane shot and this would help alot.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Greetings all
ok lets take a look at this and take some time to think things though.

Staff of the Shadow Flame
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
141 - 247 Damage Speed 3.20
(60.6 damage per second)
+29 Intellect
+24 Stamina
+18 Spirit
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 84.

first of all some of you ppl need to stop telling ppl what they most get and most use.
for 1 this staff needs to be looked at from all sides! stop saying well it has damage and healing but healers need to go for a better healling staff, please stop. thats so lame just becouse healers heal dont mean they cant use some damage too.
2 non of you are even thinking right when looking at the +2 to crit, its not just damage spells its not just healing spells, it is *Both* like really just like eye of the beast look

Eye of the Beast
Binds when picked up
Trinket Miscellaneous
Classes: Warlock Mage Shaman Druid Priest
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 2%.

Edited, Jun 30th 2006 at 12:20pm EDT by groothemanslayer

Kommentar von Allakhazam

even though there bin many talks about this item being not real it might be real and if it is ,its the Damage dps Dream weapon.

Alex's Test Beatdown Staff
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Staff
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 840.
Alex's Test Beatdown Staff

now there is your wish a staff that ADDs a pile of damage adds healing to but lol im not going to go there. i would not use that anyways the +840 is nice but no stats other then that no int or stam, no +crit:( yes this prob aint real but could be nice to think so hehe(^_^) just think 840+Damage hehe

Kommentar von Allakhazam

good dmg stats ...
hmmm i like it :D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Every other comment is stating "This is a hunter item". It really gets annoying. Yes we realize hunters can use almost every item in the game, but that doesn't mean it's best for their class. This staff for example: 2% crit chance with spells and +84 damage is crazy for casters and healers. Also the stats on this item are godly to them. Hunters, you have your epic bow/staff quest, so please, keep the "This is a hunter item" comments to a minimum.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This has to be it. Are there any 1h+off-hand caster combos better than this staff?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://home.tiscali.se/351521/WOW/sff1.jpg
http://home.tiscali.se/351521/WOW/sff2.jpg

Got it when Khadgars Rage (EU) downed him couple of days ago.

Edited, Fri Oct 7 09:42:13 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I wonder how many large brilliants you'd get from disenchanting such an item?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

.......and I who drooled at staff of dominance :O

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Of course this is a mage/lock staff. Priests got Anathema/Benediction which is at leat equaly as good or even better in some cases (more + healing on Benediction).

But all sensible people know this. Only a real twat would consider giving this to a Priest over mage/lock.

This is also backed up by the fact that I have never seen a priest or druid, or in fact a picture of one, with this staff. Only mages and locks.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wait, healing too? To say that ONLY mages and warlocks get this is stupid. Druid in genesis or the ZG armor will eat this up. They have a swiftbuild in balanace that reduces casting time of all spells by .5 sec on spell crit. Including healing.

Do mages heal? Nope so... half of the staffs power is wasted because it says crit.

Warlocks benefit from the healing I think because of the soul link, tap or whatever that is.

Then you look at shamans and druids. The only 2 classes that use staves that can legitamatly heal, take advantage of the crit and cast on offense.

Im a druid and im constantly getting the shaft. Mageblade goes to Mages/Warlocks. I was like cool ill get staff of dominance.... NO, Mages and warlocks.

Screw you guys, stop being greedy :x

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Petty bickering over classes aside, priests can use Benediction as healers, but priests can also spec shadow or PI and DPS. I've been a holy priest since my first talent point at level 10 (Try grinding a holy priest in the days of retail, it's a pain). I've recently decided to play with PI for a bit, and this staff is one I'm considering.

The stats are a direct increase over Benediction and the +healing is comparable. The benefits being that it have +dmg as well, allowing me to DPS and still be a good healer without swapping weapons, which triggers a 1 sec cooldown and could mean a dead tank. The staff also retains the 2% to crit, but it affects all spells and not just holy, making a nice staff for shadow priests, too.

Renditis at least right in the sense that the staff is good for all classes. Yes, some classes will probably benefit more from it, like mages and locks, but saying that a priest or druid won't benefit at all is just naïve.

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It has a skull on it so it's a warlock item. The first time Blizzard showed the new tier 2 graphics, they showed this staff with it. So only warlocks should roll on it.

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Just kidding of course. =) Scared ye didn't I?

It's very comparable to Gesegneter Akolythenstab der Qiraji Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff. Compared to Staff of the Shadow flame, it has +2 hit at the cost of +1 crit and +8dmg. And instead of spirit, it has some more stamina/intellect.
We want to kill the Twin Emperors today, wouldn't it be nice if the Regalia would drop from them?

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Got this staff 2 days ago, 3rd Nefa kill, warlocks decided they didn't want it, most were using the Sorcerous dagger or whatever it's called, so priority went straight to me, and as a mage this staff makes me happy. Very happy indeed :)

But overall it should be a Warlock staff.

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I wonder how many morons would desenchant such an item ?

Edited, Sun Oct 9 13:21:08 2005

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Boobai, you silly goose. "Since its not class specified, anyone with stave using ability can roll on this." This is not a warrior staff. :p

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Locks do have a use for +healing, drain life, death coil, and siphon life are all affected by bonuses to healing, hence why Nemesis gear gives you a bonus to damage/healing.

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It dropped for us the first time last night... Went shockingly to a druid! Dunno what he was thinking, but everyone can do what they want with the dkp they've earned. I dont care since im a warrior, but the mages & warlocks got pretty upset.

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the picture above shows it is mage/lock
(on picture it is 2 mages that got it so \o/ at druid with it and priest)

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double post -lag 4tw

Edited, Mon Apr 3 19:22:20 2006

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cpdoom how stupid are you? Look at the damn staff actually like take 5 sec to LOOK at it, CAN you see where it adds HEALING ,ok. i rate your stupidness to a 98% and you IQ of 2% i just dont unserstand how you can say a healing class cant use a item that adds healing..... you are 1 domb Mo Fo.

Edited, Sat Apr 29 15:04:23 2006

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Like my subject, casters are casters. This is a caster staff. Thus casters should use it. I'm not saying to let the priest roll need on it unless he's shadow, but still, it is a caster staff.

I'm a priest myself, not shadow, but I'm discipline. I'm kind of upset that people would talk that way about the people who actually decide to heal instead of do damage. I love this staff. My priest will be going to BWL in the next month or so, and I hope to God that this staff will drop. But I know I won't be the only caster in the group of 40. But I'll run BWL over and over again, letting people get it until I do, or if my guild decides for me to.

But this staff works for everyone. I'm a crit healer. In a way, it makes it almost impossible for non-protection warriors to hold aggro when 1 out of 5 heals is a crit, not counting Prayer of Healing and the such. I even use Power Infusion to power it up more. I love doing damage, and one way or another, everyone wants to do damage with their class.

Right now I have a 14% chance to crit on my healing or damage spells, and that's not counting my armor or weapons. I'm pretty powerful with my casting, whether it's healing or damage. So don't say this is not made for all classes. They didn't put "Classes: Mage, Warlock" on the staff. Even the Belt of the Archmage (Gürtel des Erzmagiers is for all classes compared to the Robe (Robe des Erzmagiers Blizzard understands that we need our freedom to do whatever we want, so they've let this staff be unrestricted by class for a reason.

To let us do insane damage...no matter what caster class we are!

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No Aprudo it is you and them other ppl that are failing to understand any sense at all in this matter.

ppl like you are pissing me off, telling healer's that they can only get healing gear or gear that just adds + to healing.

ok lets turn this around now, you can only use items or gear with + damage only! how does that sound?

thats right now that you think healer class's must have healer gear only, You most have damage gear only. do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

Now that means oooo wait the staff here gives damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 84. so that means no one can use it aye?

im sorry man you and any other person to say a healing class or damage class cant use items that adds both damage and healing are retarted.

i dont see why ppl cant come to the small understanding that some items are ment for *both* types *healers and damage* class's end of story.

Also you and alot of other ppl are failing to understand that*YOU* or *I* and even *Blizzard*dont have the right to tell ppl what they can and can not use.
alot of you fail to see that....

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groothemanslayer, you really made me laugh.
Not sure if you're serious or just kidding around. Can anyone really be THAT clueless? Anyways, thanks for some very very fun reading. Needed that

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Actually, a fire crit with ignite does 210% dmg in total.

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Since i find the 2h specc useless for a shaman and spelldamage and crit more usefull that is clearly a weapon i would take. Right now im using Staff of Dominance and well what can i say i own's almost every other shaman with other 2h weapons.

Edited, Tue Nov 22 06:37:14 2005

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Catchaout i dont care about who should have this staff, but giving it to a druid is a crime. Yeah, moonkin in bwl is noobish, get crit and overaggro, hell yeah. If u bid against a lock/mage on this item, u are a moron!

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can you name a better druid staff? will of arlokk - good, but this is still better imo...
staff of dom - basically a junior version of this... anything better that healing druids can use, tell me, im interested

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Anyone saying this is a druid/priest staff is most likely not in a guild that downs nefa.
Oomkin druids are not wanted in raids, and balance spec is utterly gimped.
This is mage/warlock staff, but give it to mages first if they want it, since mages and not warlocks are the primary ranged dps class; warlock is a debuff class and are damage inefficient.

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well i decided to make a "Best of Rendit post" because iam bored. anyway i limited it to just the first page, cuz a post bordering on infinity would be unwise on a site like this. Anyway check out the hot stuff he posted.

.also besides Looking kick ass it has 29 int ,24stam, 18spir.this staff is GOOD for mage,priest,warlock,druid, maby shaman i dont know if they can use staffs. now ppl that say this is just for 1 class you are 100% stupid and need to learn more about this game and what are good for class's. (ppl need to learn more about the game, but...but... can shammies use staff! (the answer is ofc, yes they can:p)

i was being a smart ass about the IQ thing. IQ is rated in points,could also in % alot of things can be used in %.like 130 IQ points could be 100%,just like cuting that in helf would make it 65 IQ points could make it 50%. but sents i was being a smart ass i dont see why it matters. (not even gonna comment on this one, its just too rofl)

Rendit... if your guild let healers get this the officers are really stupid :DD

theres better staffs for healers than this so................

lead to
Nutsio you are an idiot i never said in any of my Post's that its a healer only staff. i clearly said this is a good staff for well read my posts lol(he never said u did lawl, he just (as the 58th person) tried to show u that u were/are wrong(hard to say if u have finally realized that this is infact most beneficial for mages/locks and thus should they have priority on it(however i doubt it:p))

ok this got boring quite fast, for more funny contradictions and redicule see Rendits posts.

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Well well well, this seems to be a heated argument. Im going to throw in my opinion. Yes there are better staves for healers, but how often are those presented. If this is looted, and a healer has the dkp, its right there, in front of their face instead of just on a wish list. Also I agree this is MUCH better suited in the hands of a mage or lock, but it doesnt mean it ISNT useful in a healers arms either. And we all know how important healers are... they allow you to get far enough to get this staff. So rather then cutting people off from getting an item they can use, let people go for it. Thats like telling the black person that they cant have sunscreen because white people need it more. Also druids have damage spells too so stop refering to them as only healers... if you are wondering Im a mage. And yes I want it, I would kill for it. And if I lost to a healer I would be pissed. But if I lost to ANYONE I would be pissed. Stop being hardasses.

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its nice that everyone is comparing all these staffs and have brought up some nice points. i think we have over looked something.

1. guilds dont like shadow priests at this point of the game

2. priests HEAL

3. mages/locks are primary DPS

from my experience in bwl. i have not seen anyone of our priests stop healing to smite nef down. this would suit a lock, a mage, a druid, or a shaman better because they can heal and do damage. and they can switch roles and do good at either.

my 2c

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Here's another pic:

Staff of the Shadow Flame

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I don't get all the "Warlock/mage only!" posts...ummm...hello? It has +healing on it...since when do locks and mages use healing? The best class for this is in my opinion druid. Priests get Anathema/Benediction. A druid is really the only class that can make total use of ALL the stats the staff has to offer. Yeah, any caster would like it, and it pretty much owns all other caster staffs, but it could be BEST used by a druid.

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dream staff for my lock ...
amazing stats and looks super kickass

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"Warlock: 1)Stamina 2)Intellect 3)+Spell Damage"

Good lord! get a clue.

The ablity to drain life and turn life to mana makes warlocks ideal for going pure damage in a way no other class can.

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I dont care wat the hell anyone says this staff goes to the warlocks. I wont even explain why becuase if u dont kno that already ur a noob who will never see it drop.

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Niniuar is right but...

really never want see hunter with this :D

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its mage/warlock priority in most high end guilds, dr00ds are 3rd i assume, the reason? well this is the best for mages/warlocks(togheter with the acolyte from AQ40 quest), and it isnt the best setup for dr00ds, as long as u assume the dr00ds heal in raids, which they always do, unless u have the instance on farm in which case u can let them go feral, LOLOLOL CPDOOM U N00B! WHATS A BETTER SETUP FOR DR00DS THEN!, well lets say u want some +dmg then go with Lok'amir il Romathis and a nice offhand of ur choice, with that u can get more +dmg and better stats. You cant imagine the whine that mages and warlocks have utered cuz lok'amir is a mace and therefore unuseable for us. So plz stay away from SotSF dr00d, tho not many guilds that doesnt have mage/warlock prio on it, and thx god for that=)

Edit: and dr00ds dont rly need +spell dmg since they only heal in instances anyway(almost at least). Ofc there exsist a few exceptions, but a dr00ds main job in a raid is to heal and gief innervate ofc=). If u dont recognize this its because u dont know very much about raiding high end instances, and thus will never even get the chance to get this staff=). And if we're talking PvP wise most dr00ds prefer to be feral, and with AQ40 and emerald green dwagons lots of new feral items has been implemented.
So i see no probs in this being mage/warlock prio, and moonkin dr00ds can die in a ditch imo.

Edited, Thu Apr 27 07:16:12 2006

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Its not all of you, i wanna thank every person that understands that this is a caster staff=*EVERY caster damage or healing* i thank you for posting and adding to what is true and facts but ppl dont lissin or learn. when i say ppl i dont mean everyone here, just the idiots! like the idiots that say this is for only 1 class or attacking my or others posts when we are right and they are wrong.for the ppl that are idiots or too stupid to know anything about WoW or even have the guts to ask blizz about this becouse you idiots know we are right... this is a caster staff for all caster class's im done saying this and im off to play WoW good luck with anyone who wants this staff.

Edited, Fri Jun 23 12:39:45 2006

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You honestly consider Staff of Dominance and Shadow Wing Focus Staff to be better then Staff of Shadow Flame? Staff of the Qiraj Prophets ain't better either.

Blessed Qiraj Acolyte Staff is better for dps, but when you take this for an example, why not get Blessed Qiraj Augur Staff for yourself if you are healingspecced?

And by the way, Benediction is better for healing, period.

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Hoy &*!@

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How cute you guys are thinking people roll in BWL...

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This is an Adsatadsa staff IMHO... I'm a mage and it will work great for all my needs I cast spells and need crit and stats and int for my mana and stuff. Plus the extra stamina will keep me alive a little longer since the healers in my guild never heal me. The extra damage will be neato and I'll rock everyone and everyone will see me and say ahhhh when I stand in IF on the bridge and when I am in battlegrounds I will pwn everyone because I'll be leetzors!

omgz I'm 12 years old tomorrow wootz

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and i thinks in every guild it goes to mages/locks first :E

sry about "double post"

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hunter loot xD

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Okay I have to point out that if given the opportunity to have this staff I would take it. Whether I was druid, mage, priest, or warlock. I am in fact a warlock though. I do have to point one thing out though. I see posts over and over again about dam/heal items. I don't get what the fuss is all about. To think that healing classes think that they are being limited because most people do not want to let them roll on dam/heal items is insane. First of all... You are not being limited. In fact it is the very opposite. Warlocks have healing spells too. Should I be allowed to roll on say the Boots of Pure Thought or the Pure Elementium Band? Both of these are useable by me and have +62 and +53 healing respectivly. Even though I can use them and would benifit from them (Hey when farming I heal my voidwalker), I never expect, nor want them. Why? They are an upgrade from what I've got? Because they are more usefull to another class. In fact lets not even say they are more usefull. Lets say that they are far far more uber to another class. Cause lets face it. A priest is gonna love having the best healing rings or whatever far more than I will. This staff you are arguing about is not the best for your class. Blizzard made far better +healing gear than they did +damage gear. You are not getting screwed out of a bad ass staff. You have much better. We don't. To a mage or warlock this is it. This staff is the shizzle, bizzle, wtfomgpwn! We can't get any better than this. So I'm tired of hearing about "Well I wanna roll on the staff cause it has healing on it." Go get your own best weapon. There are plenty of maces and other gear that we just give you. Hey hunters can heal their pets can't they. Lets let them take that great heal gear... I'm not even gonna comment on the critical strike portion of this staff as even without the crit strike it would still be a mage/warlocks loot. Thank God my guild uses officer loot and I'll never have to hear "Why can't I get that staff?" in my raids. Nuff Said.

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Dropped for Death and Taxes on Shattered Hand US server, that's our second kill.

Went to Bloodshot

Edited, Fri Sep 30 22:13:37 2005

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druid

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Can't anything just be a CASTER item to you guys JESUS.

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who ever just said this staff is good for hunters plz stab urself right now.
this is obviously a caster staff

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This is a great staff, and I understand why people of many classes want it. However, consider the following: This is +dmg and healing not just healing, there are better healing staves in AQ (namely the Qiraji Augur Staff +143 healing) or you can just get Benediction if you are a priest. Therefore, healers should not get priority on this staff. Shamans by end game will be using shields (most likely the Wormscale Blocker +35 healing) as well as a good healer mace (most likely Lok'amir il Romathis mace from Nefarian +84 healing or the Hammer of the Gathering Storm +53 healing) in those cases you heal better and have better tanking capability, though in truth you wont be tanking much (hopefully not at all). Warlocks we benefit more from a +stam staff, like the Headmaster's Charge from Scholomance, though it will probably never drop, or some other staff with high Stamina. For Druids it would be better to go for the staves I mentioned for priests who don’t go for Benediction, of course if you are really lucky you might be able to get the Staff of Rampant Growth from one of the world dragons. In any case this is truly more of a mage staff, the +crit is what mages shoot for in the end (far more so then any other class) and the high dmg would suit them. After all, mages are a direct dmg class, warlocks are a DoT class, priests are healers (if you are shadow in a raid you might as well just not come), most druids I know use maces in the end rather then staves unless they can get a great epic healer staff, and for shamans, well you aren’t a ranged dps class (yes you can do it, but it isn’t your job) go for a good shield and mace over this, you’ll like it better.

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ok you pack of idiots here are BETTER staffs then this one FOR MAGES/LOCKS....

Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Staff
132 - 227 Damage Speed 3.00
(59.8 damage per second)
+33 Intellect
+32 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 76.
Equip: Improves your chance to hit with spells by 2%.
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 1%.
"The weapon is infused and reinforced with Elementium."
Gesegneter Akolythenstab der Qiraji of Dominance
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
126 - 205 Damage Speed 2.90
(57.1 damage per second)
+37 Intellect
+16 Stamina
+14 Spirit
Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 1%.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 40.
Stab der Dominanz Wing Focus Staff
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
142 - 237 Damage Speed 3.20
(59.2 damage per second)
+40 Intellect
+22 Stamina
+17 Spirit
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 56.
Fokussierstab der Schattenschwingen one more person comes on here and says this staff is the only mage/lock item i willl Hunt you down....like there are more then 1 item in this god damn game you pack of crying little kids. now im pist becouse you ppl will not lissing will not bother to look or *THINK*. You all are failing to see that some items are good for all caster class's, and when i say caster class's i mean mage,priest,warlock,drud,shaman. non of them class's have or should have more right then others over a item that WILL help them just as much as anyone there.

Here is another kick ass staff better for you damage types then the staff of the shadow flame..

Staff of the Qiraji Prophets
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
129 - 214 Damage Speed 2.90
(59.1 damage per second)
+26 Intellect
+21 Stamina
+8 Spirit
+10 Fire Resistance
+10 Nature Resistance
+10 Frost Resistance
+10 Shadow Resistance
+10 Arcane Resistance
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 56.
Equip: Gives a chance when your harmful spells land to reduce the magical resistances of your spell targets by 50 for 8 seconds.

Stab der Qirajipropheten as a damage class this right here---- Equip: Gives a chance when your harmful spells land to reduce the magical resistances of your spell targets by 50 for 8 seconds, is about best as it gets for mages and locks.

Yes i know there are alot of healing staffs i could link too,but what ppl want is up to them. staff of the shadow flame just happpens to be in the right place for both types- damage or healing. the stats and abills on it make it usefull to everyone and at least i know this lol along with blizzard.

Also i never at any point said every guild give this staff to your healers. i never said that, what i think is the same thing blizzard would think=this is a staff for any caster class ANY. how you ppl do it i dont care, but to say a healer cant use this and would suck you are an idiot to the end.

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OBVIOUSLY MC drops such as the Mageblade and certain offhands/rings can go to any caster class...the last two MC runs we went on two paladins got the mageblade. I never objected to that, after all, paladins do melee damage, and they do cast healing spells. Rings and offhands are OBVIOUSLY any caster class, because they benefit all caster classes.

"ZOMG WATE APRUDO YOU'RE MAKING YOURSELF OUT TO BE AN IDIOT BECUZ U R CONTRADICTING URSELF ROFLMFAO!11!"

Shut the hell up. A STAFF MAGE OR LOCK has NO (0) BETTER WEAPON IN THIS GAME. Whoever linked all those staves up there, if you look at the staves, the only one COMPARABLE to this staff is the Acolyte staff. Now, if you wanna farm the drops out of AQ and go ahead and get that staff, be my guest. But if another priest says this is a Priest staff, I will "hunt you". BENEDICTION BENEDICTION BENEDICTION. Why are priests doing DPS anyway? You chose the path of a HEALER. Heal, get your +Healing gear, heal better, and shut the hell up. If you wanna be a DPS priest, and you've downed Nefarian, you guys must carry about 12 priests around just to handle it all. If you wanted to DPS, why did you roll a priest? They can't DPS for beans compared to Mages or Locks. A DPS priest is simply another aggro grabber and has no space in any kind of endgame. It's like a waste of a 60. I tell my guildie priests all the time I have the utmost respect for them getting their toons to 60 and dealing with all the #$%^ priests have to deal with, because I have a priest; and it was a $%^&* to get him anywhere. Now, that being said, when they made that priest, they KNEW they were making a HEALER class. If you just look at the class description, it's full of things about HEALING. There are at least three (3) better healing staves in this game, so go get those and leave us DPS casters alone.

Now, to the Locks, the rift is marginal. Honestly, if a Lock rolled his DKP on this with a mage, they wouldn't get told no if they won it. That's not the message I was trying to send. I know FULL well of Lock capabilities, trust me. The reason behind what I said is although Locks have a few spells comparable to mages, mages do have three bolt spells, two nukes, two high damage AoEs, and one medium damage nuke AoE. Granted, the last one has little if any impact on raids whatsoever, but overall, a mage's spellbook in regards to instant DPS just barely outspans the Lock, and that's why this staff just barely suits a mage first. Not necessarily any better FOR the mage, but he gets marginal priority. I meant no disrespect to locks reading up on the staff, they do deserve just as much as every mage...I did, however, mean to hammer into people who think this is a priest staff. That is absolutely mind boggling.

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o_O nerf double posts

Edited, Oct 10th 2006 at 6:25pm PDT by ThunderStryk

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Got this on my mage a few weeks, ago

Pretty lucky to get it, the guy with the most DKP lagged out during the fight and never returned :P

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IMO, best staff in the game, with a +int enchant. Let the anti-intellect flames begin.

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As a druid aiming to play in the expansion I can't say more then that I understand the locks and mages desire to have this staff ... before other classes that can heal. But in expansion I'd like to be able surviving on my own so this staff would be very welcome.

I mean if it was only a staff for healers it would have said + healing spells, and now as they mention in previous posts; there are no staffs saying only dmg well that isn't an excuse for letting out the druids now is it?

I see your pain though, I do

Edited, Mon Jan 9 07:39:02 2006

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It's a caster staff. Why can't druids have it? Because it has +damage on it? For a restoration/balance druid this is an awesome staff. If a mage/warlock wants it that's cool. I'm just saying that it's not class specific and can go to any caster class.

So please stop saying this is a "druid staff" or this is a "mage/warlock staff." I see it as a "nice staff."

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I think this should be clear to competint WoW players: This staff, if dropped of Nefarian, should be only bidd on by Mages and Warlocks.

But as anyone would expect, if your guild is good enough to farm Nefarian (very unlikely) than anyone that is able to cast a single spell should be able to bid on this if all the mages and warlocks already have it.
I can personally garanty that you would be kicked aout of a guil the instance you press that need button if this item droppes and the mages and warlocks don't already have it.

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First Staff of shadow flame dropped on our server, we were overjoyed. It's currently still the only one on the server...it went to a druid. Mage bidded everything he had, but this retarded druid saved all his dkp for it. He got it.

Funny thing is the guild disbanded soon after. A new guild was formed and this retarded druid is not part of our crew thank god. We had a free bidding system...still do, but jesus use some #$%^ing common sense.

It was the cliche retarded oomkin druid that didn't heal and thinks he can do damage in raids...sure you can!

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if a priest would get this... I would leave the raid force

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rofl, this staff is FOR SURE mage/warlock prior, druid & priests (not very likely since most of them got Benediction) got their Staff of Rampant Growth which gives +84 healing. And it's only healing not damage, so that one is AS good as Staff of the shadow flame, END OF DISCUSSION.

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Easy answer for who should get this staff, Blizzard designed their Warlock figurine that you can buy from the Blizzard online store holding this staff. I would say it was designed for a warlock. :) (but i'm sure anyone that can have spell damage and/or healing spells would love to have this staff... it is awsome!)

Edited, Tue Apr 18 11:13:53 2006

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ok, i dont even know where to start sents helf of you too stupid to know what class's can use this staff.look at the damn stats agian pppl, that staff give +2 to crit works on magic spells and healing OK jesus now the +84 to damage AND HEALING read that last part please idiots, so there for being magic and HEALING that staff is for all caster types.also besides Looking kick ass it has 29 int ,24stam, 18spir.this staff is GOOD for mage,priest,warlock,druid, maby shaman i dont know if they can use staffs. now ppl that say this is just for 1 class you are 100% stupid and need to learn more about this game and what are good for class's.

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whoever says staff of dominance or staff of shadow wing focus is better is a noob check the dmg difference staff of the qiraji prophets is nowhere close the only ones that are comparable to SOSF is Blessed Qiraji Acolyte Staff so do some research on your staffs before you post anything about staffs..

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any pics of the staff?

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Compared to SWFS (Fokussierstab der Schattenschwingen Int
+2 Sta
+1 Spi
+28 damage
+2 Crit

All of this for 6 item levels (81 vs 75) - this staff is just too good! :D I want it! I pray to god that Claw of Chromaggus or SWFS doesn't drop for us first, because I pretty much have to take whatever drops first :)

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Anyone else sick of seeing this awesome staff...

....on Not so awesome chars? like gnomes..

I'll have this staff, And ill have a pic of it on a UNDEAD MAGE, and for once you can click the link and it actually look half decent, rather than a black toothpick on some gimpy bald gnome =p

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I wouldnt say it was more for warlocks than for mages :S

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It adds 84 to healing spells. Hunters need to heal their pets.Therefore its a hunter weapon!

STFU

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got it on my hunter today. devastating arcane shot build.

with toep and zhc my serpent sting ticks for 182.. totaly imba

Edited, Mon Apr 10 07:47:30 2006

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Blue Candy
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-hand Staff
333333333 - 333333333 Damage Speed .3
(1111111110 damage per second)
+ 333333333 Intellect
+ 333333333 Stamina
+ 333333333 Spirit
+ 333333333 Strength
+ 333333333 Agility
Durability 333333333/333333333 / 333333333/333333333
Requires Level 60
Chance On Hit: Using none of your mana: casts every damage causing spell in your spell book at your selected enemy target instantly
Use: Send a arcane explosion causing everyone in your realm to bow down towards you; because you diserve it
Equip: Increases your critcle chance to 100%
Equip: Increases your criticle strike damage bonus of spells by 333%
Equip: Causes you grow 333% of your normal size, causes you to float 13 yards above the grown and radiate with a bright blue glow
" Property of Blue Candy, the best mage that ever was... "

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i agree 100% man, ppl should be able to think what they want. thats what i am doing (I) think its a good caster staff for all caster class's reason i have to keep saying this is becouse i get some idiot saying i think this is druid or priest item when i NEVER said that. i dont know how many times i said i think this should be a staff for all caster class's.i also know that blizz would tell everyone of you the same thing. and if they dont LINK the screen shot or post.it is not just the damage/healing that makes this good for all caster's. has ANYONE even looked at the other stats? +2crit WORKS on all SPELLS damage or healing.i also think its rude for ppl to say that if your not a mage or lock and roll on this you suck and should be kicked from guild that is 100%BS.

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This debate is rediculous. To even suggest that this staff should be rolled on by all casters is outrageous. What needs to be said to priests and druids has already been said by everyone who had the sense to link some much better +healing staves. This staff is the absolute pinnacle for a staff mage or lock. There are no better staves in the entire game (save for the legendary staff, but no one has a clue what the stats are on that). I'm a mage, and I have the staff. My guild gives this staff priority to the mages first, and then the locks. No one else. All three times the staff has dropped for us it has gone to mages, with healers not even mentioning a roll. It's just plain understood that the healing on this staff is subpar to AQ staves and the like. If a healer in my guild even tried to roll on this, they'd probably get a -25 DKP just for being a complete idiot.

If you're wondering why mages have the edge over locks, it's simply because instant, direct DPS has a slight edge over DOTs. Really, if you think about it, locks have 3 crucial roles: Garr, Drakonid zerg before Nefarian, and Onyxia phase 2. Any other fight you could put a mage in every locks place and do just as good, if not better. If you switch it around, however, and put a lock in every mage's place, the fight would go MUCH slower, and a lot of healing mana would be totally gone.

Really people, Healer gear? Jesus.

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Forget all of them...just give it to the DPS warrior to lvl his staves up and end this long ass post lol. I'm a priest from a guild that raids Nax and a priest has NEVER even been allowed to bid on this and we dont complain because we know our role in a raid. I PvP up to rank 9 and they let me go shadow recently due to having 6 priests, druids, and pallys in raid...so i get to dps and throw shadow weaving up for the locks :) I dont even want this....Priest can use maces! go after Lok'amir il Romathis Lok'amir il Romathis Mages/Locks cant even use this so its just you against pallys/druids. Let this tired post go. Shadow Flame is lock/mage priority end of it. Priest can do dps this it true but we are available to more (maces)just like they can use swords and we can't. From reading the previous posts it is very clear who raids end game and who doesnt. No priest from an end game guild in their right mind would @#$%^ about not being able to bid on this item.

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Rather funny to read all this bull$%^& about druids should get to bid on this staff.

There is no chance what so ever a druid would get this over a dmg dealing caster in my guild aka mage/warlock.

why? critts as healer = overaggro, you cant just stop healing after a critt, but a dmg dealer can.

Dmg dealers whants to increase their DPS, healers should and atleast the ones in my guild, does go for a LONGER LASTING ability, thus they go for mana restore and if they can they put in +healing to.

Druids that whants to bid on this staff is just pure epic horny tards.

go ahead and flame me for it i dont care.

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This is so stupid. To all you people arguing over who should get this staff when it drops, I would submit this: it's not up to us, the posters on this forum. It's up to your guild, when the staff drops. So if you're a druid who wants this staff, and your guild insists on only letting mages / locks roll, find another guild. If you're a mage or lock who thinks that the staff should go to those classes who will most benifit the raid by having it, then find a guild that shares your views. Arguing about it here won't change a thing.

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This is called Mage/Warlock because if your healing you'd be saving your dkp for https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=52191
or if they had a guild doing AQ40 and BWL (both) they'd save their dkp for the mats to get this https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=52896
All of the staffs/daggers/whatever give +Damage and Healing because Blizzard expected some people to be healing and doing some damage, for farming stuff outside of raids. Perfect example of this is an Elemental Mastery/Resto Sham. And beleive it or not, that's actually not all that bad ofa build because usually only Enhancement/Resto (PvP) specced Shams melee. I hope everyone reads this because this argument has been comepletely pointless and bringing up the same topics every 2 posts (i.e. Rendit). Let people think what they want. But this is THE BEST staff so far (haven't seen the Legendary caster item yet) for Mages at least. Pretty sure for Warlocks too. Druids if Resto have one of the above linked staffs to hope for along with Resto Shams and Holy Priests. Some Priests are actually Shadow (o.O) and have downed BWL. Not all Priests heal in raids cause some guilds have perfected the raid. Only Priest I can picture having this is a Shadow Priest. You also usually don't do Need and Greed in end-game cause it's all on ML. ML = Master Looter if you haven't experienced it yet. If you check my character you're probably thinking "WTF This low-level mage can't tell ME this stuff!" I have a 60 Rogue on a different server. Don't feel like logging onto him because I have no use for the server Skullcrusher anymore. To all healers who spend dkp on this, go ahead, but there's better stuff for you to get. This is a long post so I'm gonna stop, I beleive I've gone over everything I felt like saying. Also, if I screwed up spelling on some words and you want to bring it up, you care way too much.

Edit: Links were screwed up.

Edited, Wed May 24 18:52:20 2006

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I likey but would totally let mages and locks get it first, yes +84 to healing and dmg but that would benefit lock and mages alot more dps wise

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well i got this staff last night and i think its the best caster staff untill naxx...im fire mage and +crit is more important to me than +hit (also has neff trinket and zg enchants so +hit is not problem ) after using sod for 6 mounths got my staff...well im happy :P btw ye a guy above @dkp was about to get but raidleader didnt let him to swap with som1 @neff so i got the staff :D well im happy and farming mats for +30 spell dmg :D

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http://www.computergames.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=60160

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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=10212

Just though that was funny...there seems to be alot of stuff you can find copies of EQ originals.

Edited, Sat Oct 1 12:53:10 2005

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srry for dubble post

Edited, Tue Nov 15 05:09:35 2005

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This is the best staf I have ever seen. This is in my opinion a Warlock/Mage staf only. Priests/Hunters and whatever have other things they can have that not mages and warlocks can use, so first priority goes to mages and warlocks.

But then again I would like to straighten some things up.
For Mage this staff gives all from 1,8% to 2% extra crit chance. In frost you can increase the crit-extra dmg with 100%. No questions aboute it?
In fire therse a talent called Ignite that lights the taret on fire causing 40% of the spell dmg of the critical strice to fall again on the target. (so if you critt 1000 you actualy hits the target for 1400 total dmg). But ofc, the fire still only critts for up to 50% extra dmg (with ignite 90%).

Best regards
//Cybresia 60 Troll Mage (Anonymous) - Genjuros

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For those saying "its for priests and druids it has +healing!" your idiots...

Go find me an epic staff in the game that was straight +damage... cant? because there is none. They put just +healing on staffs for a reason, they're for priests, druids, shammies and possibly pally's.

Mage/Lock staff because theres nothing else we can use or even really think of. All mage/lock staves have damage/HEALING. Its clear that a number of you have never been to MC/BWL, the only way you'd get this is if all the other mages/locks had it or passed. next in line would be druid, then shammy/priest then pally.

Edited, Fri Jan 6 08:34:16 2006

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i know i am a long way from ever seeing this staff drop or anything like it, but as a resto druid i think it would be awsome. i am not gonna fight over which class has more rights to it, i think it should depend on the group and who needs it followed by who can use it. to me this or the Shadow Wing Focus Staff would be my dream staff. but hey i am just some stupid druid who does not deserve either if you read what has been posted =P. i just hope when/if my time comes to see this drop i am in a cool group and i end up being the one to get it. oh well if someone else can actually use it more than me great it goes to them.

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This may be good for a moonkin or a shadowpriest, but honestly, it's a travesty for one to have this.

If you are killing nef, do the mages/locks in your guild a favor and get a lok'amir because if you are a priest/shaman/druid and you take this you are wasting your DKP, a mage/lock's day, and a perfectly good Nef drop which will only be sharded for a lok'amir

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Would this be a good druid staff?

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how do i say this... warlock and mage staff! (priest have anathema benediction and druids should wear a 2 hand mace...)

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can't decide whether to go for this staff of the quested one that requires an insane amount of luck to obtain. Both have great stats, but this one seems to have 1% more chance to crit an added 8 to spell damage and it has spirit. However the other staff has a little more int and stam plus a 2% chance to hit with spells. Leaning towards Shadow Flame, but I don't know.

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While you possibly could get more +damage than this, you wouldn't get any crit chance. For any caster, +2% crit chance is effectively +1% total damage, and for some talent builds it's +2% (Frost mages' frost bolts, for instance).

So it would be superior, of course, critting in high-end raid instances isn't always a good thing, there's the issue of aggro to consider.

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Warlock staff.

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elemental shammy weap, ty.
Pro for elem shammy :
1. high dps, elem shammy can still use it with WF
2. Spell dps
3. +Heal
Contra for mare/lock:
1. The high dps are useless for mage/lock
2. Healing is nearly useless for mage/lock

Edited, Sun Feb 5 14:26:48 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Druids enough with this dam staff. 80-90% of the guilds will let a mage/lock go first before you, sooo why not try for :

Lok'amir il Romathis Paladins/Shamans will bid against ya but thats about it.. AND you can offhand something else. I dunno but I think it would much better.

Seriously though... take your head outta your a$$

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Here are some items to look at
some give damage only some give healing only

healing=healers only damaging= damage only

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemadvsearch.html?itemname=&itemclass=2%3A10&slot=0&binds=-1&stat1=0&statval1=&stat2=0&statval2=&stat3=0&statval3=&sort1=0&sortwt1=0&sort2=0&sortwt2=0&sort3=0&sortwt3=0&minlevel=&maxlevel=&mindps=&maxdps=&quality=3&speed=0&effect=0&showall=0&dep=n&locale=enUS&search=1

some will say Damage and healing= all caster classes that pretty much have damage or healing spells

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemadvsearch.html?itemname=&itemclass=2%3A10&slot=0&binds=-1&stat1=0&statval1=&stat2=0&statval2=&stat3=0&statval3=&sort1=0&sortwt1=0&sort2=0&sortwt2=0&sort3=0&sortwt3=0&minlevel=&maxlevel=&mindps=&maxdps=&quality=4&speed=0&effect=0&showall=0&dep=n&locale=enUS&search=1

Edit: By the way i am a priest i would not use this staff. i like Benediction but if somone asked me if i wanted it sure, it looks cool nice stats and still adds healing so wouldnt make me useless but i would use it if say somone was going to DE it or not use it or i was asked.

Edited, Thu Jun 8 17:29:54 2006

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is this staff better as Shadow Wing Focus Staff?

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PTR spellcasters get this one

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IQ isn't rated by %, retard.

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now this is the last time im saying i think this staff is good for mages,warlocks,druids,shamans,priests. Now if you have a problem with the stats GO talk to blizz about it, go tell them to make it CLASS so it says on the item mage/lock only intill you get them to do that they will tell you pretty much what i have bin saying. this staff is GOOD for ALL caster CLASS's.NOW i KNOW that blizz will say the same thing i have bin and all it will take is you asking them. becouse i cant deal with this stupidness of ppl here any longer

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Your a noob. Stop posting here, it's obvious no one really gives a sh*t about your opinion or anything you say for that matter.

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Alla is lagging horribly today - sorry for the double post.

Edited, Sat Oct 1 04:47:26 2005

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warlock staff.

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this is the sweetest staff ever, i would rather have this one, then grnd marshal staff, really!

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Honestly yea it benefits both types
but if i saw anything but a lock/mage get this id puke

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after 4-5 months of farming Nef, it finally dropped for the first time and i got it ^^

Edited, Sat Apr 22 17:59:05 2006

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Rendit... if your guild let healers get this the officers are really stupid :DD

theres better staffs for healers than this so................

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If Rendit's guild WOULD let druids have this, I doubt they even run BWL.

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I am a simple soul who knows little about these flaming hot debates. What I know is this:

When I saw this staff?

I nearly wet myself.

That is all.

Kommentar von qpon

Who at wowhead thought it would be funny to list this as BiS for resto druids?

Lok'amir il Romathis is better for Priests, Paladins, Druids and Shamans as that plus Lei of Lifegiver = whopping 137 healing... and Mages/Warlocks cant use it..

Even Benediction is better for priests.

Stop being greedy, healers. This is very clearly a Mage/Warlock weapon.

Kommentar von SeekerWi

Differently from Classic, this should be mage BiS pre-naxx in season of mastery. Mana and crit chance are more relevant than ever before in absence of worldbuffs, and large amount of intellect and spirit push this stick ahead of r14 or aq40 weapons. Your guild would do well to prioritize mages over locks, who won't hesitate to use AQ40 weapons instead.

(and give locks one tear for every staff that's given to mages, or something to keep it fair).

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