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Kommentar von munix

Love this shield. If I had the chance I would have both this and Malistar's Defender, but my guild doesn't run MC anymore. Wish Malistar's had a cooler graphic too. :(

Kommentar von 7266

I would prefer this over Malistar's Defender simply because of the healing it has. Also it looks cool, looks more like a Zul'Gurub shield than Blackwing Lair but meh.

Kommentar von moonrae

This shield was an iconic status symbol for pallys and shamans in early Pre-TBC.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Why are Paladins and Shamans arguing whether it should belong exclusively to one or the other? As far as I'm aware, it's not as if the game only doles out a fixed number of epics, so having this shield drop for a Shaman would not lessen the chance of it dropping for a Paladin who wants to bid on it.

And last I checked, this pesky game mechanic called "Faction" prevented Paladins and Shamans from grouping together in the first place, so it's not as if either class will be in the same raid group competing for the item. ;)

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/r0kas/dragonscale.jpg

looks > stats

Kommentar von Thottbot

Honestly guys, grow up. All of you who would ever even get near the boss that drops this shield already know, that this shield is Paladin( alliance) Shaman( Horde) priority, for the rest of you, there are obviously far better things that suite your class. My guild would never let a warrior roll on this, and the warriors in my guild wouldn't even want this shield. By this time anyhow in the game, our warriors have better equipment than this shield. As for me i am a paladin, and i have a malistar's defender, which has more armor than this, and mana regen, which i find to be much more useful. ONly reason anyone wants this shield is if its an upgrade for a paladin and shammy only, or if a paladin or shaman wants to waste thier precious dkp for a shield that just looks like a dragon ZOMG......... And for the record, i dont even want your stupid Valor. Go suck on your thumb you crybabies......( see cusswords, are what the desperate for attention use, i on the other hand, grew up!) Good luck to any paladin who Beats the boss for this shield. And shamans too

Kommentar von Thottbot

Armor- who cares

Block- it helps every now and then

Stamina- 6 (meh)

Intellect- 17 (sweet)

Spirit- 6... helps but not during a fight so... meh

INCREASES HEALING!
that right above proves that this is a Pally/ Shaman shield... stop arguing it is simple.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Chromaggus drops a warrior shield anyway. Once you've passed Razorgore and Vael it's smooth sailing right to Nefarian.

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4717/wowscrnshot1204052041304ko.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

The are 2 pictures with tauren shammies. The first one(on top of the page) shows a sham with black dragonscale shoulders. The second one(just above the guide for vael) shows a sham with earthfury(epic tier1) shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

For now, this shield is the best shield a Paladin/Shaman can get hold of. It is a very rare drop, and several guilds that has done Blackwing Lair for months and months hasnt gotten it, while a guild like mine, got 2 in a row :)

This is the shield you should aim for if your guild has a future, it doesnt only have awesome stats, it also look amazing.

Heres a link for the shield on a Paladin:

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/2219/reddragonscaleprotectorbest0nh.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

In certain fights I would prefer a Malistars defender above this one just because of the manaregen. But it only dropped twice, got this shield yesterday (also second drop) and enchanted it with 9 spirit, still using my aurastone hammer.

In longer fights I still use the dredger with 22intellect on it. The aurastone hammer + red dragonscale protector would have 2 intel more if I had enchanted the hammer. But the manaregen is 5 intead of 9.

With the aurastone hammer and malistar it would be 14mana per 5 secs which I prefer above alot of intellect, I have 8200mana raidbuffed and cast around 80 flashheals till I run out, with full lawbringer and the dredger that is.

I will be aiming for lok'amir ofcourse in the long end wcich boosts healing abilities enormously. Still carrying around my herald of Woe I am not considering to go more into protection/1h specced. As I know am Holy/Retribution specced 30/0/21 and confident with the fact that I would go 1H and shield in raids more often and take out the dredger in PvP or the Herald depending on what I want to do.

I still consider the malistar as one of the better shields as this one for long fights, but that's a personal preference. My full lawbringer is already half replaced by judgement bindings, boots, legs and gloves, which has more +healing so with this shield it's imba.

Kommentar von Thottbot

pic:

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3898/reddragonscaleprotector7ct.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

That is not QS, it is the Bloodcaller, dropped off hakkar. Not to mention the SS was taken in ZG. Noob.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Like some other poster said... why are we fighting over whether this is a shaman or paladin shield? Last i checked, this thing called "faction" kept paladins and shamans from being in the same raid... if any of you paladins ever think you have to outroll a shaman on this shield, or vice versa, plz plz plz delete your character, and start over before you wipe your raid. Power lvling and buying 60 characters off e-bay are not cool.

Second of all... to all you "This is a shammie/pally shield if i ever saw one, you might as well be saying "the sky is blue" or "I breathe air". There are 3 classes that use shields. Shaman. Paladin. WARRIOR. HOWEVER, what warrior WANTS this shield? it has flipping INTEL on it. You know, that one stat that improves your mana? Unfortunately, warriors have a red bar called "rage" instead of a blue bar called "mana". Then this shield has +healing on it. Last i checked the only ways warriors healed were band-aids and warlord cards. No guild has ever even let a warrior blow their DKP on this shield. Why? Cuz any guild that would obviously hasn't downed Vaelastrasz yet.

Kommentar von Thottbot

the base shield
Aegis of the Blood God
is for warriors, leave malistars/dragonscale to the paladins (who can't roll on warrior loot in raids anyway)
the upgrade is
Blessed Qiraji Bulwark

aside from that... faction specific classes should love to have this shield, because it increases spell crit (because of a lot of int) makes your heals beefier, and has a great amount of armor
granted if you are mana/5 geared, malistars would probably be better... but if you are spell crit geared (for infinite heals, as a paladin) then the protector is better.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ahm.. til the Addon gets out..

No SHAMMY CAN roll vs a PALLY for this shield, cause they are HORDE and ALLIANCE, and nerver in the same Raid.

btw.. Coolest looking Shield in the Game!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I�d take the Dragonscale protector any day, +heal comes before mana regen. I�m totally gonna get this shield, got the dkp for it so just awaiting the drop.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If this drops for alliance, only pallies roll. drops for horde, only shamman roll. PERIOD

This is one of the very few sheilds that actually gives +intel. If your a warrior and roll on this, ill stab you....

And yes as of the expansion both pallies and shaman can roll at the same time, but until the expansion dont post about it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I need it. NOW!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

OMG.... I need this shield!
It'll look grate at my Tauren Shaman
But Problem there are other Shaman in the raid who want this ;(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

in the two first kill of Vael in my guild, Virtus on Khaz Modan,that doesn't exist anymore :'(, I wasn't there, but had priority for this shield :-/ nothing drops
The third kill, I was there, first one shot, first down for me (and last), the shield drops ! OMFG xD

I'm soooo happy, pretty shield ever =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My guild has killed this guy 15 times now and the droprate given here on this page should be changed. This shield NEVER drops. I´ve spoken to pala´s having waited a year for it:S That´s not fair:S

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Warriors piss off lol dude... wars are gonna start
using intellect and do some healing good luck...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

stupid link isn't working.

Edited, Thu Jul 14 01:07:36 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am a warrior and I would never spend my dkp on this ;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

mage gear -_-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Clearly a Rogue shield
so roflcopter to those who think lol rogues cant use shield, well i belive my rogue will be almighty nd can use all class spells and have 6 arms and can use plate armor.
so roflcopter to you guys

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This IMO is a Shamay/Paly shield, Warriors would be silly to waste DKP on it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I play a shaman and I am trying to figure out which one is better. This shield or Malistars off of Rag.

Edited, Sun Oct 30 12:59:14 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

There's a screenshot with a shaman holding it. It looks frickin awesome.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hunter gear!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Black Dragonscale Shoulders

Kommentar von Allakhazam

worst idea ever. so !@#$ing pointless and if you go by DKPs you have no life. seriously think about it. im not trying to be some allmighty *!@#. DKPs = no life. what do you do to earn the DKPs?

exacally. stupid BS stuff.

GOD LOOT FTW

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you compare the stats between Malister's Defender and the Red Dragonscale Protector it comes down to this basically...

Red Dragonscale Protector:
+5 int
+6 spirit
+37 healing

Malister's Defender:
+35 armor
+1 block
+3 sta
+9 mana regen

In terms of mana regen the MD owns the RDP hands down. Even if the RDP had 9 spirit it would still not be as good as the 9 mana regen on MD. 1 spirit does not equal 1 mana/health regen. It's something more like 2 or 3 spirit = 1 mana/hp regen. Basically the RDP has 2 or 3 mana regen. Furthermore items with mana regen are always in effect where as spirit does not start regenerating hp and mana till you have not attacked or cast a spell for 5 seconds. Someone mentioned Blessing of Kings for paladins would make the spirit better than the 9 mana regen, but that isn't true. In fact the 10% spirit boost from BoK would only increase the spirit by 0.6, which is about an extra +0.25 mana/hp per tick. That is hardly noticeable. Pair the MD with an Auastone Hammer and you have quite the little combo for endurance boss battles (14 mana per 5 seconds).

This of course, is not taking into account any of the other stats. RDP does have the nice +37 healing (wish it was healing AND damage.. but all well), and the 5 more int. While 3 sta and the tiny more armor/block on the Malister's is nice, it's really not as important to shamans or paladins as the int and healing are. The RDP also looks 10 times better then MD, so it has that going for it too.

In the end it depends what you are looking for. Do you want a shield that is a little more defense oriented with the sta, armor and block, as well as has the mana regen? Or do you want a shield that helps boots your mana pool with the +int and +healing? Personally I am not sure. I would probably take the Red Dragonscale Protector over the Malister's Defender because I am big on looks, but the stats are really hard to compare. Seeing as we are on a fairly new server and have had Vael on farm status awhile now I will probably take whichever drops first...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What kind of shoulders are those in the picture?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

YaY, got this baby today, and DAMN I look so smooth, to bad I have to put my Malistars Defender in bank :)

Tuff to be a shaman these days, almost have more epix in bank than im wearing. Feel like a real woman with to many shoes !

Edited, Sat Sep 10 03:21:10 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My brother's guild has been in BWL for a couple of months, about a dozen kills, almost always that shield and never the helm. Feel sorry for the warrs, but damn their shammies are lucky >.<

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I (Shaman) got this baby a couple of days ago and I love everything about it.
Got both this and the Malistar's Defender and I can't really say which of them are the better one but the looks on this sure beats the ugly placeholder on Malistar at the moment.
This shield is awesome allround alltho I usually switch to my Malistar's Defender during long bossfights like those in BWL for the manaregen.
A screenie of me wearing it:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6123/rdp1rs.png

Mardroem 60 Shaman <Mirage> Bladefist EU

Edited, Fri Feb 3 07:34:54 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

omgwtfbbq! ugly! like... eww.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

6 spirit and +37 healing > 9 mana per 5 sec.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

after one year of killing vael, it dropped once for us.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Looks like they had the design on paper, let a 6-year old cut out the edges, and then just shoved it into the game. Whatever, my Malister's Defender (also fugly) is a far better shaman shield then this. Paladins, knock yourselves out on this "beauty".

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Malistars FTW ... this thing is was 1/2 assed, throw 4-5 Mana / 5sec and i'd spend some DKP on it... MAYBE, as for now, Malistars + Mageblade is still the best paly combo

as for paly's tankin ... haha, only time that happens is on Domo, Garr, and Sulphuron if ur hurting ... use our shields to give us sick AC and make us sickly uber healers for short periods of time

9300 AC, 5000 HP, 7000 mana buffed and 70% chance to resist heal interruption ... Paly + Arms/Fury warrior = unstoppable 2v2

Edited, Mon Sep 19 16:59:42 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

NeonWombat ---> No %^&* ?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It was either Malistar's or this one. The Mana Regen would be better for a Sherman like myself, but I got this one if even for the looks alone.

I love my shield!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Coming up on 1 year of BWL, most of that time on farm and it hasn't dropped once for my guild. Our paladins have given up on this.

But hey, almost every one of them has their retnoob helm from him!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am a warrior and I would never spend my dkp on this ;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/bigyianz/stats.jpg

and

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/bigyianz/dragonscale.jpg

i got it the 2nd night it came out....awsome shield...greater block....its amazing...:)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Pic

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What enchant would be the best for this shield?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Definitely Pally/Shaman

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My friend Karby says your guild name in the picture is gay (ropetown)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ohmygawd thts sexy!

I still like the new Drillborer disc though...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

3 words.. Warriors piss off :P

shamans and/or possibly more paladins..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

me want

Kommentar von Allakhazam

a protection specced paladin

then again, those are perhaps the most unreliable tank around - not because we paladin sucked, but blizzard's 'ideal' to make us jack-of-all-trades but does NOTHING right.

if u do happen to have a paladin tanking - pray to the light that he dont lose the aggro, or its a guaranteed wipe

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i am a warri and a warri who spend dkp points on this is a dumb ass ^^

it is a shaman/paladin shield

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is and will always be the best paladin shield in game until the tier 3 dungeon opens.
enchant it whit +9 spirit and you have your mana regen.

as to the shamans the Malistars is best since they dont have mana regens like the buff paladins have.

Edited, Thu May 18 09:42:24 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In about 30 Vael kills we have yet to see the first of these :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Red Dragonscale Protector + Jin'do's Hexxer =
Stats:
+48 interllect (+22 interllect enchant on mace)
+19 stamina (+7 stamina enchant on shild)
+6 Spirit

Passive: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 88
Passive: Passive: Improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 1%.

That is my goal oO

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Finally dropped for us after 14 kills:

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/scorpion609-Scarlett.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Recieved this last night on our 4th Vael kill. Still can't believe it. As a resto shaman (by choice) this is about the most amazing shield I have seen. I fell in love with it for the looks and stayed for the stats.

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 1:27pm PST by Brazbit

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+6 Ausdauer
+17 Intelligenz
+6 Willenskraft
Haltbarkeit 120 / 120

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