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Kommentar von 4124

A really good dagger to get and its easy to get too. Easy epic dagger to get by getting exalted with AV.

Kommentar von OtherGuy

Also, you get this by buying it from the seller at the Alterac Valley Entrance. Costs around 126g I believe.

Kommentar von 3159

Not worth getting if your guild planning to head to molten core/aq20/zg soon, atleast not on Skullcrusher EU where horde never wins AV, maybe one in twenty runs is a win.

Kommentar von 2340

FYI the proc IS mitigated by armor. It can also crit; I have seen it crit a mage for 500 before.

Kommentar von schizophrenia

Post 2.0.1 Patch the Lobo costs:

7000 Honor
25 AV Tokens

Kommentar von 7765

Get this at off-hand with a Alcor's Sunrazor in main and you will get a pretty fast and lethal combination . Just because of the speed of the main dagger you will score more wounds in a single duel.

Kommentar von 7798

Very nice dagger for rogues that haven't reached MC yet. Fairly easy to get since patch 2.0.1, it only costs 7000 honor points and 25 AV tokens.

Kommentar von Sebas

Before patch 2.0.1 this was a great dagger because it was very easy to get and not quite too expensive...sadly I reccomend that any rogues that do not have it to NOT get it now. If you're going to save up honor to get items (grand marshal's dirk for example) buying this (temporary) item would only make it take longer to get them.

It's just like anything you buy in real life...if you buy the lower priced one now, you get a decent product for a low price, but the wait for the far-surperior and more expensive item increases even more.

Kommentar von 8421

Yes the dirk or blade may be better, but its still a good offhander. The time to get a 2nd Grand Mashall/High Warlord weap isn't worth it. Especially if you plan on getting the armor and mount.

Kommentar von 46500

TBC ownes AV epic...

The Lobotomizer < Wolfrider's dagger (Horde reward)

Wolfrider's dagger: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25495

Got higher max dmg, and better stats. You can get it really fast, starts with the quest: The Assassin

Kommentar von 51298

this is nice

Kommentar von Queggy

Chance on hit: Wounds the target for 200 to 300 damage and lowers Intellect of target by 25 for 30 sec.

A lobotomy (Greek: lobos: Lobe of brain, tomos: "cut/slice") is a form of psychosurgery, also known as a leukotomy or leucotomy (from Greek leukos: clear or white, and tomos meaning "cut/slice"). It consists of cutting the connections to and from, or simply destroying, the prefrontal cortex. These procedures often result in personality changes and possible mental retardation. Lobotomies were used in the past to treat a wide range of severe mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, clinical depression, and various anxiety disorders. After the introduction of the antipsychotic thorazine, lobotomies fell out of common use. So it makes sense that if it chances on hit to lower your intellect. It's sort of a joke on Blizzards part.

Kommentar von Thottbot

reward of Alterac Battleground..

Kommentar von Thottbot

I upgraded to this from the ol' Barman. From what I've seen, this dagger has higher high-end ambush damage, but lower low-end damage. Have it with +5dmg, highest ambush I've had was a 1864. With Barman I think my highest was 1700ish. (This is all on casters of course.)

I have 296 agility (and the attack power from the devilsaur set/don julio's ring) if that helps you compare my dmg to what yours may be.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ran through a thousand or so attacks just now, got precisely 15 procs. The rate was fairly consistent over that time, between 1-2%. The 200-300 damage bit seems a bit off, but I'm not really feeling up to doing a million attacks to get 1500 procs to test against.

Stats:
Attacks: 1107

Hits: 1000 (90.33%)
909 were hits, 91 were crits. (9.1% crit rate)

Procs:15 (1.5% proc rate)
13 were hits, 2 were crits. (13.3% crit rate)
Hit total/min/max dmg: 1870/113/202
Crit total/min/max dmg: 747/338/409

That's an average of 175 damage per proc, a far cry from the "200-300" wound. One nice thing is that the proc interrupts spellcasting.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The 200 - 300 Damage IS instant, the lowered 25 intellect is over time

Kommentar von Thottbot

for all the stupid arguments above. This is NOT a DOT proc, and by that I mean there is no "DAMAGE" over time. This is INSTANT damage, with a proc of lowering intellect for 30 sec. Lowering intellect is not damage.

Hence, you want to use this and blind? Sure go ahead. Want to gouge? No problem. B/c it doesn't have a DOT! Learn how to read, noobs. The weapon is designed for rogues to use against mana users. Which is exactly what you should be doing anyway in PvP if your a rogue. Learn it, use it, and love it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ambush is weak becasue you havent upgraded the 20% more damage with Ambush backstab in Subleties (talents) If your a dagger rogue, go and put them all in Subleties.

Kommentar von Thottbot

## Players in Alterac Valley will no longer drop Darkspear Troll Mojo, Dwarf Spines, Forsaken Hearts, Human Bone Chips, Orc Teeth, etc. and the quests have been removed for these items. Instead when a player is slain in Alterac Valley, any enemies that were in that player's threat list will gain 1 point of reputation with either the Frostwolf or Stormpike factions.
## Frostwolf and Stormpike faction will now be gained by killing players of the opposite faction. Reputation will no longer be split up among the entire raid group.

Kommentar von Thottbot

RE: Fury.

There are a few schools of thought when it comes to fury.

Fast/Fast
Slow/Fast
Slow/Slow

Fast/Fast is good for rage gen but lacks in burst damage for pvp.

Slow/Slow is eh.

Slow/Fast is good for rage gen and burst damage, I'm a fan of Slow/Fast but I'd do Fast/Fast if I had two fast epic weapons.

Quel'Serrar is "decent" for fury, but its not really good. :\ Personally I'd say keep your quel for tanking and find something better. (its not hard.)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyways, this dagger is an exalted AV reward (doesn't take too long to get).
It's the best non-raiding dagger there is, but pretty bad compared to MC/BWL and other raid daggers.
About the proc, it procs about twice a day, but its really awesome.
Because the proc is melee damage, it can crit, so I've had mine hit for 600 damage (normally about 300).
I did a 1500 Ambush, plus the 600 proc, that's 2100 instant damage, after that I backstabbed her (a mage) which critted for 1000 and she was dead.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The weapon procs more often after the 1.11 patch. Before the patch, it procced about once a day and now almost in every fight.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is it true that I can save 13g by buying this inside AV as opposed to outside? Or is that an error?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is a great dagger, as someone already put it, if you don't have access to/the DKP to spend on comparable daggers from end game instances. The daggers on par with this are Gutgore Ripper, which is a 10%+ drop rate off Garr, 5th boss in MC, the next step up, Fang of the Faceless at a very low drop rate off of Hakkar, who is the final boss in ZG, or the Qiraji Sacrificial Dagger which is a <10% drop off of Kurinaxx, the first boss in AQ20. If you don't have the means to get any of these (all of which will likely be highly in demand if your guild is just starting to down Hakkar, Kurn, or Garr), then Lobo is by all means a viable alternative.

While it is one of the lesser epics, I have been using it with great succes as my steady MH dagger for the 3 months or more that I have been level 60, and I don't look to replace it until I get Perdition's Blade off Rag. Great for PVP/PVE, VERY easy to get, if you are at all inclined, I would highly suggest grinding the rep to get this, because you also get the ring, the cheap mount (both of which I am still using), and get to have some fun (sometimes >.<) while doing so!

The great thing about Lobo, which may push it over the top in terms of value, is its availability. You are guaranteed this weapon when you hit exalted (not "exhaulted", "exaulted", or "exhalted" fyi), and if you have the time and the patience, you can grind that out in a week! Simply put, you have to get a competent, well geared, organized raid together to down any of the bosses with comparable daggers, and then outroll/outDKP your competition. All you have to do to get Lobotomizer is pick up turn ins in AV until you get exalted, then pay the 100g (less if you have PVP ranks, which you invariably will if you grind out exalted).

Summing up, great MH dagger for new 60's who may or may not be very far into end game content.

PS: While the proc is nothing special in terms of additional damage in the long run, when it crits on an ambush, clothies who have neglected stamina are drinking one second and dead the next.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6746/triplecritoz0.gif

Hope this helps the undecided! :)

Roobarb
60 Rogue
Uther

Kommentar von Thottbot

Under the new honor system, the exalted requirement for this piece has been lifted. At friendly, you can get this dagger for 7000 honor and 25 AV tokens from the vendor at the physical enterance to the bg instance.

Kommentar von Thottbot

WOOT!
I just got this dagger from a couple of hours doing AV. It is very easy with the new honor points. If u win about 10 maybe a couple more Alterac Valleys you can get this dagger for FREE! Trust me if you dont have good daggers and have some spare time GET THIS DAGGER!

Kommentar von Thottbot

GM dirk+ lobotomizer=1 shot anybody. yesterday i shs ambush a 57 lock with some mage or priest shield on.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This sucker is a good "Mongoose" candidate, to sit in your off hand with Glacial blade packing "Battlemaster" in your main hand.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have it mh on my lvl 64 subt spec rogue with +15 agil. Reason = nothing really better in the low 60's. OH is unqueched thirst with +15 agil...i had lvl 67-68 cloth wearers running from me in bg's. I would recommend due to the low honor points and marks it takes to get it. I have seen crits as high as the mid 2k range from ambush.

Kommentar von Thottbot

can you dual wield these?

Kommentar von Thottbot

the high warlords razor is the best dagger for lvl 60-67 and with lobotomizer in offhand, you can take down anyone lvl 60-69

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was just wondering for those of you who have gotten this already, what is the fastest way to build up reputation in AV BG? which specific quests?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

if u kill the oppostie side eg alliance killing horde :P INSIDE av bg will this also raise rep?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've just recently got the lobotomizer and i have noticed that it does proc. When it procs, it does a direct damage, not a bleed, and the effect is called "Brain Hacker". here are some pics

http://stevehogan.0catch.com/lobot1.jpg

http://stevehogan.0catch.com/lobot2.jpg

http://stevehogan.0catch.com/lobot3.jpg

Edited, Sat Jul 16 13:54:41 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

had the idea of putting a 22int enchant on this for a shaman. what do u guys think? with a shaman shield u can still get around 35intellect total and even if u bought the shield from AV faction u can add 7 stam to that for 22stam 22int shaman epic peices. just an idea, probably wont do it and just pick up an unstoppable force.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

sorry, doubble post -.-

Edited, Jan 1st 2007 8:27pm by Rewilo

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have a question for all of you rogues, Would it be a good idea to use
Krol Blade - MH (of course, its only MH wpn) Krolklinge

Lobotomizer - OH Der Geistesbrecher

Krol Blade - MH Krolklinge

Assassination Blade - OH Auftragsmordklinge in mind that I am a sword spec, what would do more damage?

I do have 5points in Sword Specialization, which gives 5% chance to gain extra attack on melee, but does that 5% only apply to Main Hand? If not, it really doesn't matter to me, I can respec if I have to, maybe switch those 5 into IMP EVASION and IMP KICK, maybe WPN Expertise, I have to think about it.
My point is, which combo would do more DMG being Sword spec without having to respec into dagger spec just to utilize the lobotomizer.

I <3 my sword spec and I dont want to respec dagger.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

rouges are like PEni-s'...... used to do great things

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My tests would indicate that the proc rate is about 2%.
If thats the case it would add about (0.02 * 250 / 1.8) = 2,78 dps on avg. not much and very unpredictable

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Stupid question from a non-PVPer -- I see you need exalted to buy this item from the vendor.

So, you don't have to maintain a rank to equip the weapon, like the other PVP gear?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

edit: Since 1.6 it now does proc -- but really not to often, and I agree with the post above that its direct damage and called Brain Hacker. I've seen the brain hacker proc crit for over 500 at its highest.

Also, like other weapons it will retain its black glow through enchantments. I put crusader on it and it still glows the sweet black color.

Edited, Tue Jul 26 00:11:33 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Alterac Valley reward.You have to get your reputation to exalted/revered to be able to buy this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It sure is a beauty, I only got to test it once on a warrior because I had to leave.

Pics: http://img217.echo.cx/img217/7564/gglobotomizer8vx1ay.jpg
http://img234.echo.cx/img234/3225/mewlobotomizer3ce1ja.jpg
(By the way my offhand is julie's dagger with Demonslaying enchant)
By the way, you only get this dagger by getting exalted reputation with the Alterac Valley faction (Both horde and alliance available)

Edit-- Sorry, I'm not sure how often it procs, I'll test when I get the chance to.

Edited, Thu Jun 16 22:57:25 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got mine last night

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what would be better 4 a rogue cursader or 15 to agility

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Besides the Glacial Blade (the other AV wtfpwnd Dagger) this is the best non end game Dagger you can find

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Been mainhanding this for a while and its fine. Id love to replace it but it works

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I stopped using this weapon after going into outlands, where one of the first few quests will get you a dagger at least as good as this (Link is for Alliance side quest only sorry). Coupled together they make a very decent pair for Mutilate builds though.

However, keep in mind that the actual "lobotomizer" Proc that causes the -25 Int. debuff can crit, which is always nice if you happen to get a juicy crit at the same time.

Edited, Sep 12th 2007 6:53pm by Flubgaurd

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hi, can someone who is exalted with this faction please explain the quickest way for me to reach exalted... You would certainly be being very helpful, thnx

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If that turns out to be a bleed-type proc when it's implemented, it's going to become a fairly useless weapon, since it will break Blind and Gouge, which are more important, no matter how cool this wepaon is. ><

Kommentar von Allakhazam

it is NOT a bleed weapon, i say again it is NOT a bleed weapon, it says wounds the target for 200-300 damage, it does not say "over 30 seconds" thus it is not a bleed weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i just got exalted on euro deathwing and got this daggerit has a bloodred hilt with a nice small carved blade(kinda like widowmaker)
and it has a black beating aura around it..looks like a little cloud with a heartbeat,coolest thing ever=)
cost me 100g+some silver

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got mine 1 hour ago, damn sweet ^^

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For rogues,

Epic mount: 800-10%=640g
The Lobotomizer: 125-10%=100g
Don Julio's band: ~75-10%=~60g

Total: ~800g (+- few silver)

So saving your mount money and getting AV exalted will get you your epic mount plus two purple toys.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Rogues are meant to be outcasts thus the name =/.
And as for getting a gutgore ha i wish..
With all teh shamans i seem to notice they would say "i need upgrade" roll with there epic dice and beat my ass. and dont say then only go with guildies becuase thats an insanely niave concept.
So this thing is more obtainable becuase instead of just basically being a liability in mc your having fun killing people while getting it.
And procs mean jack ^&*! no matter what they are, max dmg+ attk power +crit rate+s all that matters.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i got mine when i was imn max exalted and it costed me 100g50s i think

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone got a pic of a gnome with it?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a very nice weapon, particularly for rogues since it produces great backstab crits. I use this with my scarlet kris both with +15 agil and I DPS like crazy.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Does this Dagger made a target Bleed?
Or is this a bug and u can Blind ur target und do gouge on it?
I want to know it because i´m going to push mit reputaiotn xD
Breaks this dagger GOUGE and Blnding?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

whats the price that they selled in AV?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

uppgraded from heartseeker to this, I must say I enjoy it. you pwn those weak fingerwigglers really fast with crit ambush and bs :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

procs are damn good for a combat rogue. esp with slice and dice and blade flurry.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

sides the cool name.. gutgore seems much much better

I mean it does give an alternative for the ppl that do not do MC and all and instead do AV.

Gutgore ripper is as far as a dagger and if it were equally obtainable (pve and pvp guild), is much much better

Gutgore decreases 25 stats (ALL STATS) while this does 25 int only

Yes look at the 200-300 proc! that might be the only thing that can outdmg it... but then again who wants to rely on a proc?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Any1 know how often it procs?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

anyone know how much this is with the exalted rep discount?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Right Now I am using Fang of the Faceless for my mainhand and a Thunderwood Poker has an offhand. Should I replace the Thunderwood Poker with the lobo? Or are the stats on the Thunderwood making it better?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How about this for a backstab:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3296/braincrit29rf.jpg

Copy+Paste URL

Edited, Sat Jul 30 06:36:50 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

imo the proc is pretty useless, the procrate for me is ~ 1/300.

I'd rather have some +2% crit like the unstoppable force.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i have PvP'ed a little for this dagger, and now when i come to thínk of it, is this dagger worth buying after getting the honor and marks? (i got the thunderwood poker) and what woud be a good enchant / spec? (more then 1 enchant / spec woud be good)

Edited, Jan 1st 2007 8:28pm by Rewilo

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The chance on hit does not work at the moment.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone know what you need for this and how long it can take?

~Nuro

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Is this dagger only decent in the hands of a rogue, because it beats the DPS of most of my 1H weapons by about 5.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

preist weapon, nuff sayededid

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In the next patch the name will be changed to "Brain Damage"

Kommentar von Allakhazam

well suxor dagger...All other epic daggers beat this...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a pretty nice dagger to get if you're not in an endgame raiding guild because of its damage range. The proc totally blows though. I forget it even has a proc until it does occur once every 200 fights.
Another bonus for its black glow but that's pretty much it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

who thinks it would be worth it to put crusader on the lobotomizer main hand and 15 agi on the electrified dagger off hand? or wait to get a better off hand to put 15 agi enchant. keep in mind 10 agi plus 15= 25 agi.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The speed of the weapon doesnt matter if you put a crusader on it. Crusader has a procs per minute way of proccing so the chance for it to proc changes depending on the speed of the weapon you put it on.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got mine for about 100g... not 125g as they say here...

my equipment: http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?2149191

Didn't got any enchants yet :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where does this beauty drop? I would do anything to get this. And the name is the best ^^

Kommentar von Alteritus

Does anyone know if this takes away a debuff on mobs with max amount of debuffs?

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