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Kommentar von 4175

The epic quest staff from completing the hunter quest
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=7636

Kommentar von 8312

You get this staff from doing the same quest as you do for Rhok'Delar Longbow of the Ancient Keepers in the quest you have to kill 4 demons and loot all there heads you can have no help and you can not use your pet. You need the Leaf from Majordomo in Molten Core to start the quest and the Mature Black Sinew to turn in with the heads to get the Staff + Bow after you finish the quest.

Kommentar von netherbane

The Lok'delar is one of the oddities in Warcraft for a hunter.

I was once, at level 34, wandering around with a staff on my back that had Attack power stats, alot of hunters laughed at th fact that I was using a staff...

Anyways, deviating from what I wanted to say...

You aquire this staff from a quest. The quest is obtained by looting the Ancient Petrified Leaf.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=18703

This leaf will be found in the chest after you have defeated Majordomo Executus in the Molten Core. This is the 2nd to last boss in Molten Core for those of you unaware.

The quest is then to go off and find out who this leaf belongs too.

Then there is 3 more quests that need to be done.

The first and probably the most difficult is the killing of four level 60 Elite demons. This will test you beyond anything you have ever done in Warcraft as a Hunter.

You can research the demons and strategies how to kill the demons elsewhere on the internet.

The second quest is killing the Brood Mistress, Onyxia. She has the potential to drop the Mature Black Dragon Sinew. This is the only item strong enough to be the draw string for your Bow, and unfortunatly you do need to have the sinew and the demons heads before you can take either the bow or the staff.

The third quest is the... most annoying, expensive or the easiest quest out of them all...
You have to get hold of a Mature Blue Sinew. This drops from Azuregos, I believe 100% of the time now, so if you are in a guild who can get to the out door raid bosses, then this is easy as hell.

This is a BoE item, so you may also find one in the Auction house, on my server they can go for between 200 - 700 gold depending on how greedy the seller is, and how desperate the buyer is.

The last way to obtain this is to spend a bit of time farming the Blue dragons in winterspring. I spent 3 months with no drops, my mate killed his first dragon and low and behold there was a sinew.
Most frustrating part of the quest.
But like I mentioned this is not a needed quest at all, although the reward is quite nice.

A Quiver with +15% speed increase on ranged weapons, as well as being 18 slot.

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The stats on the staff.

The stats on the staff are great... if you want to PvP. The stamina is awesome for longetivity, the mana is good for more arcane shots, and the crit is great to knock those pesky rogues, mages and other squishy type classes out in one hit.

I personally took my staff and placed another 22 intellect on it for increased mana.

For PvE I never moved away from my Bone Slicing Hatchet axes untill the Warblades of the Hakkari became available to me. These now have +15 agil on them, and the attack power increase as well as balance of crit make them far superior to the staff in many ways.

Fact: If your tank is doing a good job, and you are fiegning death properly, you will never need that extra stamina.

Fact: 2% crit can be gained from a variety of other sorces, including Fang of the Faceless, Brutality Blade, Core Hound Tooth and a multitude of other weapons. These other weapons will also boost your Agility, or attack power making them alot more Suitable for PvE.

Fact: The attack power against demons is a great help after you killed the damn demons... if it was Raw Attack Power this weapon would be more widley used in PvE encounters.

Kommentar von kreghx

http://tkasomething.com/avatarfaq.php go here and you'll kill all demons easly ;)

Kommentar von caleser

We'll never know what Blizzard was thinking when they decided to make the hunter's epic weapon a staff. Poor hunters, they look rather awkward running around with this because it is the first time it has been "okay" for them to carry a staff. The weapon itself though has great stats, though, and is a good reward for the hard quest that they have to complete to get it.

Kommentar von goldmember

Dont sell it i burning crussade , you will need it for quest.
Reward imba bow dont have link yet.

Kommentar von 139657

Also known as Lok'delar, Stave of Epic Bragging Rights.

Kommentar von Thottbot

you get the staff by completing a quest. the quest is u have to solo 4 60 elite demons (seperately of course). Noone can help which means no damage or heals or buffs from anyone else or the demon will despawn. There is kilifran the krazed, Simone the suductress, Artoris the doombringer, and solenar the slayer. go to warcraftmovies.com to find a video on all of the strategies. I am on this quest myself. just killed the first demon this morning :)
Good luck to all of you hunters out there.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You can be in a party, mostly hunters doing this quest pay people to help them kill all the other spawns around the demons. It definitely helps. Be careful about his creeping dooms though. and make sure everyone in the whole freaking ZONE knows you are doing this. I don't know how many time I had to do the Silithus demon, so many noobies think they are helping you by attacking the demon and his bugs. The demon in Silithus is by a very popular farming spot... so let everyone know not to attack it. He is on like a 2 hour respawn timer too. This thing is definitely worth it, the bow you get even more so!

Allyougot
Level 60 Hunter
Dragonblight

Kommentar von Thottbot

The hunter that posted that pic is in the Crypt! part of the Karazhan instance in deadwind pass. lol good show.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've had the staff/bow-combo for just over a week now.
Very nice improvement over my Mandokir's Sting and Zulian Stone Axe i got from Zul'Gurub indeed.
But the moment i showed my guild mates i finished the quest, some of them told me there are better hunter melee weapons out there.
So i would like you guys to give me your opinion on what i should replace the staff with.
Some ppl say the twin hakkari Warblades, but personally, i think they lack a good +% to crit.
I like the proc the Grasp-set has, but ppl say the proc is too rare to be fully dependant of.
I've passed on the Brutality blade before, since the +1% to crit isn't better then the staff's +2%, and the strength is useless to hunters alltogether.

Please share your thoughts on this.
Ps. Yes, my guild is still busy with the tier 2 instances, so either i get VERY lucky to get a hunter weapon from BWL or AQ40, or i should go for a tier 1 weapon.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The Lok'delar is one of the oddities in Warcraft for a hunter.

I was once, at level 34, wandering around with a staff on my back that had Attack power stats, alot of hunters laughed at th fact that I was using a staff...

Anyways, deviating from what I wanted to say...

You aquire this staff from a quest. The quest is obtained by looting the Ancient Petrified Leaf.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=37331

This leaf will be found in the chest after you have defeated Majordomo Executus in the Molten Core. This is the 2nd to last boss in Molten Core for those of you unaware.

The quest is then to go off and find out who this leaf belongs too.

Then there is 3 more quests that need to be done.

The first and probably the most difficult is the killing of four level 60 Elite demons. This will test you beyond anything you have ever done in Warcraft as a Hunter.

You can research the demons and strategies how to kill the demons elsewhere on the internet.

The second quest is killing the Brood Mistress, Onyxia. She has the potential to drop the Mature Black Dragon Sinew. This is the only item strong enough to be the draw string for your Bow, and unfortunatly you do need to have the sinew and the demons heads before you can take either the bow or the staff.

The third quest is the... most annoying, expensive or the easiest quest out of them all...
You have to get hold of a Mature Blue Sinew. This drops from Azuregos, I believe 100% of the time now, so if you are in a guild who can get to the out door raid bosses, then this is easy as hell.

This is a BoE item, so you may also find one in the Auction house, on my server they can go for between 200 - 700 gold depending on how greedy the seller is, and how desperate the buyer is.

The last way to obtain this is to spend a bit of time farming the Blue dragons in winterspring. I spent 3 months with no drops, my mate killed his first dragon and low and behold there was a sinew.
Most frustrating part of the quest.
But like I mentioned this is not a needed quest at all, although the reward is quite nice.

A Quiver with +15% speed increase on ranged weapons, as well as being 18 slot.

-----------------------------------------------

The stats on the staff.

The stats on the staff are great... if you want to PvP. The stamina is awesome for longetivity, the mana is good for more arcane shots, and the crit is great to knock those pesky rogues, mages and other squishy type classes out in one hit.

I personally took my staff and placed another 22 intellect on it for increased mana.

For PvE I never moved away from my Bone Slicing Hatchet axes untill the Warblades of the Hakkari became available to me. These now have +15 agil on them, and the attack power increase as well as balance of crit make them far superior to the staff in many ways.

Fact: If your tank is doing a good job, and you are fiegning death properly, you will never need that extra stamina.

Fact: 2% crit can be gained from a variety of other sorces, including Fang of the Faceless, Brutality Blade, Core Hound Tooth and a multitude of other weapons. These other weapons will also boost your Agility, or attack power making them alot more Suitable for PvE.

Fact: The attack power against demons is a great help after you killed the damn demons... if it was Raw Attack Power this weapon would be more widley used in PvE encounters.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes you are right 53 agi DOES equal 1% chance to crit...but you are an idiot...there is no way that a 1% crit is equal to 53 agi! You don't even get close to that attack power or dodge or armor or melee attack power...

Also the 2% chance to crit does not equate to agility
it is just an extra added to the agility stat

Think before you post big boy :P

Kommentar von Thottbot

What is the best hunter weapon?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Not really much point to getting this anymore. Everything in the Burning Crusade has better stats, but you actually could use it to hunter-tank the shamman boss in Gruul's lair (because of it's nature resistance). I'm gonna go get mine from those trees again just for the hell of it.
The main reason to get Rhok and Lok would be for the fun of the hunter quest you have to do. I enjoyed it quite a bit when I did it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Obs. This is a hunter restricted item.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Apparently you get both as of 1.8. ZOWEE! is all I can say.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I like how there are so many retards posting here. The people who posted @#$% like "PRIESTWEAPON ZOMG" are obviously kidding and didn't deserve an honest response. If they weren't joking, that just makes me feel even more depressed.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you are so damn stupid ^^
thanks for the laugh

btw. this is the best hunter melee weapon, so if you use xbow or gun, take the staff

barb of the sand reaver :) and its not worth doing q only for the staff but worth it as a brake to ashjre thul.... still staff is for cool pvping, zin'rokh is for really good looking pve, brutality blade and core hound tooth are good instance dmging, better than rok by far (38 more AP, same crit intellect needed = l2feignanddrinknubcake:P)

I havent even read any of the other comments yet, but my initial thoughts are that it sucks they made this hunter only, because hunters as a rule dont tend to melee.

I wish this was a shammy weapon, omg! can you imaging windfury with this thing?

like my other quoted guy said thanks for the laugh :p its a hunter epic q, if your guild allows non resto shamans (would be retarted to not ^^) i suggest nat pagle's terminator, or spinal reaper, better imo, and the staff is made FOR a hunter quest, not made for an epic endgame weapon

as for the windfuries, sorry but like i said spinal reaper ones are as good :P imagine dark edge of insanity ones lol, but i wish i had the link for sulfuron grand marshal shammy

2 scholars corrected :O

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, we get either dagger/bow (NE), Axe/Bow (Troll and Orc), mace/gun (Tauren), or axe/gun (Dwarf, aka Cannon Balls); where does staqff fit into this? I haven't figured it out- guess I'll go get the prof in staff and work it up

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I think you people are missing the point. Sure back when one turned into the other like Benni from the priest quest, there would be no point in using the staff because the bow is much better. You need to consider the fact that you get a bow *and* the staff. Separately, no changing one into the other. Plus, the stats on the staff are nothing to sneeze at. It just shows how overly dependant hunters are on agility that they think a staff sucks when it doesn't have some already on there. I'm glad for the change in BC when it will no longer be about who has piled the most agility on their items.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

With the new +25 Agility enchant I'll be using this for my PvE trinket.
26 Sta
25 Agi
15 Int
2% crit

Best I have atm and very efficient. I currently use Manslayer of the Qiraj as my PvP weapon.
62.5 dps
40 Agi
35 Str
20 Sta

Think they work nice that way.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I use dual-wield for two swords, each with +15 agi enchant, and use a sharpening stone on both for maximum DPS. That is a better agi bonus, better DPS, and I can get two different kinds of bonuses depending upon my choice of swords (or daggers or axes if I want).

As near as I can tell, I can do better with other weapon choices and this is of no value at all unless someone is strapped for cash or otherwise unable to collect the weapons. But if you can get the quest, you must be doing Molten Core, which implies you have access to better weapons (unless you have a sorry guild that always says you can't roll for any weapons).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i am only a lvl 22 hunter, but i use Living Root (staff) as my main melee weapon atm. From what i have seen staves are usually better than the other 2h weps at the same lvl if you can find the right one (the Root has 21.5 DPS and is usable at lvl 19 i believe) so while a staff tends to make you look like a mage, they are good weapons and IMO i prefer quality over vanity. So, all in all, I think this weapon rocks and can't wait to get it (if i ever do lol).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

it looks ugly :/

Kommentar von Allakhazam

To get the quest for this staff, along with Rhok'delar, you need to be in a guild that does Molten Core regularly and is able to kill Majordomo Executus. When he is defeated he'll drop a chest, the chest has a 50% chance of dropping an Ancient Petrified Leaf. You must take this leaf to some ancients in Felwood and they'll give you three quests.
One quest gives you an epic 18-slot quiver in exchange for a Mature Blue Dragon sinew. the sinew is BoP so you can buy it off the AH for around 500g.

Another quest will give you an Ancient Rune etched staff, to do this you must kill 4 demons in different zones throughout Azeroth, Winterspring, Un'goro Crater, Burning Steppes and Silithus. This quest can take months to complete because other players can easily make it impossible for you.
The third quest will give you an Enchanted Black Dragon Sinew in exchance for a Mature Black DRagon sinew which has about a 15-20% chance of dropping off of Onyxia. (may have been changed to 50% in 1.9 patch from what I've heard from some of the guilds on our server who kill Onyxia regularly.)

Once you have obtained the Enchanted Black Dragon Sinew and Ancient Rune Etched Staff, you can use those to create Rhok'delar, Lonbow of the Ancient Keepers. You also get Lok'delar, Staff of the Ancient Keepers. (you used to only be able to use one at a time and transform it to get the other but they changed it in a patch so you can use them both at the same time now)

This Staff, and more importantly the bow, can take months to obtain but is well worth the time and effort.

It's a staff because when you take the string off a bow what you get is a staff. doesn't really make sense since they now give you both at the same time but that's how it is.

Edited, Tue Feb 7 17:19:25 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

now i see that not only is my epic range is a bow, i
see that my other is a staff that is it!

/reroll

Kommentar von Allakhazam

look face it this staff has some massive stats on it compared to a duel weild for hunters which is genrally jst AP/AGI it has NR for AQ40 has nice melee crits on it i critted 1.3k other day and im MM no savage strikes ect put a 25 agi nchant on it and there you go better dps than 2X 1handers seen as the 2% crit adds much more dmg than a little bit more power i admit some higher lvl instances AQ40+ would make this look silly but the fact is it isnt. and i lok good using the bow and staff together :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

would REALLY be tempted to keep this in staff form and use strikers mark or something(until i get my epic set fist weapons :P )

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hunter ? what the f*ck !

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Picture anyone?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

All Enchants will be lost if you transform this thing. Some blue said this is going to be fixed, but don't expect it soon.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Definitely a Warlock Weapon. Warlock's would clearly benefit from this. If a hunter rolled on this, then I would blacklist him in a heartbeat. Warlock only weapon!

HOW DO YOU LIKE IT! It's time for revenge! AHAHA!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

PRIEST WEAPON N00BS HAHAHAHAHAHA

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Heres another thing to think about. This staff gives us an extra 45 AP against demons. Guess what we'll be fighting in BC? The NR helps out in AQ20/40 of course,and the 2% crit is really nice. Just slap an Agi +25 on it, and you're good to go

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lmao why in the hell would they give hunters a staff? i mean why not an axe? when yah think staff you think druid priest mage lock...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you are so damn stupid ^^
thanks for the laugh

btw. this is the best hunter melee weapon, so if you use xbow or gun, take the staff

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How exacly does this work , this "forming lok'delar"

is it a quest or ?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

id be using this staff for farming , eskhandar for pvp and the epic q bow + barbarous blade for molten core.

i hope ill get it soon ;) domo tomorrow

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lmao that suck so much , i have blackblade of shahram for my melee (60dps , and badass proc) and i switch with ym two bone slicing hatchet wiht +15 agy on both = (56 agy = 116 power and 1,90% crit) + 10 stam and the 56 agy dodge

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Rhok the best Hunter melee wep?.. hmm no.
-I think il stick to my good ol Zin'rokh ,Destroyer Of Worlds

Kommentar von Allakhazam

haha the guy in that pic's name is avatar on warsong server. he's one of the most hated alliance but damn he puts the best raids together, probably why he was the first person in the game to get this.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If you notice it says class: hunter there buddy. You get it from a hunter only quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

wtf? I could just get two brutality blades and be waaay better off for melee and ranged

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Would it be possible to get this and Rok'delar?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Lok'delar, Stave of the Ancient PWNAGE~!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the staff is retarted im a hunter i dont have either yet but yeh staffs gay as hell

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Could someone explain in detail where you get this quest from ? I could have sworn I saw a link on this website that gave instructions ohw to complete the quest step by step. Does anyone have that link ?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Alot of people are unhappy with this staff and myself am not overly keen on getting it either. But the point is, for someone who has just started raiding properly and managed to do the quests, the emphasis is just to give you a starting point. Its no mistake that Blizzard made it firstly a stave which not alot of hunters would be geared to use straight away, secondly one with unremarkable stats. The bow is the main point really and the staff many can simply do without. In short if your someone who raids really mildly and doesn't want to be at the mercy of drop rates, then you can just tune yourself to use it and its pretty decent, whereas if your someone who DOES raid alot then you can always get better wepeons as you wish and still get the epic bow from the quest. Sorry for the long post, not sure if you guys wil agree with me, just my opinion.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I hope that graphic is a placeholder.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Basicly u can Kill rogues in melee with that wep
1200 raptor strikes 900 melee crits thats imba

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Why would a hunter want this? Dr00ds use staffs more. .

:( Hunters get to have all the fun

Kommentar von Allakhazam

dudes, even though the BC is out, this staff is still one of the best you can get. There are only like two staffs better, and their both end of run Karazhan Purples, and if you somehow manage to get one youve either spent a ton of DKP or gold or gotten really lucky.
This staff is awesome

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Bit rubbish: No agi!
I'll admit i'm addicted to agility =(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hunter weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This staff is actually worse than quite a lot of blues :-(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

wat do hunters need with a pet once they get this?
just stack some stam in and win

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have this staff but i prefer use dal'rend that's all ...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

How would enchants work with this item? If you enchant it (say with +15 agi) would you still have the enhant when it changes to a longbow? If not would it still be on it when it changes back?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just to point out that the transform from Rhok'delar to Lok'delar as of the 1.8 patch is going to be lost!
...but it says you can talk to Vartrus the Ancient to receive the item you currently don't possess.
soooo does this mean you can have both weapons at once?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You all stupid!This wepon is only for HUNTERS , HUNTERS and HUNTERS!WE rULE!

Kommentar von manicsplendor

Hi all,
I just completed this quest and made my Rhok'delar Bow but when I clicked on the NPC again to get my Lhok'delar staff nothing happened. I know you have to be close to interact with the NPC so that is not the issue, then I read you click on the NPC that has the quest for the Lamina Quiver and now that quest is no longer there with him. I still have the quest, so it's available. This is doing my head in. Could it be addons? I don't think so. It was strange as after I made the bow I could click on the NPC, but nothing happened and then I clicked on the other NPC with the quest for the Lamina Quiver and it opened but I haven't completed that yet, so I cancelled then none of them were available. Can anyone shed some light?

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