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Kommentar von Nawkaga

Nicknamed "Nexusstrike" because of the opinon of most that it is a horrible weapon.

Well, it really is. At least you get Nexus Crystals from it.

Kommentar von greengoo

We call it "Vendorstrike". We once invited a Chinese Farmer into our guild, and he got it (no joke!). True story, he actually kept it. Good for Chinese farmers, bad for everyone else.

Kommentar von Manic77

I picked it up soley to have a purple polearm to level my skill with. Yay for excess DKP.

Kommentar von 6067

Be aware that if you change to Thunderstrike with an Enchant, it gets 'unenchanted'.

Kommentar von Nolimit

This thing is completely useless, we always disenchanted it :S

Kommentar von 8676

An item i recommend not getting lol. AKA the Vendorstrike, this item brings nothing at all. Complete trash. There are many better items that you can get and just as easy if not easier to obtain.

Kommentar von izlude

It was long known as Venderstrike (untill the addition of nexus crystals to the game.) then changed to Nexusstrike. DEd for its crystal as it is one of the few epics under level 60 to drop in MC (some FR pants too.) i have seen an alt take it before.

also note that despite what rockcruncher says the bug with enchanting has been fixed as of 1.10 patch.

Kommentar von Mikezila

Vendorstrike. I got it because it looks cool, and complete my Farmer's of the Dark Temple costume. Crochet Hat, Farmer Soldien's Pants, brawler's harness, vendorstrike.

It's Comedy gold!

Kommentar von supertao

You both get + 1

Kommentar von 122845

This is probably one of the worst polerarms out there. No stats, bad dps, and bad proq. The only good thign about it is you get a nexus crystal from disenchanting it.

Kommentar von humungus

I remember a few of these dropping way back in the day, all the good players would groan or make a joke but there was always some noob who would get really excited about it and would just be dying to spend some dkp on this thing.

Sometimes it was even a hunter /facepalm

Kommentar von bananastand

By the time I bought all my gear in MC I decided to start saving items from being sharded. This was the first thing I bought. I think I got unholy enchant on it and ran around in a deepdive helm with my dragonstalker leggings on claming to be King of the Sea... good times.

Kommentar von 168823

According to my calculations, this weapon is approximately useless.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hunters are ranged characters. Hunters need pets to help them get as much ranged damage as they can. I can see why a hunter would need a melee weapon, but when a ranged unit is trying to do as much ranged damage as they can before looking to a tank and healer to save their sorry asses, shouldn't that ranged unit who needs to do as much damage as possible with ranged attacks get something that helps ranged attack? Not a melee weapon that deals magic damage or heals a little with no agility buffs. Does it take a rocket scientist to see why this would not help a ranged unit increase their ranged attack as much as it would help a melee unit increase their melee damage?

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/7389/thunderstrikeandshadowstrike6p.th.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

wow this thing got a huge buff in patch 1.9. It's amazing now.

it went from vendorstrike to nexustrike.

Seriously tho it blows.

Kommentar von Thottbot

yes there are hunter weapons, except you have failed to list any, other than one that looks good on you.

Brutality Blade,
Boneslicing Hatchet,
Dawn's Edge

are all examples.

Survival hunters do well to consider Arcanite Reaper or other similar stat based slow 2h weapons when you have talents in Brutality.

Your thread was more of a counter moan than advice.

Re-roll a warrior please a

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nothing wrong with hunters having a bit of melee power, but it's just as bad for them. As people have said it's a much better idea to go for a stat based weapon than this useless... thing. We just disenchant it whenever it drops, the Nexus crystals are worth much more to the guild than a hunter having a weapon that'll just sit in his bank most of the time.

Kommentar von Thottbot

God, people actually use this piece of crap? My guild used to vendor this thing every time one dropped. And because Sulfuron hates us, it drops a lot. We used to call it Vendorstrike, but now it is Nexustrike! Get's DE'd every time. Whoever keeps saying this is a Hunter weapon is retarded. I'm a Hunter, and I wouldn't touch this polearm with a ten foot pole... arm. If you want a big two hander and you don't like your Lok'delar, get a Zin'rokh. I've got both, and they're both fun to tool on people with.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Vendorstrike,
Use: Transforms into Nexusstrike

kidding :)
But, in most guilds, seeing as it is a relatively week MC weapon, whoever wants to can DKP for it or just save it from becoming a nexus crystal.

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/Digitalshark23/mygear.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

Like others mentioned, there aren't many players that would really want a Shadowstrike, so what's all the fuzz about IF a hunter rolls on it? (In fact s/he'd just waste his/her need roll on it, saving the better hunter items for the smarter hunter players.)
The Shadowstrike dropped last night during my guild's MC run. The Loot Master was smart enough to just say 'Anybody who wants this, roll for it.'
And it was only a fury warrior who had an equal polearm (Ice Barbed Spear) and me, a hunter.
Lost the roll, didn't care too much, but it would've been a fun weapon to have.

Nothing any player class would really NEED, but fun to have still. And if you don't agree with me on that, stfu idc.

Gwindor, 60 hunter, Hellscream.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Great way for guilds to pick up Necus crystals, it drops all the time and usually drops 2 crystals. I have yet to EVER see someone on my server USING this thing.

Kommentar von Thottbot

A warrior in my guild actually wanted this and got it, to this day he still regrets wasting his DKP lol.

Kommentar von Thottbot

In patch 1.13 notes from teh future:

*Fixed a bug where Shadowstrike dropped off Sulfuron Harbinger instead of two Nexus Crystals.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have seen this item drop way to many times. It has no stats on it, DPS is not good, and the life stealing does not work alot. It is useless and no one should ever be seen with this item. It should always be turned into nexus crystals because the crystal would benefit the guild more than a hunter getting this. If you want a better polearm, Win 1 AV and get the Iced Barbed Spear because that is better. The sad part about it is that a LvL 51 can get this decent polearm. NexusStrike FTW!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Guys, you are really letting me down on this one, because this is like one of the crappyest weps ive ever seen lol. If you like it for the looks, go Brd and get that 'Flamewrath' dropped by Embassador Flamelash. If you think its good, Hunters : Need Crit % and AP.
Warriors: Get your lazy ass to AV and get UF!
Pala's: Same as warriors, or get healing stuff >.>

So, before getting all hot over a wep,think again. tbh i think its the lowby's that <3 it ^^. If your more experienced in the game, you find out that it is not that good at all.

Good luck and i might c ya @ Mazrigos :),

Syniie!

Kommentar von Thottbot

This thing suxs soooooo much. Much better wepaons out there in 5 mans like Dm's Barbarous Blade. Only thing this thing is good for are nuexus crystals. (Not bad money to vendor either)

Kommentar von Thottbot

i want this reallly bad, jus a couple lvls below it. i jus need to know where it is an whre to get it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

They should have called this thing "Guildstrike" because of the frequency of it's pathetic drops.
Guildstrike
Sells For 8 Gold 86 Silver 68 Copper
Transforms into Nexus Crystal
Chance on Drop: Cause Guild Members to go on a screaming, furious rampage at their REAL epics for not dropping.

Kommentar von Thottbot

THEY EVEN NERFED ITS PRICE! HA!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Nexus-strike!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got Shadowstrike with my paladin. Darkmoon Faire Warlords+Crusader+Shadowstrike= hit 600+get 100hp every hit. Sometimes when fully proc i hit for 1100+1300(seal of command)and 600hp in a time! Thats great

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Very nice/cool

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://home.earthlink.net/~masashi/shadowstrike-thunderstrike.JPG

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This item does not deserve epic colour. Arcanite Reaper is way better for MS warrior, and fury warrior can get much better 1h's in MC easily. Vendor\DE %^&*. (I have one, vendored it as I got my AR)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

guess its hunter stuff since they always die :/

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It's worth to Disenchant,

Kommentar von Allakhazam

VENDORSTRIKE!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For those who own this weapon. Not that I play a class that could even equip it, but I'm wondering if you got the weapon enchanted, then changed it into the other weapon... does it retain the enchantment or does it poof?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can the alliance get this weapon too?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hey if not anything else it looks cool as hell

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This "weapon" sucks in the extrem, in my guild we offer it round for a laught, then we shard it.

Its cr&p, nothing more needs to be said.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

hm.,.,,. got one but think its more a funny weapon then a endweapon! :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Picture of this on a UD warrior?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

1.8 will make it so Shadowstrike/Thunderstrike and Benediction/Anathema will now keep their enchants between forms.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

LvL 58 BoP epic? from MC?
WTF thats not right MC epics are possed to be lvl 60
all the other ones are.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got this the other night... cannot be enchanted and transformed. The proc is retarded(you'd be lucky to see it go each fight), this is basically an epic 59dps 2h weapon that cant be enchanted =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

any one know if the weapon toon is ever gonna be updated..i just got it for 70 DKP! and its coo but i wanna see if its ever gonna change

Kommentar von Allakhazam

since the 1.8 patch this weapon is just great ...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

They need to buff this BADLY. Either make it much slower and leave the DPS the same, leave the speed and up the DPS, or add some kind of stats/resistances. 10-15 Fire or shadow resistance on each form would rock - at least make it somewhat worth of the purple name. As it stands it's basically a blue.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this sux for hunters (no stats)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For a protection spec tank, why not? I mean arms warriors and paladins snatch up all the OEB's and such that drop and know we don't >need< a nice 2 hander, but grinding up gold or helping level a friends alt can be a drag and something like this makes it a little more fun.

Eh, better off camping AV for a while and getting TUF, but I like Polearms because not many folks have em. But I'd get to use this when we let other warriors tank trash mobs. This dropped last week and I let a pally that wanted it have it. But he was the only one, so if it drops again....I'm like to get it. woot!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

and therefore, its commonly known as the vendorstrike, because nobody use it, they just vendor it. after nexuscrystals came, it have also been known as nexusstrike

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Why would you want this on a hunter? There arent any stats to benifit you at all.... You would want this just for greed cause its an epic. A hunter using this over a melee class is lame. They the Barbarous Blade. Now that is a hunter sword. Or the Arcanite Reaper.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Uber, What drops it and where does it drop?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just got this tonight and I must say, it's the sadest epic in MC as of now. but it's still awesomely cool, looks great and its very original.
I ain't bashing it since I really %^&*ing love it. Just hope blizzard will get ther *!@# togeather and make it a real epic item instead of a highend-rare with purple color :P

If you compare it to say the doomsaw. the doomsaw is slightly better, how sad isn't that?

Edited, Sun May 8 02:20:26 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This item does not deserve epic colour. Arcanite Reaper is way better for MS warrior, and fury warrior can get much better 1h's in MC easily. Vendor\DE #$%^. (I have one, vendored it as I got my AR)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Blizzard, please remove this item, make it blue and let Hogger or maybe Gobbler drop it. Everytime it drops everybody clap their forehead. Only useful for one thing, stock up shards.

Or let it proc 25%, than some might consider taking it. Just huh...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Feck it i know its a pants epic but i just got it for 5dkp as it was going to be d/e'd. the enchant stays on now np.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just got this tonight(dropped off Sulfron or w/e his name is)

on Shadow Moon server... tried to enchant it with a small enchant(+3 damage) to test it. I transformed the item and boom - enchant gone. Transformed it back and still no enchant. gg =P

fun item for pvp though =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

eh. other than it having no stats i dont really see why it sucks. It has pretty high dps.If it didnt cost me any points id snatch that up.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lolpolol

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I just got this a little while ago on my Hunter. Nobody else wanted it and I got it at discounted DKP. Now its just for novelty purposes, not to be taken seriously, something to use when forced into melee range like Lava Annihilators.

My question is what would be a good idea to enchant it with? Fiery seems like out of the question since MC and beyond mobs have incredibly high Fire resist. Unholy looks okay, but don't want to take up the debuff limit when striking. Lifestealing or Crusader for extra healing in either form might be helpful. Or just +9 damage for simplicity?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Why would you waste DKP on this piece of crap.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The only benfit i can see of having this peice of crap is the 9g it vendors for.
This should be a blue that drops in scholo not an epic in MC. The ZG polearm is twice as good.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lol this crappy weapons dropped yesterday...DEed it and got 2 Nexus crystals! w00t...not so useless after all

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have this on my pally on Tichondrius (Cato).

The lifetap can proc off of seal of command, like fiery weapon enchant (the 40 damage 1 target one, not the AE... I get the names mixed up). I'll prolly get it fiery enchanted once they fix the switch form thing so enchants stay.

I'd rather have an OEB, but I'm definitely doing more damage than I was with blackhand doomsaw (which I also had fiery on). And I got it for all of 9 DKP, so a nice bargain.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

stop saying its crap..ITS NOT

its damage is kool,it looks kool..it IS Kool

all i can say is bliz need 2 bump up some stats..like +20stam and +20agi(then it would b SiCk)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

lolpolol

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Grats to Helious of Retribution who now equips this weapon.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ok, not saying you are wrong, but could someone explain why the Doomsaw is considered better? This one has a slightly smaller max hit, which might be a concern for me as a MS warrior, but it's not a whole lot, and the overall DPS for a non MS warrior is increased. The proc seems useful to me, especially since I usually work as a straight DPS warrior and just worry about cleaves and AOEs from boss fights. Might save my healers a few casts that they can use on the main tank.

Does it proc a lot less than the Doomsaw?
Anyway, if someone can post the logic behind it perhaps I can learn something today.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

even if they dont buff this, it is good patch material (1.9), coz epics will prolly diss into nexus crystals, which are used fro some very funky enchants..

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just got one... gave 250dkp for it, only coz i havent gotten anything for so long now... just took it for fun (im not a pvp'er) and ill still get a hammer of titans

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Does anyone know what the chance for it to proc is?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This thing is terrible, no ands, ifs or buts.

Arcanite Reaper is better in every way.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this is a good dps weapon for certain fights where you are taking incidental damage and the fight lasts a long time. golemag or onyxia for example. this plus crusader plus heroism card gives you nice periodic healing which keeps you in the fight longer and uses up less mana from healers.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Many guilds on my server just DE this thing instantly.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What, No one gonna bash hunters on this weapon too? Wow, must be because no one cares... I wouldnt mind this weapon on my 60 hunter or paladin

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I actually have 2 of these (one in each form) so i can enchant them, but rumor says it will no longer be able to be enchanted... picked up the battlegrounds polearm from the first quest you can get outside alterac and it's so much better. might be selling one simply becasue of the possibility it cannot be enchanted anymore.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have this weapon. I enchanted it with unholy enchant. Since patch 1.8 I can switch the weapon between Shadowstrike/Thunderstike and the enchants stay. The problem I'm facing now is the enchant will not Proc.

Trying to get intouch with Blizz and the GM's say They can't tell me anything. The support line says they can't tell me anything. Who do you talk to about something like this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Also known as the Vendorstrike

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Because it looks insane ofcourse!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is a PoS lol. My guild any many other on my server get mad when this drops over Epic spauldors like NS, GS, Might, or Prophecy. I hope they make this a lot better or lower the drop rate of it by a lot because it makes everyone mad when it drops : (. It's eighter given away for VERy little dkp, denched, or vendored. AKA Vendorstrike

Edited, Tue Sep 13 14:25:01 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I love the weapon, on rogues its pretty nice. All the dodges makes it easy to make crits with Overpower + you dont have to repair this weapon, just change it to thunderstrike and then make it shadowstrike again = 120/120 again (Maybe its a bug, but its pretty nice) Dont see any reasons to remove this wep, it will get better in next patch while Obsidian Edged blade will be nerfed.

<3 it! (i agree in that blizzard should set the drop rate a little down) i got mine for only 15 RP, the lowest you can ;) - GL m8s

Edited, Fri Sep 30 05:13:28 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

sucks.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Man, this thing could be awesome if it had a buff. Highest chance to drop off of Sulfuron, and looks great. I've heard rumors of a buff, but ATM this is a hideous "epic" and until the buff it is officially vendorstrike.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

No one in my guild wants this...obviously but if i could get it without spending dkp (this thing isint worth one) i think id equip it when im running around just becasue its funny to have the worst epic in the game.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Perhaps the only item I've seen here that I truely thought was just plain amazing for the 'cool factor' of 'morphing' it.

What does it look like? Any screenshots?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i heard blizzard was redoning the stuff on this polearm is it true?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Cool polearm. :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Cool polearm. :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The transformation reminds me of "Vibrating gauntlets of infuse" but without the sexual conotations

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got this a few days ago, and it is very nice. I respected, since I am a paladin, to retribution, and with seal of command on myself as well as blessing of kings i can hit occasionally for about 1400 damage. It Crits for 700 Damage then 400 for the Seal of Command, and 300 if the proc goes off. Its a nice weapon, and you stand out in a crowd :)

-Splatter-
Warsong

Kommentar von Allakhazam

got it gogo nexus....
pala frostmoure

Kommentar von highvoltage988

"I am not wasting DKP on *that* piece of crap"

Kommentar von Punka21

When my Classic guild first downed Sulfuron Harbinger over a week ago and this dropped, we gave it to one of the Fury Warriors and began calling him our mascot. We then kneeled around him in a circular fashion with his character naked and wielding the sorry excuse for an epic, and took a screenshot. Now we have similar screenshots of him and us in front of the corpses of Onyxia and Ragnaros, plus one of him flexing in Majordomo's lava pit while being healed.

Kommentar von devath

Let's be real here, while the speed is not ideal. It does not have any stats. It's still a decent weapon with 60 dps. If you can get it for very cheap (and you most likely do) take it. I'd use it for pvp anytime over rare weapons.

Also you can give this to 59lvl twink as it requires only level 58 to use. Go melt some faces.

Kommentar von GuyWithCoolName

The comment section is a testament to how bad wow classic playerbase was and still is to this day. Look at the damage range and average damage on this thing. It's comparable to arcanite reaper without the 50 arcane crystals requirement. It's nowhere as good as the unstoppable force but it will keep you on the charts in both pve and pvp.

Kommentar von Kanariya

Droprate is more like 99%.

Kommentar von HiggyNess

So, as a proud owner of this thing in Classic, might as well lay out some useless trivia nobody's asked about.

GENERAL RULES:

It retains any enchantments, both real and blacksmithing stuff, and also sharpening stones, when switching between forms.
Switching between the forms takes 10 seconds and looks like a Holy spell being channeled. Switching IS affected by damage pushbacks, and obviously will be interrupted if you're, for example, knocked down during the channeling.
It starts 30 second cooldown when equipped much like any trinket, thus you must wait before being able to switch to the other form. Switching also triggers another 60 second cooldown that must pass before you'll be able to switch again.
It cannot switch forms while you're mounted.
Both Shadowstrike and Thunderstrike procs have 'Cannot be used while shapeshifted' flags listed on Wowhead.
If you use any sort of weapon switching macro that uses weapon names, it WILL NOT recognize Shadowstrike/Thunderstrike as the same weapon and thus you'll have to modify your macro each time you switch between the forms.
Switching between the forms has NO effect on item's durability in Classic.
It takes ~35-40 white hits or ~120-150 swing seconds to bring down a Auferstandene Wache with Shadowstrike/Thunderstrike auto-attacks only (T1 Ret, 10% physical crit).
Shadowstrike vendor price is 9g 85s 14c, while Thuderstrike vendor price is 9g 70s 74c. This makes a grand total difference of 14s 40c between the two forms.

SHADOWSTRIKE:

With a sample size of 10 Risen Guards or ~370 white hits in total, proc happened 2 to 4 times across a fight with any single Risen Guard, never less than 2 procs. This brings its expected PPM to a mighty ~1.5, maybe 2 if we're feeling generous.
Blutsauger, which is cast on proc, looks like a Death Coil, deals Shadow damage and heals you for exact amount of damage done. It IS affected by Spell Power, but NOT by Healing Power: having +9 SP eventually made it hit/heal for 185 (with 180 being a supposed maximum), but healing gear made no difference whatsoever. Wowhead also implies that it has 40 yd range, though this, I suppose, doesn't really matter since it procs only from melee attacks.
Proc IS affected by Shadow Resistance/Immunity on a target. If target is Immune, Shadowstrike proc does no damage, nor does it heal you. Resists are partial; it will heal you for whatever amount wasn't resisted.
It CAN proc off the additional Holy attack from Seal of Command.
Proc CANNOT crit.
Proc can be absorbed by Shadow Ward, and the absorbed damage WON'T heal you.

THUNDERSTRIKE:

Proc rate seems to be same or close to same as with Shadowstrike, 2-5 procs per one Risen Guard or ~1.5 PPM.
Proc affects your main AND 2 OTHER targets closest to your main one. Moreover, in your combat log your main target might be shown as actually being hit last.
Proc has a nominal range of 30yd (contra 40yd from Shadowstrike).
Proc seems to be unaffected by SP, or it scales very poorly: I haven't seen a hit larger than 250 damage throughout a week, but I did saw a hit for a flat 150, having +9 SP on me all the time.
Couldn't get it proc off SoC attack, but it DID proc off a damaging Judgement.
Proc itself is Kettenblitzschlag. It deals Nature damage, as any Lightning bolt. It has no effect on anything that is immune to Nature damage.
Proc can be fully resisted, but only on your main target.
Proc WILL break CC (sheep etc) indiscriminately.
Proc WILL target and pull neutral/non-engaged hostiles indiscriminately. It will not target critters.
Proc CAN crit (for x1.5 damage, I presume), and a crit chance on each target is calculated separately.

Do what you will with this information.

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