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Kommentar von 5487

This is a great dagger for offhand for any DW class. One of the best before raids. Well worth the effort to get to baron.

Kommentar von 7073

Good offhand dagger for rogues pre MC. It drops of Baron Rivendare in stratholme (Undead Side).

Kommentar von Thottbot

It's fast. VERY fast.

It has a low maximum dmg.

It is "One-Hand", not "Main Hand"

Conclusion = Fast Offhand-Dagger for applying some poison to your enemies, while you have a slow, high maximum dmg weapon in your main hand ... (I'm using Skullforge Reaver as mainhand weapon, since I'm lacking a better one right now)

Arr, I say. ARRRRR ! 1^^

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hey Rogues, if any bow or gun that gives you a bonus to attack power, base %'s, or stats drops, roll on it!

After all, that attack power will add maybe a fraction of a damage point to your high end melee damage!

Here are some candidates:

Ancient Bone Bow, gives rogues +11 Agility!

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=37260

Striker's Mark, +22 Attack power! improves your chance to hit by 1%, a rogue drop if i ever saw one!

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27150/61-test-green-rogue-hunter-cloak

Burstshot Harquebus, +10 Attack power! Damn rogues, drool, that's at least 0.5 extra DPS, it's time to roll!

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=13248/explosionsschuss-arkebuse

Since Hunters feel the need to roll on every item they can use,
Axes, Bows, Crossbows, Daggers, Fist Weapons, Guns, Spears, Staves, Swords, Thrown, Two-Handed Axes, or Two-Handed Swords, and because rogues can really only use one weapon they've specialized in in melee, we owe it to our greedy hunter friends to start rolling on bows, guns, and crossbows!

Go ahead, roll on a really good ranged weapon when there are hunters in your party, it FEELS GREAT! When they complain, just explain how you really "needed" it because the stat bonuses apply to melee.

And don't forget, that little attack power or stat bonus could REALLY help you in a pinch when you are in melee if you have a good ranged weapon in your rogue arsenal!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Any good master looter will realize what is at hand with an item such as the one we see here.

You look at the bottom line in terms of how the class thats rolling on the item will use it. Both classes, in this case, have valid points for rolling.

Hunters: fast attack, more chances for wingclip landing, more attacks in the small amount of time he gets close to you. attack power for his ranged weapon dps.

Rogues: fast attack, great for off-hand, providing more chances to proc poisons. attack power for dps.

The one thing that would push this item over the edge for rogues is the fact that the class relies on melee DPS for their combat. Hunters on the other hand have a bow/gun for main attacks, making this clearly a rogue-over-hunter item...

If no rogues are present or the rogues pass, go for it hunter!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just got this about a week ago, I think it's a great replacement for the Lifeforce Dirk (rogue, using in offhand). I was just wondering if you rogues out there thought it was worth a +15 agility enchant. I currently put a +4 damage on it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ninja'd by a druid against 2 rogues.

Kommentar von Thottbot

would duel wielding two of these be a good idea? :S

Kommentar von Thottbot

Warrior equivalent = 15str
A rogue needs 30 of str/agi to match it.
A Hunter needs 15agi to match it.

All before we take into account crit/dodge. These things are nice for a Fury Warrior, nice for a hunter, insane for a rogue.

All roll on it, but think and, tbh a hunter can get more raw AP out of Lightning reflexes and 2xBone-slicers (33.8ap), which come from the same instance.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Another rogue vs hunter vs warrior weapon thread

/sigh

Kommentar von Allakhazam

49 runs and counting. Ive never even seen it drop. I think its a myth.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yesterday on my 20th run Baron dropped this and Kilt of Elements. I was sure I had it as I was the only rogue around and rolled my need then.

Then suddenly I notice some extra need rolls on this and the Elements leggings. There was a warrior, priest and Warlock who all rolled on this and Those Elements leggings. Warrior won this and Warlock won those mail leggings.

There is no questioning if they really had use for those items. They just wanted to be complete idiots.

Seems like I've to keep running this instance even more.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Boyfriend got this for his offhand a few days ago. I enchanted it with 15 agility, which I think is the best choice for this dagger. Another good one would be plus 5 damage but it is by no means a "cheap" enchant like someone below suggested. Just look at the mats.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

crusader/lifesteal are both great enchants, but knowing that bonescraper wasnt my end-game dagger, i wasnt going to spend 75g on it... instead i ran maraudon one time with my enchanting friend, d/e the blue items, and used the small radiant shards from that to get icy chill... however i recently was given a krol blade, so the bonescraper sits in my first slot in my bag, and the macro to swith weapons gets used while in stealth, then the bonescraper goes back in da bag :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Fast off hand weapons need proc enchants, not stat enchants.

This is a very nice piece, dropped the same time as my pants, very happy:)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This or distracting dagger? Which is better?
Ablenkender Dolch

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped yesterday and no one (except me) wanted it so i took it. good offhander for my fury warrior :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Grabbed it first run about 2 months ago, only rogue.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

second time i see it drop i was allmost sure that i would get it but then,, shaman rolls and wins
>< god damnit

Kommentar von Allakhazam

nice dagger... finally at lvl 60 i have somethin to replace my gutripper that i bought 19 lvls ago :) works great with icy chill enchant and hopefully will look nice next to the heartseeker im about to get

Kommentar von Allakhazam

1.4 speed will give you very low dmg ambush/backstabs/SS/whatever compared to barman shanker, wich can be soloed... this is perfect for off-hand though.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

That dagger is kinda "Meh" if used as a main-hand dagger for a Ambush/BS rogue.

Your best bet is to try and get Barmans Shanker.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've been doing strat UD a while.. Think I'm somewhere around 35 runs now. :-) Rewards so far:
* Shadowcraft Pants
* Skullforge Reaver
* Skullforge Reaver
* Bonescraper
* Bonescraper
* Cape of the Black Baron
++ some other green things, like a +20 fire res. belt.

Strat UD ftw ;-)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Did baron first time last night at 57....He dropped shadowcraft pants and this....I rolled on the pants got 75...other rogue got 76....I got angry then i rolled for this thinking it was a bonesnapper....i win with a 91....check my inv and say WTF.....very nice offhand

Edited, Wed Jun 29 08:13:43 2005

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wich one is better to ambush and bs whit , this or Lifeforce?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'd take this for my hunter if no rogues wanted it. Compared to the bone slicing hatchet, it's the equivalent in attack power of 2 more agility. The crit from agility is lost, as well as the 5 stamina, but strictly from a PvE damage standpoint, this is superior.

Again, though, I'd give priority to a rogue, just because it's a dagger, even though there's better stuff out there for them. Wouldn't want to be called a ninja for being a hunter. :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Only rogue in raid FTW! ;D Got it asap :)
I switch between this and krol blade.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ive gotten Finkles skinner AND this.. but I want SWORDS.. im a sword rogue.. so in the bank it goes. (i was only rogue) Why cant I trade this for skullforge >.<)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

bowya finished my first baron run yesterday was sooo lucky i won almost evry green drops and blues from ther mobs and bosses than we came to baron gues what SCpants on my first run bonescreaper dropped with it too but i greeded on it cuz im into swords but that was maybe a bad ID cuz pretty low dropchance i might switch to daggers if i get anepic out of ZG or so today =D

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i use this for my offhand, being a troll rogue when i hit slice and dice and beserking (especially with low health) my speed is absolutely insane :D i would reccomend this big time!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

25+ runs and counting...

BTW this is offhand dagger, anyone who uses it in mainhand is a retard.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

is this dual wield able

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what the !@#$ i DEed it and got a nexus crystal! im a lucky *!@#er

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Yeah, it's an incredible off-hand weapon since it'll boost main hand backstabs/ambushes/sinister strikes, but the damage is meh for main hand.

As to enchants, personally I put firey on it because I know I'll replace it soon with a heartseeker and because 1.4 attack speed means plenty of procs for 40 damage each. Very fun to turn on Slice 'n' Dice and watch the enemy's sorry ass get burned...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Been running this instance a whole lot, curent lvl 58 and got like 130k exp just running Baron, on my 15th run it dropped this dagger i was the only rogue. But guess what..... some hunter pulled the abomination mob by the gate and i got locked outside , better luck and communication next time I hope.

Kommentar von addohm

This plus Ablenkender Dolch would be pretty dope for tanking Vael, and any other fight where it's hard af to rage starve.

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Gegenstandsstufe 62
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Einhändig	Dolch

40 - 74 Schaden	Tempo 1.40

(40.71 Schaden pro Sekunde)
Haltbarkeit 65 / 65

Benötigt Stufe 57
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