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Kommentar von 5997

Anyone got any idea which class would get priority on this as a need roll? I'd say it would be a fight between warrior and paladin, maybe a shammy too.

Kommentar von 8089

Good shield for any shield wearing class. Fairly common drop too.

Kommentar von 7901

Great blue shield for any class 51+ that can use shields and it covers pretty much every stat that a class would require.
Fairly Common drop, and if you aren;t lucky enough to get it to drop. It is fairly cheap of the Auction house on most servers!

Kommentar von bookworm13

Shaman and paladins might also want to consider Gizlock's Hypertech Buckler (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=17718) from Maraudon.

I feel mp5 (mana regen) is much more useful to either class than spirit since you are rarely going to be within the 5 second rule in combat for spirit to be effective. Even with the shaman review and BC, shaman are horribly mana inefficient, and this could even serve as a healing off-hand for long fights. OOM shaman are often looking at that reincarnation button :).

Kommentar von 48977

I mean not to be mean, but if you have the Gizlock's Hypertech Buckler, you should think about getting the Crest of Supremacy.

This shield is going to last you until Outland and maybe then some. The stats on the shield are good for the classes that use shields. A little bit of everything increases the ability to tank in anything. I got this shield in my Sunken Temple run to do my Paladin quest. I saw the dragon and thought, hey, this could be fun. He dropped the shield and some glove intowhich i was allowed to need and equiped them.

The effective stats on the shield is good for practically everyone.

Kommentar von Ismat

Changed in patch 2.3 from:

Crest of Supremacy
1930 Armor
35 Block
+6 Strength
+6 Agility
+7 Stamina
+7 Intellect
+7 Spirit

to

Crest of Supremacy
1930 Armor
35 Block
+10 Stamina
+ 10 Intellect
Equip: Restores 4 mana per 5 sec.

This makes it a significantly better casting shield for pallys/shaman, but any warriors who have it aren't going to be happy.

Kommentar von 118610

I have to ask why Blizzard decided to change this to something that is almost identical to the hypertech buckler... The stamina difference is negligible when one considers that both shields are probably sought by holy paladins and resto shammies, who, in PvE, should not be facing much incoming damage anyway.

IMO, one of the shields should be changed to fit a different play style (perhaps a shield with spell damage for elemental shamans or something more fit for tankadins?). Such a change would provide some nice item variation.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a Warrior, I won the shaman shield found in Mauradon by default because there were no shaman in the group, and no other warriors. And that was better than my previous shield. Moreover, I took Crest of Supremecay over that Goblin shield in a heartbeat.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Take your eyes off the stats and look at the armor rating, let alone the +stamina and +strength. I'm a prot warrior and primarily use 1H + shield. I'll roll NEED for this.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a 58 pally and I still use this shield as I have not yet had a better one drop. Though it is a good pally/shamy shield due to it's coverage of all stats, it is true that an equal to this shield in armor and block is hard to find at this level; therefore wariors should be allowed to roll need against any hybrid class. Also, for both pallys and shamys I think this shield is superior to Gizlocks Hypertech Buckler, which is the goblin drop in Mara. Just one pally's humble opinion.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Don't forget that in order to get this shield (Shaman/Pallys) you'll most likely need a Warrior to tank the instance with his 1h/Shield. Saying that he isn't allowed to roll on such an obvious upgrade makes very little sense, considering his shield goes to MUCH more use throughout the instance.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This shield is a fair toss up for all of the above. Having played a paladin to 60 and now working on a warrior, I can say that as a paladin I wouldn't mind losing this to a warrior, and as a warrior I wouldn't mind losing this to a shamen. Shamen/Paladin get an excellent shield much more suited to them from Maraudon. Most warriors going after this shield probably still have the shield from Scarlet Monistary and as such would be foolish to pass up on this as its the only decent upgrade from the SM shield in a long time. If you need it, roll. If you have your Maraudon shield, give this to the warrior.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Heh it kinda makes me angry when i see shamans ^&*!@ing about how they should get this shield and whatnot. I'm betting that while you were leveling you were rolling on shield with +str and +sta against warriors. Did they have dibs on it since those are main tanking stats? I think not, so before you start whining think of how many other warriors are getting outrolled by you on shields they need. And yea i've seen shamans roll against warriors for Draconina Deflector, Talk about Bastage.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was in a group w/ another warrior running helping run him through ST. There was a shaman in the group also. he was using the shield from Mara. i was using a crap shield "of the bear" green item. The other warrior was fury spec'd dual wielding. The shaman declined this shield. This was a PUG and i was ready to not loot this shield also. But after he saw what i was sporting he let me have it. Bottom line, the item should go to the person who needs it most. And a little common courtesy in groups will take you a long way. Take away the other 2 attributes to the shield and its a great all around for any class that can wield a shield.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As this is a very balanced shield (little bit of everything) I think this is the best Paladin shield for a long time. If you�re not Protection-speced you won�t mind the smaller block value compared to other shields.

I�ve worn this for several months. I got myself other good shields as well (like the Rhombeard Protector for casting, the Draconian Deflector for tanking Drakki), but this is the definite allround--Paladin shield.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well considering we had a Shaman in our group at the time this thing dropped, we compared shields. I really liked the stats on this thing, but when we looked up each others shields he had the one from SM and i had Aegis of Stormwind, so i let him have it. Boy was he pleased!

I expect the same courtesy to be repaid when i get to that level with the Shaman i am currently leveling. Although, i don't think it will...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ive been there like 10 times , it dropped 2 times but i lost the rolls , im still looking for it , now the wand and dagger drops only. Im hoping that it will drop soon

Khondar
Nordrassil

Kommentar von Thottbot

How can you &*!@# so much over a shield? Yes it'd be nice to get this ( i'm a warrior ) I could see a shammy or a pally have an equal chance rolling on it. I mean yeah i'd LIKE to have it but i'm not gunna be unfair.

Obviously blizz put intel and spirit on there for a reason. It's meant for multiple classes.

Kommentar von Thottbot

First ST run last night, group was 51 pala (me), 54 pala, 51 mage, 52 druid and 56 druid... and this dropped from Eranikus :)
Made me a very happy pala :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Obviously it's liek 3% better for Shamans and Paladins, but it's a perfect Warrior shield all the same. It'd be unfair to tell them to go farm Lord Roccor for his shield too.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have seen blue shields at lvl 56-60 that are not even as good as this! sure they have more armour but only by like 200...i would chose this shield over something that had lets say 2200 armour with no stats! im 60 with this shield...as a pally i think this is a great shield...and for horde great for shammys too...(of course at this point im doing lots of ZG and stuff so im hoping to find a better one)

Kommentar von Thottbot

we went into ST with one warr, rouge, 2 pallies and a priest, and we flew through

last battle for the shield was between me and the other pally it but i won it in the end, great upg for me

last boss is not hard, me and war tanked by backing ourselves to a wall and having the others attack behind.

Kommentar von Thottbot

would definitely roll need on this for my warrior. would expect the same from a pally or shaman. All classes should be expected to at least have the Aegis of the Scarlet Commander since it's not rare, if you don't have this or something better it's noone else's fault but your own. I say this and the BRD shield are the only things available for a warrior to get a new superior shield. To hell with the piddly amount of int and spirit, take away those stats and it's still a great shield. Has 4 more block than the BRD shield - when you're a prot warrior spamming imp shield block/revenge that's two potential blocks per cast... those 4HPs add up over time.

I'd say if you had stoneshell already to not roll on this unless you had no other shield user... or at least greed roll while the real needy rolled need. I'd let a pally get this if I had the BRD shield. But I'd most likely avoid grouping with a pally in ST to avoid the angst.

With drop rates like they are, don't expect to run an instance once or twice and think you're done with it. Might take 2-3 drops of the item you want before you actually get it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Cold forged hammer from AV + Crest of Supremacy = Shammys/palis dream come true :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a 49 pally who had to run Mara 9 times to get Gizlok's buckler. It was 4 days of running Mara back to back. When it finally dropped I was so happy. Well as soon as I get the buckler I get an invite to run ST for the first time with my pally. We were one warrior and 3 casters. I knew the warrior was running ST just for the sheild since he is 52 and still using the scarlet. I was going to pass on the Supremecy if it dropped since I finally got my buckler and I could'nt equip it for two more levels anyways. Well right before the boss the priest had to leave. We tried to kill the boss with 4 and got wiped twice. So the warrior decided he would log out and come back with his 70 hunter. So with 2 casters and a hunter the sheild became mine=) He was mad cuz he never sees it drop with his warrior. So between getting both sheilds,the fist of stone mace,and the plate belt that drops in ST I finally think Blizz no longer hates me........for now=)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Last night I went with a few others from my guild as a tag-a-long to see the instance (I'm currently only a lvl 36 pally, but as for the others- lvl 67 lock, 54 mage, 52 hunter, and a 47 priest). Well when we eventually got to Eranikus he dropped this! I damn near crapped my pants lol! And now I've got a friggin awesome sheild waiting for me when I hit 51. :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

what the hell are u talking about? THIS IS SHAMAN+PALADIN SHIELD. warrior what the hell does 7 intel give to u .. well that would actually help u . i got a paladin and if i see a warrior that needs on it.. and there is a paladin or shaman in group he should stop playing WOW and go back to breatfeading. .. i was very happy when this dropped for my paladin.. i was lvl 51.. and about to ding.. the warrior was smart and greed on it even though he had scarlet shield.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This shield is for both pallies and shamans, i wouldnt reccomend it for a warrior or any other shield bearing class, the intel does nothing for you and you can get better from dm. i just got this shield with 1 run thru after out rolling a ninja. he was rolling need as a rouge and i rolled higher, he thought he won it so he hearthed and logged. this shield seems to be pretty popular for ppl that cannot use them..... either way this shield is very easy to get, and it kicks ass for mana users, its not that good for a warrior but hey w/e if you dont have better and you need a shield take it that is unless there is a pally or sham in ur grp....

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just got this shield as a pally, won the need roll off a worrior, but was a deffinate upgrade for both of us so I had no problem with that

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a warrior and I went into ST wanting to get this shield.

Got it on the first run through. Personally I don't see any problem with wanting a shield that buffs all stats and has such great armor and block bonuses. Looking at all of the other blue shields up through 55 I'd have to say that I prefer this one over all the others except for the epic Skullflame, which is near impossible to get so...I'll be enjoying this shield for a while.

Kommentar von Thottbot

2.3 should end the debate about who this shield should go to...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Looks like patch 2.3 is making this purely a pally/shammy shield. Unfortunately, there is still no dungeon-drop or quest-reward shield for warriors in their 50's. Being that the shield that drops in Mara is also a shield for mana users, I kind of hoped that they would make this a warrior shield to be the upgrade for warriors tanking with the Aegis of the Scarlet Commander.

Kommentar von Thottbot

warriors can still use the stanima and the armor, so if i played a warrior instead of a pally i would still roll on this
Cormann
Staghelm
alliance

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ive ran this inst about 25+ times. Im confused about the drop rate. Thottbot here sais it a 3% chance? Other databases say that its a 20% chance to drop. The math doesnot add up as I have almost given up on farming this shield? Any comments or is Thottbot accurate on this 3% droprate? Im begining to think so although its drop rate is contested by 2 other sites.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wow, this is a great shield for Shamans, any spec will do, but elemental and resto benfit most ofc. Sure the goblin shield from Maur is good, but this is better, they changed the stats so now it's even better then the old one. Oh btw, shamans CAN tank up and including BRD, although we don't have the same taunt mechanics as paladins, but they had much less when the game came out so at the end, (/sigh) you have to be skilled to taunt 4 mobs on you as shaman. So thats why first to roll should be a prot pala.

Only prot pala should really go for high amounts of block and armor, any other specced pala or shammy should focus just on stats. I (50 enhc. SS crit shaman) still have pit fighters shield and some bloke needed to ding 300 enchanting so i have 9 spirit on it too for free. Its a quest reward for horde but is rather similar to the rare from RFD (less good looking hpmf) but better stats for me. If i need to tank non-elites together with my mage buddy i use a very good green, that has more armor and block, bit like SM shield. So to switch between off-heal (good mana set too) with pittfighters and tank-dps with green i have absolutely no problems at all.

Although i can use this shield to replace both and yes, it is better, i will never roll against a serious prot warrior who needs it. For me its a luxury shield (ofc, i DW or 2H most cases thats what i'm specced for) for the warrior its bitter greed of something better till outland, unless he is lucky to do some BRD and find something better after ST which you WILL certainly run cause allmost every class needs ST for their quests.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I had never ran this instance and the first time I did the shield drops, I need and every other person greeds, even the sham did, :)
Lv 45 Holly Pally, got to wait a bit to use it tho :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

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Kommentar von Allakhazam

very good shield i have to say and all stats :)

lvl 51 warrior

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is an excellent shield. With all of the stats and adding a +7 stamina enchant, it truly improves your tanking noticeably, and has good blocking and armor to boot. Very good if you can get in the early 50s.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

gud shield thats all i have to say

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ooooo...this and the shield for Mara I am questin for. Maybe I will get a chance to do a run tonight on either or.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this is one awsome shield

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this dropped on my 6th run of ST, we killed eranikus with no wipes. good shield, i think im going to put stam on it

Kommentar von Allakhazam

NICE! level 50 human paladin gona get this and http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=20648 and ill heal for u

ALLIANCE FTW!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Somewhere along the way, the stats on this shield have changed. I have been really lucky and had this shield drop three times on three different characters. When I took my pally and hunter into ST, I'm sure I got a shield with a plus on all stats. My hunter couldn't use it of course, but nobody else in the group seemed to want it and I won the greed roll.

Today the shield dropped for my shammy (along with the helmet - jammy or what?) and it now has +10 stam, +10 int and a mana regen bonus. Which is only perfect for an elemental shaman...

The armour and block stats don't totally suck either. I'm pretty sure the look is unique - and fairly attractive, so it's a pretty desireable shield. Ideal for a Pally too. Rubbish for a warrior, so don't let them Need on it...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got this on my first trip to ST. Guildies were supposed to just be clearing trash mobs and asked me (48 Pally at the time) if I wanted to come along for some xp.

We ended up running the whole instance except for Hakkar (as far as I know) and when we beat this guy with only me and MT (57 Warrior) this dropped.

Warrior and I both rolled need and I won.

Didn't even know the thing existed until it dropped. I get to put it on tonight and I'm stoked.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I guess wars can use it, but if a pally is in the group it should go to them 100% of the time.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i just went to ST with a PUG and we killed this dragon in bout 3 minutes...me 50 warr, there was 60 dru, 52 rogue, 51 priest and another warrior 51, me n the 51 warr rolled, i rolled a 30 something and he rolled a 80 something, he was so happy and he ran all over the place and got killed by a patrol...

Kommentar von Beyondfubar

Risky strategy blizzard, put a little bit of everything on it so no one is truly happy.

Mara shield is better for ele/resto shamans and pallys. Perhaps as a non 2 hand talent spec'd hance sham with crappy luck on staves and fighting mobs that you'd want a shield up for.

Or a down on your luck warrior with especially bad luck on shields, but seriously there is a pattern here, this is the go to shield if you're left with few options. It's weird vanilla itemization run rampant.

My two cents.

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