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Kommentar von 9289

Felheart, Plagueheart, Voidheart...

For being the most evil class in the game warlocks sure do have a lot of 'heart'.

Kommentar von 10359

Does anyone in the beta know the difficulty in getting these items?
Are there an additional cost included, like Arcanite for T3 pieces or do we just turn these in?
Is there any reputation needed for the items?

Also, what level of difficulty will the instances in which these drop be?
Will it be equal to MC/BWL or more like Strat/Scholo/UBRS?

Edited some stuff that looked wrong.

Kommentar von Rafar

Funny According to the List these are a lower "Item level" then the dungeon set 3 stuff...

Kommentar von 4820

Voidheart vs Corruptor Corruption spell damage comparison

Assumptions:
- That the warlock will be using Corruption rank 8 while wearing nothing more than either of these unsocketed sets.
- That the spell damage bonus formula takes both Voidheart Raiment set bonuses into account.
-That the 4 piece Corruptor Raiment set bonus is taken into account after the bonus spell damage for Corruption has been applied.

Corruptor: 1186.92
Voidheart: 1335.4

Kommentar von 9777

The actual value of the 4-piece bonus lies in the fact you can cast one extra Incinerate before reapplying Immolate. This will increase the dps of a Destruction lock as well as lower the mana consumption. That Corruption has a longer duration means more damage for the same mana, but the dps is unchanged.

Both these bonuses seem made for non-specialised/Destro locks, not for Affliction. Strange, because that spec is really raid-friendly.

Kommentar von 14524

This set leaves out Affliction locks. A full aff lock will hardly ever use a fire spell and focuses most of their +dmg on shadow. I see alot of wasted procs happening. = (

Kommentar von 22635

Why the +crit? As an affliction warlock I don't wanna/need crit chance being that the only time i do DD is when I get a nightfall...

I like that we got oure DS 3 warlock set and a DS 3 caster set that's a bit more destruction. Why don't we get different sets like some classes? It looks like Blizz wanted us all to go destro or somthing ^^

More +hit and+dam less +crit (or makes dots crit?)

Kommentar von 22640

Shadow damage spell means any spell that deals shadow damage, and did you realise dots are affected greatly by +damage? for instance, improved corruption makes your corruption unbeliably great, and that +dam can proc off corruption. TBH, when I was full affliction and in instance, I did use corruption+CoS, sometimes UA and Shadowbolt spam because on trashmobs you usually don't have the time for all of your dots. Corruption ticks so much every 3 sec that it made my damage about 1,5-1,7k every second, as with only SB spam it would be >1k per 3 sec.

Pieki, dots cannot crit. I suppose this set is made to use the tactic I use, if in affliction use corruption+CoS and SB spam or if in destruction(am now) bash immolate, CotE or CoS nd SB spam. I suppose this is the key for warlock high damage anyways. Used the tactic while in SM/Ruin spec in MC etc before TBC, and was always the highest damage warlock in raids(even higher than people with slightly, and a bit more better gear!).

Kommentar von 27163

Just because you spec'd affliction doesn't mean that you will only cast dots. On trash dots are a waste, and on bosses if you only cast dots you will have a good 20 second interval where your dots will all be up and ticking but you will have nothing else to do. Really a good afflic lock will mostly shadowbolt on trash and dot-shadowbolt-life tap-drain health-repeat on bosses. That way we can do constant dps without wasting time. Drain life really should be reserved for just after life tapping as its dps isn't as spectacular to that of shadowbolts, shadow burns, soul fires or any of those spells. As an afflic lock you have the advantage of being a low aggro class allowing you to have more free use of shadow bolts than destro locks. IMO you really will want some plus crit to boost the effectiveness of each shadowbolt.

Kommentar von qwerty

Im sorry im still new to the game and i just dont understand what exactly has to be done in order to obtain this gear, can someone explain to me in lay-men's terms what exactly needs to be done.

Kommentar von 35325

Honestly, this set is probably one of the best Outlands sets out to date, for any class - the set bonuses are balanced well for all three trees while allowing for customization through the gem sockets. (For the record, I'm PvP spec, Nightfall/Shadowfury.)

Kommentar von Taelidan

For the residential fashionwhore, should you want the remaining "pieces" of the set when it comes to looks, they are as follows:

Wrist - Bands of Nefarious Deeds (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28515)

Waist - Inferno Waist Cord (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30673)

Feet - Boots of the Infernal Coven (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28670)

Kommentar von Kyeld

even affliction locks need crit... if you're not using shadowbolt between renewing your dots, you're doing something wrong. there's virtually no situation where drain life provides superior output than shadowbolt spam, especially with most guilds only running with 1-2 locks (and thus, you don't have enough debuffs to gain the full effects of imp. drain life), and it should be relied on for healing and mana regen, not as a primary means of dps.

Kommentar von boneLazy

2.1 Warlock Tier 4 Stats:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/epic/voidheart_raiment.jpg

Kommentar von diamondtear

WARNING: As of 2.1.0, 4 piece bonus only affects Corruption, not immolate.

Kommentar von 55001

Please note that since 2.1 went live, the 2 set proc works for all dots and only when the are applied on target, not per tick where they deal dmg. Has been worked on in the patch, certain spells and dots didnt proc it.
Reappling your dots while the proc gets in is really worth it, overall dps increase.

Currently 41/2/18 skilled (+3% curses are worth it but only in raid - 2 firelocks and 4 mages deal about 4000 raid dps of fire/ice dmg. With 3% curse its 120 dps more... its quite alot taken in consideration. Most people forget this talent...)

Kommentar von xgevangelist

Quote: "but 37 crit > 22 spell dmg any day"

don't listen to that man he's an idiot.

Blizzard values crit as a value of 1 per point, and general spell damage as .85

37 crit rating is 1.64% crit rate. _IF_ and only if you have ruin is 1.64% crit a little over 1.64% increase in dps on your spells that _CAN_ crit.

22 spell damage is valued at 18.7 on items and for shadowbolts you get .857 of it on your sb.

Assuming you had enough crit to = the spell damage bonus your still paying more itemization points to get that crit then the spell damage. and spell damage is far more efficient.

do you really think +1.64% crit will give the same or more effect on your spells then 22 spell damage? a 2000 average damage shadowbolt gets the equivalent of a little over 30 spell damage. However, to have 2k average damage shadowbolts you need an already high spell damage.

Kommentar von 24647

How often does the 2 piece bonus proc?

Kommentar von Relaya

In your combat log and SCT the aura is called FlameShadow https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=37379

Kommentar von EvilElpay

Hey, I have got 2 specs for ya.
1) Drain life spec https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/talent=IEMMi0fkVxbZogczIbz This is the dot and don't make coffee, drain life spec. With all of the buffs from affliction talents you can easily out dps and dot then shadowbolt spam warlock in the game. The drain life spec warlocks you have the better your dps is. I confirm that you can drain life for over 1000k with this spec, no joke. All you need is shadow damage and a max of 6% more hit rating, so great for those who are not geared out as well. Plus you save a lot of mana for your healers. I was off tanking with this spec and just for fun was dpsing thru the rocks falling on my in Gruul's. A very unused, uncommon spec, but has the most survivability and the 2nd most dps in the game. The only downfall is that in order to get the most out of it you need more warlock dots. If your guild doesn't have many start recruiting.

2) Shadowbolt spam https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/talent=IZogczIbzZEx0tr0zuhi This spec is simple but requires decent gear to make it worth it's full potential. You want hit, crit, haste, spell damage. Start off putting on 1 debuff curse then just shadowbolt spam. Make sure it is curse of shadow, elements, or weakness depending on what is not up yet. Then just cast shadowbolt constantly. Pluses are highest dps and you don't have to rely on other locks to boost your dps. Downside is that it requires decent gear, you can't heal yourself as well, and hitting 1 button isn't fun.

These are the crazy specs that make mages become warlocks. It's weird seeing a warlock that is specced to never use dots raid with a guy that never uses shadowbolt, but they actually compliment each other greatly. The drain life lock can get malediction instead of improved coa and increase shadow damage by 13%, while the shadowbolt spamming lock will keep a constant improved shadowbolt debuff on the raid target that increases shadow damage by 20%. Since the drain life lock only uses shadowbolt when a nightfall procs, he barely ever consumes the debuff. Then, just add boomkins, elemental shammies, shadow priests. Enjoy before it gets debuffed.

Evilelpay, Medivh, Lord of the Horde.

Kommentar von 6536

Ya, I would like to know how you derived that equation there. One important variable that is missing (or that I don't see at least) is hit rating. Remember, if you have a 5% chance to crit and a 5% chance to hit (ie a 95% chance to miss), then you will crit 100% of the time since both hit and crit occupy the same probability space. However, we can all understand that is would be very poor damage due to the low hit rate.

This is actually incorrect. Hit chance (or rather lack thereof) pushes crit chance down. This is due to the fact that the WoW combat system calculates whether a spell hits or not FIRST and then all other calculations (including crit) are made if and only if it hits.

So if you have 95% chance to miss and 5% chance to crit:

- You will miss (resist) 95% of the time
- You will crit 0.25% of the time (5% of 5%)
- You will hit normally 4.75% of the time (the rest)

The more you know~ *rainbow*

Kommentar von Avalonia

This set seems rather pointless for any affliction warlock. Spell strike and FSW majorly outdo T4 for affliction specced locks in pve. This is still nice for a destruction lock though, so if you have crafted epics imo you should just pass on those tokens. The sad thing is there is very little of any use outside of SSC/The Eye and beyond that actually beats pvp, badge, reputation, and crafted gear for aflliction spec. There are about 4 items from Karazhan and none really from grull's lair (unless you count the sword which isn't that much better than the dagger from Karazhan and actually has worse stats).

Kommentar von 130514

Just out of curiosity, how do you guys think these stack up compared to the spellstrike set? I personally use 2pc voidheart, while a friend uses spellstrike, and I can't discern too much difference as far as damage goes...

Kommentar von 145486

Update: Corrected a calculation mistake.

The proc for SB-spamming Destro-Locks roughly translates as:

Equip: Increases damage done by Shadow spells and effects by 16.

Some maths on the 2-pieces bonus:

I'm calculating a 5-minute battle (-> 300 seconds) with a 5% proc chance (which was mentioned in these comments early on). This is calculated for pure Shadowbolt-spam, so I divide the number by 2.5 (which is the casttime of a Shadowbolt).

300 / 2.5 * 0.05 = 6

We'll have about 6 procs during our 5-minute battle. As this proc lasts 15 seconds (times 6) and a Shadowbolt casts within 2.5s (w/o any Spell Haste), I divide 15s (times 6) by 2.5s so I know how many Shadowbolts actually profit from the buff.

15 * 6 / 2.5 = 36

Now, it's 36 Shadowbolts which are enhanced by these buffs during a 5-minute battle. I multiply this number by 135 to get the overall +dmg the proc provides during this battle.

36 * 135 = 4860

To get a result we can compare with static stats (such as simple +Dmg), I divide this number by 300 (which is the length of the battle in seconds). This gives us the approximated DPS of the Shadowflame-proc.

4860 / 300 = 16.2

To be even more correct, I multiply this number by 0.99 (the hitcap).

16.2 * 0.99 = 16.038

So whenever you plan to exchange your last 2 T4 items for some apparent better items, always think about these "hidden" 16 spell damage.

PS: Whenever you cast faster spells (e.g. 1.5s-casts as an Afflock), this will result in even higher +dmg for the named proc.

Kommentar von 62879

the above post is absolutely correct. Voidheart 2-piece is very powerfull.

90 sec out of 300sec of dps has +135dmg

so divide 300/90 = 3.333

now divide 135/3.33 to get the effective dmg over the entire duration

=~40.5

This 2-piece is probably a bit overpowered for its level. Just about any 2-pieces of T4 are better than any 2 pieces of t5 due to this bonus

Kommentar von FinnrSlayer

Tier 4 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Karazhan - Prince Malchezaar
Gloves Piece - Karazhan - The Curator
Shoulders Piece - Gruul's Lair - High King Maulgar
Leggings Piece - Gruul's Lair - Gruul The Dragonkiller
Chest Piece - Magtheridon's Lair - Magtheridon

______ of The Fallen Champion - Shaman - Rogue - Paladin
______ of The Fallen Defender - Druid - Warrior - Priest
______ of The Fallen Hero - Warlock - Hunter - Mage

Curator/Prince Malchezaar drops 1 of above
High King Maulgar/Gruul/Magtheridon drops 3 of above, totally random

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at aldor/scryers tier in shattrath city

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anybody got a pic of a gnome in T4 or T5 yet? Im sure it looks hilarious...especially the T5 shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

anyone have any idea what the proc rate is on that 2 piece bonus?

Kommentar von Thottbot

this would be tier 4 warlock set.

As far as stats w/o gems or enchants T4 is better in stats and in my oppinion has better bonuses unless u have siphon life from afflic.

Tier 5 is calls corrupter raiment

it has less stats and the bonuses are not as good (in my oppinion) although it is a LOT batter for raiding but for farming/soloing/dungeons(5-man) then T4 is ultimate especially after gems/chants.

although for 10-man through 40-man's this is also good for Dps'ing but T5 will keep u alive longer and help a lot more.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Set items have ruined WOW. weee, all the best people have EXACTLY the same gear. Rather have all world drops.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well, i'll compare this set with the Frozenshadoweave set (in combination with the battlecast set) to compare what is better.

Let start with the base stats:

Tier 4:

Stamina 183
Intellect 157
Spell To Hit Rating 44
Spell Critical Hit Rating 66
Spell Dmg 203

Frozen Shadowweave Set:

Stamina 66
Intellect 44
Spell Damage (Shadow) 179

Battlecast set:

Stamina 85
Intellect 55
Spell Dmg 89

Let's add those 2 above:

151 Stamina
99 Intellect
Spell Dmg 268

and compare with Tier 4:

Tier 4 / Frozen Set / Result:
Sta 183 - 151 = 33
Int 157 - 99 = 58
Hit 44 - 0 = 44
Cri 66 - 0 = 66
Dmg 203 - 268 = -65

As i'll see, that the Tier 4 Set gives lots more Sta/Int, and it also gives Hit and Cri rating, but as an afflicition, i think the last 2 stats (Hit and Cri) are pretty useless for me, as my dot's barely miss.
What i do see, is a huge diffence between +dmg om the sets, althought the Frozen Set gives online Shadow and Frost dmg, i still think 65 spell is a bit much, exspecially as PvE.

Sockets:

Tier 4 / Frozen Set / Result:
Red 2 - 2 = 0
Blue 1 - 5 = -4
Yellow 3 - 3 = 0
Meta 1 - 0 = 1

As u'll can see, the Tier 4 has 4 sockets less then the Frozen Set, what it's a shame, as with the Frozen set, u'll can compare much of the sta/int lost with the tier 4, as with the sockets loss in Tier 4, u'll can't make it up with the lost dmg.

Let's fill in the sockets the best way possible:

Frozen Set:

+12 Sta in the blue slots x 5 =+60 Sta
+8 int the yellow x3 = +24 int
+5 spell dmg and +6 sta in the red = +10 spell and +12 sta

Total:
+72 sta
+24 int
+10 dmg

Tier 4:
+8 spell dmg in the red x2 = +16
+12 spell dmg in the meta = +12
+5 spell dmg and +6 sta in the blue = +5 spell +6 sta
+4 crit and +5 dmg in the yellow x3 = +12 cri and +15 dmg

Total:

+38 dmg
+12 cri
+6 sta

(Just used the blue sockets as comparing, not the epic)

And let's add these number with the stats:

Tier 4/Frozen/Result
Sta 39(+6 socket) -72 (socket) = -39 stamina
Int 58 - 24(socket) = 34 Int
Dmg: 75 (10 socket) -38 (socket) = -37

With this stats, the Tier 4 even has less use now, the only advantage of the set now is the +cri and +hit and some int. The Tier 4 really sucks with Sta now, and still with the dmg.

As last part, let's talk about the set bonusses:

Tier 4:

2: Your shadow damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus shadow damage for 15 sec and your fire damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus fire damage for 15 sec.

Could prove handy in raids, but we also have trinket for this.

4: Increases the duration of your Corruption and Immolate abilities by 3 sec.

Dunno what's blizzards meaning with this? Does the Corruption and Immolate just get 3 sec longer, what mean they deal less dmg over time, or did they also added dmg for the 3 secs? i hope for the warlocks out there. But can't see the use for this...

Frozen Set:

3: Your Frost and Shadow damage spells heal you for 2% of the damage they deal.

Not much healing, but with dots in Raids and PvP real handy, u'll can use more life tap in raids, without using the healers mana.

2: Increases the chance spell pushback and spell interrupt will be resisted by 5%.

Could prove handy in PvP, in raids, it's not very effective.

According to my stats above, i chose The Frozen Shadoweave set and the Battlecast set above Tier 4, As i love the +dmg, and the +sta could prove really handy in pvp. What do you think?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well, being a very happy owner of the Frozen and Spellstrike set, i can think of an upgrade like this (provided you use +9dam gems on red slots and +5dam/whatever on other slots):
- Exchange spellstrike pants with Trial-fire trousers from the opera event in Kara (or any other good enough pants) thus replacing 46+5+5+9=65 damage with 49+5+5+5+5=69 (including socket bonus), gaining a whopping amount of stats and losing a bit of extra casting stats (only worry is the spell hit).
- Exchange Spellstrike Hood with Voidhearth Crown, going from 46+5+5+9=65 damage to 40+14+9=63 damge (provided you take the +14 dam meta gem from Bashir's landing) and getting another whopping amount of stats.

On top of that, your "proc on spell landing" bonus damage goes from 92 to 135. Only real downside i can see is the loss of a lot of spell hit.

All in all i would go for 2 pieces of the set (gauntlets and head), as the 4 pieces bonus is not that good and you would lose the awesome health regeneration from the Frozen set.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does anybody know the chance of the proc?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Chest: Magtheridon - Magtheridon's Lair
Head: Prince Melchezaar - Karazhan
Hands: The Curator - Karazhan
Legs: Gruul the Dragonkiller - Gruul's Lair
Shoulders: High King Maulgar - Gruul's Lair

Kommentar von Thottbot

One thing that you learned people forgot to mention wa that you need to be a shadoweave tailor to get shadoweave stuff. so along with developing the best set you should also mention that for those that have chosen other professions.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Man, this ting is nice and cool, thats new for me.
longer deturation(or how u write it) on Immonolate and Corruption thats good for evry specc.
I like this ting and cant wait to get it!

Kommentar von Thottbot

as noted it depends on what you profesion is as an eng i dont want the crown but other peices will be better not every one is a tailor

Kommentar von Thottbot

the proc rate of the 2 piece set bonus seems reasonably nice, it can proc many times in a nice long boss encounter, whitch i imagine significantly increases your dps for that time, i have the hands and the shoulders on my warlock at the moment, very nice pieces of gear.

Kommentar von Thottbot

was wondering about the 4 peice bonus-does that nerf the amount of damage per tick. right now i think base corruption does 980 damage over 18 seconds, so thats 163 damage per 3 second tick, would this set make it 980 damage over 21 seconds, so 140 damage per tick, or does it keep the same amount of tick damage just makes it tick an extra time before it expires? Forgive me if the numbers are wrong, all i know is that my corruption ticks for about 450 right now =D and that i redot it after about 12 seconds, so i never experience the full time.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There isn't a single warlock set that beats the looks of this one, blizzard can still do it :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

i think shoulders for corruptor or wing effect for malefic is cooler
but i love the black swirl in the back

Kommentar von Thottbot

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3733/wowscrnshot020808214446qg5.jpg
Looks awesome.

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