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Kommentar von Nippur

This character is taken from the movie Pulp Fiction. "The Wolf" was the guy that cleaned the messes that the mobsters made in the film. He dressed in a black suite, white shirt!!

Kommentar von 19640

how do i talk to this guy the guards say talk to winstone but i cant

Kommentar von 55404

ya I am wondering the same thing as Shammy, is this going to be an NPC that will give a rogue quest in another patch or expansion???

Kommentar von jessy142

Ya, guards told me to speak with him, i can't ;p

Kommentar von redandgray

As of 6/07, this is still a dead end. Blizzard has not yet created any more segments for this quest line.

Kommentar von Garrett

After creating a Help Ticket about the fact that interaction with Winstone Wolfe is impossible I had an insightful conversation with a GM about this.

You are no longer AFK.
To : Wait!
To : I am back now, sorry :)
<GM>: Ah you are back.
<GM>: This NPC does not have any quests to give and will not interact with you, the guards are misleading you.
To : Oh well ok then... I will start to quest in other areas I guess
<GM>: Is there anything I can help you with while I am here?
To : No thank you that is all, goodbye.

It seems the GM's/Blizzard know the guards are misleading but I imagine they have more important things to worry about, namely future updates and upcoming expansions.

Hope this sheds light on the situation.

Garrett.

Kommentar von 94606

Nippur is right, the "Pulp Fiction" character played by Harvey Keitel was named Winston Wolf. Nice one Blizzard, I hope the Wolf has some Qs for us in the next expansion or patch.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As far as I can gather this quest line isn't finished. Can't wait though!

Kommentar von Thottbot

There's a LOT more information about this whole issue if you thottbot the Ravenholdt quest - just finished looking through it myself. Here's basically everything we know about Winstone:

-Blizzard can't decide to tell players whether he's broken or not. Seems pretty obvious that he's broken as of 07-05-05.
-The other possibility is that when the guards tell you to talk to Winstone, they're talking about the other Winstone, who lives in SI:7 in Stormwind. He has some other rogue quest (low-level, though, so it probably wasn't Blizzard's intention for this to be the next step).

A bit frustrating, isn't it?

Just as a side note, people claim that once you're friendly with Ravenholdt the prices you get from the vendors downstairs and from Fahrad for training are better than anywhere else. Haven't verified this myself though....

Kommentar von Thottbot

I saved 20 SC per skill trained at level 36, so it is cheaper than my rogue trainer in Orgrimmar. But the difference isnt going to make you rich :-)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well I went and gathered up all the syndicate emblems I needed and got me friendly faction. One of the guards referred me to Winstone Wolfe saying that he needed skilled rogues as me. So I went and tried to talk to him nada... came here and saw everyone else had the same issue.. So determined to know what the heck was going on I contacted a GM.

I got a response from the GM in which they told me that the quest was indeed broken but that "he may need your assistance in the future.".. which in my opinion I took as an obvious hint that they have something planned (they should have finished the quest line before starting it) eager for more info I asked if they had a clue about how far in the future, to which I got the obvious response "Unfortunately I am unable to tell you that.." So patience.. what sucks is that it may be ages before they finish the quest line.. and I don't want to be level 60 before they finish :/

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just got my rep there up with turning in those #&%^ing Emblems. I was refered to Winstone Wolfe just like everyone else. Couldn't get him to talk so I petitioned. I was told that Winstone IS working, that the Quest with him is NOT broken and that it is given to you at a "higher level". The GM wouldn't elaborate on what level but I'm willing to wait a check back occasionally. I'm still seeing no quest markers of any sort at lvl 34.

Kommentar von Thottbot

He does not train you for cheaper. I am honored in Stormwind (human rogue lvl 31) and its cheaper there.

I am friendly with Winstone. The quest is either at higher level or is broken.

Period.

Kommentar von Thottbot

At lvl 40 i checked the prices in SW and the skills were 1g80s and i went to these guys and it was 2g, so not a clue what the point is of doing this quest. doesn't help it being next to the tarren mill either i normally see horde rogues on my way if i got to buy mats for poisons

Kommentar von Thottbot

As of right now (feb. 2006) there are basically two rogue only ravenholdt quests. The first is obtainable around lvl 30 through friendly (i believe) and I cant seem to recall the rewards at the moment. I believe they were good for the amount of work needed. The second is obtainable at lvl 50. I was already friendly at this point so I don't know if you have to be for this. This quest involves going to sunken temple and the rewards are excellent. Check out The Azure. At this point you are also givin the option of a repeatable quest called Junkboxes Needed. You turn in 5 heavy junkboxes for 50 Ravenholdt rep. This means approximately 600 to get to honored and 1200 to get to revered (I am guessing that the repeatable quest is still available to get to revered based on other old posts). I'm currently almost to honored. Based on thottbot posts, no one who has obtained honored or higher has made a post any more recent than three months ago. Also, even if there is no quests obtainable at honored or better now, they have obviously been adding new Ravenholtdt quests over time and the npcs say that you should talk to people in Ravenholdt who have nothing now. Generally people seem to think that blizzard will eventually add an end game epic quest through Ravenholdt. However, no one but me is really crazy enough to work on the rep. I'll try to get back to you if anything of relevance occurs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ya when you say funny do you mean.......... like a guy smiling at you or.......maybe some weirdo thing like i dont know a little excalmation mark where ravenholdt is? im confuzed

Kommentar von Thottbot

I created a topic about this in europe in-game forums and the GM answered:

"The Ravenholdt quest line is not yet completed ;)
Perhaps our development team will expand it in the future! "

Link: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=122032243&sid;=1

Kommentar von Thottbot

So?
I mean so what if you can buy thistle tea recipe and gnomish cloaking device. I just have no idea how being able to buy a thistle tea recipe or a gnomish cloaking device is going to help us talk to the %#$! head winstone. Only post USEFULL information on how we can talk to him in this category!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I asked a GM also and he said that all who ticked on it would be told when the ravenholdt quest chain is finished but he also said he had no idea if it is ever gonna be finished... he assured me there is no secret stuff around the manor and that it made no sense to waste your time on it soo peps ! Give it up!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just tried talking to this guy after all the npc's there told me to see him. Nothing. I contacted a GM and he gave me a line of bull about not giving hints and that the quest line was functioning properly. Thats funny 'cause when I came on Thottbot I saw others who've had the same problem as me for 2 YEARS! I'd definitely say there's a bug.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually, since we are now on patch 2.3 and patch 3.0 seems to come in february, i dont think bliz is ever going to finish this one. It has been more than 2 years since ppl started hoping for the quest to finish. I recommend to give it up for now ppl :-D

Kommentar von Thottbot

it's just a guess, but following the Pulp Fiction angle, was "the wolf" character ever spoken to by anyone else, and if so, has anyone tried quoted those lines in /say near winstone?

if anyone can remember and try i'd love to hear any odd results.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Still nothing and it's January, 30, 2008. I have done everything, /talk, /slap, /fart, /flirt, etc. NOTHING happens! I may contact a GM, but I am not counting on much. The work to get friendly wasn't hard, as I am speced for assassination/subtlety, so I can go undetected well. I turned in the seals, and then was lead to Winstone. No ! above him or a ? to give any clue I have a quest. This is needless to say; frustrating. Did they just forget to finish this area of the game?

SilentVilent
31 Orc rogue

Kommentar von Thottbot

Hey I'm not a big 'clue's n 'puzzles' person, but has anyone looked at the book he's holding? I moused over all the bookshelves and got nothing, but I'm only lvl 29. Also, if you look at the book cover the symbols COULD be and "A" and a "V"...maybe we need to go into Alterac Valley and look around...

Now wouldn't THAT be fun!

Spiritt
Moonrunner Alliance

Kommentar von Thottbot

People! As an earlier post here said, if we're really supposed to talk to this guy, the guards wouldn't just say 'Hey, you should talk to Winstone; he's looking for a thief like you.'

1) They would be specific about which Winstone, through surname or location or both since there seem to be several Winstones.
2) It would be an actual quest in itself.

Also, if you pay much attention to such things, it seems like a quest-giver is usually around the same level you need to be for the quest itself, so if this Wolfe NPC does/will have a quest, it's probably going to be late 40s/early 50s.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Where is this guy? :o

Kommentar von Thottbot

Blizzard if you check this you could make something every rogue would love a whole chain of steath quests with rogue rewards that would help us out. It would be great and it dosnt matter if we cant kill anthing if its just all stealth and pickpocketing and opening locks becouse were rogues. The few who dont like it can do whatever they are currently doing. Please give us fun stealth quests.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There is a post by a VERY smart person in this thread:
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think i got it...
Score 0.67 Vote: by Corvuz, 1.9 years ago
if you notice, there are 6 guards in the house... 3 pairs... Well, i started thinking that it would be very easy if we just went there and talked to him so i started inventing. there's a 50% chance one of them says "You should talk to winstone".

Basically, what i did was, talk to each pair and get the same speak ("you should talk to winstone") all in a row.

After that, i went to winstone, and still, didn't do it... but, i did "/talk" and something funny appeared in the map.

My opinion is that it is a well hidden secret and a very intelegent quest.. =)

I will keep trying
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THIS IS IT!

after you type "/talk" while targeting winstone the guards all start saying you should speak with FAHRAD! I walked over to him and typed /talk and now the guards are saying that the syndacite "is made up of a bunch of hacks - disorganized, unskilled, and lazy"

And after that I'm stuck........

Kommentar von Thottbot

This NPC is An obvious easter egg of Winston Wolf from Pulp Fiction, played by Harvey Keitel.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

thats it one quest here ?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Blizz should finish the Ravenholdt questline!
The NPCs tell you to talk to Winstone but he wont react on anything you do.... can't talk to him, kill him, pickpocket him, stun him, detect traps...nothing!

I hope one day this questline will lead to some kind of epic rogue quest *drools* xD

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wasn't this the name of the guy that helped Jules with the Bonnie Incident in Pulp Fiction?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The single greatest reference in the game! The Wolf from Pulp Fiction the best movie I've ever seen... classic!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Can't talk with that guy. What should I do?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The guards at Ravenholdt tell me to talk to this guy but he doesn't offer any quests. Guess the quest chain is broken.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

you betcha, even <the wolf> is right, i love how blizz copies alot of stuff, kinda makes em unoriginal

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I agree! My husband and I crack up over some of the names of NPCs! Just gets me laughing!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Humm how are u to do these quests if nothing happens? Anyone got this to talk to them?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Well, I went to war with ravenholdt and tried different things to Winstone...nothin.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Having these kinds of things in the game is what makes it great! Unorignal? I haven't seen other games doing this...

The gnome at the zepplin in Trisfal Glades name Hin Denburg for one.

Get a sense of humor for pete's sake and enjoy your game!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

man these quests have been broken since .. let's see .. forever? good job blizz you really make me hate my own class :(

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Annoying and idiotic to have a pointer to go and talk with this guy when we can't.

Fix, please! Or don't let the NPCs send us to him. Grrrr....

Winstone Wolf <Der Wolf>

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