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Kommentar von 47507

iLevel 110, same as the new epics being added to heroic dungeons. I'm not sure which one, though. Does anyone know?

Kommentar von 2955

Yup, new Epic Heroic drop.

Drops from Keli'dan the Breaker in Heroic Blood Furnace.

Dropped for me tonight - and being the only leather wearer (feral Druid) - woo hoo, mine. :3

Kommentar von 6951

Pretty much a purple/black version of Bloodfang.
Dropped from Keli'dan the Breaker in Heroic Blood Furnace, sure enough.

Great tanking item for a druid, as it has the highest agility(39) and agility + stamina(72) on any leather shoulder item that I know of in the game now. The agility gives 2.73% dodge at lvl 70 to a druid.

Kommentar von 55615

noone screen yet

Kommentar von Sonaks

looks like Bloodfang shoulders, but lighter than the ones from Chess event

Kommentar von 45784

These Dropped last night in our heroic BF run, i'm a druid but i passed to the rogue who came for them specifically. Ya they are nice, but i view them as simply a side-grade to shoulderpads of assassination when it comes to tanking as a druid.

Kommentar von 53954

Just took a look at the drop count, and I was surprised to see how low it is currently! (0.8%)

I can see why the drop-rate is low, given the fancy looks and much desired stats, but if you hadn't noticed the going rate (like me) and have been running countless BF Heroics to get them (like me) then you may want to think twice about it and go for something else.

Most likely the Bladed Shoulder Pads of the Merciless (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28755), which feature the same model with a slightly less purple skin.

Kommentar von 49927

The current low drop rate on this item is probably because it was just recently added. It has only been dropped a recorded 27 times because it is new, but the drop rate percentage is calculated out of the overall times the boss was killed. Therefore the 0.8% drop rate is most likely low - to find the true drop rate, you would have to calculate 27 drops out of the number of times Keil'dan has been killed since the item was added to the database.

Edit: Thottbot shows these shoulders as having a 10% drop rate.

Kommentar von 54074

although Shoulderpads of Assassination have more potential with sockets, which i stuck in the epic pvp gems to get some nice dps

and agility being better for the dodge makes them nice shoulders for solo pve which i do mostly.

but the stats 39 agility - 0.95% crit and about 1.95% dodge according to Rating Buster mod

still choose to wear this one just because it's a zomg purple and it seems to be the highest agility shoulders i've seen available outside SSC:

Shoulderpads of the Stranger

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30055

Kommentar von Serathis

So, there is no other part of the recolored T2 set for rogues?
*sad panda*

Kommentar von elfbane

not worth going to bf for as a feral druid

Kommentar von 38428

Could anyone add a comparison of these shoulders vs Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless? (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28755 )
It would be interesting to see how big a difference there is and if there is any point for people with a kara guild to farm these.

Kommentar von 86547

this shoulders is good for subtlety rogue for the talent who give you +15% of your agility

Kommentar von 40632

nice epics shoulders. loot em today. nice stats, and nice art.

Kommentar von 75238

just got them and upgraded from shoulderpads of assassination. losing 16+hit from 2 rigid dawnstones, i just replaced 2 gems from my chest piece with rigids so all in all, in the end i didnt loose any hit. and just lost the chest socket bonus(dodge=)

Kommentar von 88319

got these yesterday night, nice shoulders

Kommentar von Reedyn

For a druid using Merciless shoulders from chess, trading in them for these you will lose/gain following stats

+ 8,7 AP
+0,32% crit
+3 stamina
-2,4% hit
(Socketed with 2x 4hit 4 agi)

It's up to you if you need Hit or Crit really i would choose these shoulders for the looks and hit isn't that valuable since only ~30% of our dps is white damage.

Kommentar von MetalGenocide

This is part of the Bloodfang (Tier 2 Rogue) recoloured set.

Kommentar von 101943

Imo, for a rogue the Asassination shoulders are much better https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27776 it has a bit less AP and crit, but it has 2 yellow sockets, and they can be obtained easily in sethekk halls normal.

Very underpowered item imho.

Kommentar von 160168

dropped last night for my rogue. hunter in group got it

ofc its ALL hunter loot ;)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

These are totally rogue shoulders ppl, an u not see this, agility, attack power, and stamina...sheesh

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped off last boss in BF heroic today, wasnt expecting them but not a bad item :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

These shoulders are great!

There is only one problem with these shoulder's. The problem is that they are good for both dps druids, and rogues. I would even go as far to say that a hunter would roll on them. They are definitely the best pre-teir shoulder's for any of those classes.

Rogues: Great stam + agi on these with alot of AP

Druids (dps): Again stam + agi and alot of AP

Hunters: They lose armor, but who cares hunters aren't supposed to get hit. And as a hunter who cares if we wear leather, it's not like hunters get shields so to get over 5k or 6k armor is pretty difficult. At most hunters lose about 300 armor. 300 armor isn't enough to make a difference. Don't get me wrong a rogue or druid should definitely have priority on these, but if your group is lacking either of those classes then feel free to roll away hunters.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

OMGOMG HUNTER SHOULDERS

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Best pre-tier shoulders for druids!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

dropped on first run for me... i expected more from it... sun-gilded shoulderXYZ is better imo. the AP is same, this one has more stam, but no hit rating on it. and u lose 15 hit rating for 8 stamina. im wearing this one too, but i think sun-gilded still rocks :D

Edited, Oct 1st 2007 2:50pm by Dantso

Kommentar von Allakhazam

After 1 week of searchin a group, 1 hour of searchin more members and 1 wipe on the whole instance i forgot about them.Wanted them so much and infront of the boss was lookin straight for the kill not for the loot.And when they dropped i remembered.Really good shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Drop since 2.1@
Keli'dan the Breaker Blood Furnace (Heroic)

Kommentar von Thottbot

these suck.
they need buff bad.
wastewalker, assasination, and even sun gilded shoulderpads are better( all blue). i mean wtf? they are epic from heroic bf...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Assasins are better but for druids (oh gawd here comes the QQ) it makes a pretty good piece for tanking.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Aside from Teir 4/Gladiator gear, these are the best druid tanking shoulders i've seen. The wastewalker shoulders are second best, but the drop rates and effort to get each seems relatively equal. Bears looking to prepare themselves for Kara/Gruul's would do well to farm BF. Personally, I'd probably pass to a rogue who wanted them, but it seems there are much better options for them atm.

Kommentar von Thottbot

agree prety good for feral druid

Kommentar von Thottbot

rogue btw but passed 2 feral druid

Kommentar von Thottbot

what is so damn bad about this? sure it lacks hit, but it's not like you can't make up for it. the raw stats are great.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually thottbot has it wrong:

Everything is right except the attack power, which is 60 instead of 32

Kommentar von Thottbot

Pls point me in the direction of those legendary blues that are 4 times better than these.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you can do a couple BM runs, pick up the Sun-Gilded Shouldercaps. They are MUCH better than these shoulders. Please buff these, Blizz, they're the only available epic shoulders outside of Kara, and they suck.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got these today for my rogue, bear tank didn't want them (they were pretty epiced out). They were a minor upgrade from my assassination shoulders, and I really only gained about 30 health and .3% to crit. But I do love how they look. I like the stink lines...filthy rogues. :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

is this guy 2000 times easier then last boss heroic ramp b/c iw ant these badly and only have done heroic ramps

Kommentar von Thottbot

I am feral druid

I WILL roll on this item when i see it. End of.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Compared to
Sun-Gilded Shouldercaps https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=58943 These shoulders give you the exact same AP, -15 Hit rating, +.35% crit, and +7 stam. These shoulders will benifit slightly more from Blessing of Kings but in the end, Sun-Gilded Shoulder caps will give you more dps raid wise. If you can find a stam shoulder enchant i'd keep these for pvp as a rogue but otherwise this is a void waiting to happen.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I agree with the comparison, but the Mantle is a way more sexy... :D
I choose my equipment based on stats AND look.
If they are almost the same, i choose the prety one. ;)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Druid Shoulders stop being selfish rogues....

Kommentar von Thottbot

I think its funny how rogues see a leather piece with AP Stam and Agi and automaticly think, "OMG MINE NEED ROLL NEED ROLL OMG OMG OMG!", Druids have every much right to roll on these then rogues.

I agree with "These Shoulders are for rogues AND druids, and if i see them , I WILL roll."

Kommentar von Thottbot

#$%^ ALL THE LEATHER $%^&*!@S! piece droods:D

Kommentar von Thottbot

So are these better than Sun-Glided Shoulders for tanking?

Kommentar von Thottbot

These are said to be on the lowest end of the dps chart for rogues. Druids, *!@#$%^s...be my guest

Kommentar von Thottbot

Actually, you know what, these might be decent for pvp, just not pve, i think these might be a bit better than assas pads, am i right?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Feral druid shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ima 70 rogue and i would not care if a druid rolled on these. In fact i would pass on these shoulders. They are one of the worst shoulders for a rogue to have. Tons of blues out do this piece. Rogues do yourself a favor and pass on these, unless youre rockin green shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

*Cough* Ok whoever thinks these are Better for a rogue than Assasination, you...are...stupid! These are druid tank shoulders, unless you have some greens, dont roll on these, Sun Glided are better, same with Dungeon Set 3 Rogue gear! These are just some funny epics that wow made for Druid tanks, or just people with bad gear! Im a rogue and i wouldnt give up my DSet 3 shoulders for the world over this, for the world!
So if you think these are better for you when you have Sun Glided or Assasination.....just stop playing that class...

Brigna-70 Orc Rogue
Terenas-US

Kommentar von Thottbot

May i add to my comment? Ok! Well i just got these after BF, they give me more crit, so if i put epic Attachment on these, ill like them better, they give me 1% more crit, but i like them because they look cool, but when it comes to kara, im equiping Assasinaiton shoulders.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Rare*

Kommentar von Thottbot

Rogue here, those are druid shoulders. No Hit makes them < assassination and the AP is in fact 34 (which is crap for an epic rogue piece if that's what it was meant for) to whoever was saying its not.

Just because it's purple and leather doesn't mean it's a rogue piece. L2P

Kommentar von Thottbot

I am a feral druid and I think these are some of the best shoulders ive seen in a while so if they drop im gonna want to get them

Kommentar von Thottbot

There is one thing I lack to see with this post, feral druids have the best versatility ingame. I have 2 gear sets on my druid at all time, a tank set and a DPS set, these sholders are great for both pre t4. Due to the buffs blizz made for druid atp it really helps that we can stay on par with rouges. We may lack a few skills that makes a rouge a rouge but I never seen a rouge become a tank in half a second flat. I say that these Shoulders should have equal roll to by feral druid and rouge alike, since they help both just as much.

Then again I did get pissed at a mage out rolling a need on leather dps boots from arca for the reason of DEing them for the shards to sell. Somehow he though replacing green boots on a feral druid with epic dps leather was less of a need than a few gold on him. All in all i guess people want to be greedy and make up excuses on why they should get the gear instead of someone else.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a hunter I feel like such a tool running around shatt with so much epic leather. But these beat my old shoulders and there were no feral droods or rogues around when they dropped, so it's all good :)

Hunters have less of a need for +hit than rogues so all that AP and agility makes this look very attractive.

Kommentar von Thottbot

IMHO...these shoulders are sexy. Yes, the assassination are better, because of the hit rating. However....if you have a pretty decent/high hit rating, and you think these shoulders are sexy sex sex, then by all means rogues.....rcok em.

PS: By decent hit rating i mean around 200ish. With that you'll do fine (pre kara/kara)

Kommentar von Thottbot

there is always the big "what class?" argument with things like these, but generally my belief on it is, rogue or druid can roll on leather if its better than what they are wearing.

my problem with the "what class?" thing, is because last night, in a heroic grp with 2 feral druids (me being one of them), these shoulders dropped, a Hunter (who we had CARRIED thru the whole instance) rolled need and got them. Then said FU NOOB and hearthstoned. Its rare in this game I feel like hauling a nerd out onto the street and kicking him to death, but this was one of those times.

just as i was losing the "only grp with guild or friends" attitude, i find myself back there again.

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