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Kommentar von 6953

Very nice Enhancement shaman pants, maybe too little stam for PvP, doubt a hunter would really want as it lacks Agi.

Kommentar von Niico

These leggings and Wyrmscale Greaves are the best leggings for hunters atm. If you compare them to t3 they are better cause of the sockets.
16 ap, 8 crit rating, 4 int 2 mp5 gems and you got some pretty nice pve/pvp leggings.

Do remember 30 int is equal to 15 AP aprox for hunters if your proper PvE specced (marksmanship)

Kommentar von 18830

Saying these are the best leggings for hunters atm is bull poop.

Tbh these are barely any better than Beast lord leggings (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27874#00Rz).

T4 is far from impossible to get when you are able to get these, and they are way better.

Kommentar von 18830

ok Hauraki.. i never said beast lord was better than Rip-flayers.
I made that pretty clear when i wrote "these are barely any better than".

The thing is that this pants aren't all that good, and i just used beast lord to have something to compare them with.

Kommentar von 15682

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27773 are very strong, and better imo. The added int is nice, but not enough to me to make me wanna switch, re-socket, and farm another cobra armor kit.

Kommentar von zealvurte

Skin is changing in 2.1.2, away from the horrid and overused red Dragon Stalker reskin.

If i'm not mistaken, it is a green reskin of Beast Lord / Desolation.

Kommentar von 60642

The Dragonstalker set "remake"

Helm

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31106 Quest Reward (Teron Gorefiend, I am)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28801 Gruul's Lair (High King Maulgar)

Chest

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28599 Karazhan (Nightbane)

Shoulders

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28589 Karazhan (Opera )

Boots

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30104 Serpenshine Cavern (Lady Vashj)

Legs

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28740 Karazhan (Netherspite)

Gloves

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28519 Karazhan (Maiden of Virtue)

Kommentar von 55524

i direct your attention to https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27430

easier to get, same overall dps. know why these are epic and have a higher iLvl? cause they got more int.

no, these leggings are extremely disappointing for enhancement. i'll take https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28741 instead

Kommentar von orcishincubus

All I have to say... these beat the hell out of the enhancement shaman T4. https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29042
These have the sockets where we can add hit rating...

Kommentar von Raiking

This is from BM-hunters Point of view.

For hunter I'd go for the Midnight Legguards over the Rip-flayer leggings.

Int and mp5 is nice for a hunter ofc, but capping your hit first has priority, which is 142 (9%) for lvl 73 mobs/bosses. Compared +hit, int and mp5 are secondary stats if not less. They probably come in on the third of fourth position of important stats.

There's also 8 more AP on these leggings and this covers the 1 crit rating less (0,05% crit) imo. And again, if you don't have your hit capped yet, hitrating will definetely increase your dps more than critrating.

You could socket up your Rip-flayer leggings with +Hit gems or agi/hit gems, but you would miss out on a lot of AP and Crit by not putting in crit/AP/agi gems in there.

So, if you would have capped your hit and have big lack of mana and mp5, then I'd go for the Rip-flayer leggings, but only then.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Greaves of Desolation > These

Especially in combination with another Desolation item.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Red "Dragonstalker" Set

Helmet:
Maulgars Kriegshelm]Edited, Apr 25th 2007 2:23pm by OrganicGolem

Kommentar von Thottbot

Where do they drop?

Kommentar von Thottbot

got them on our first kill (3rd try ever ^^ ). small upgrade from some 5man instance tho....

Kommentar von Thottbot

Great leggings for an enhancement Shaman, put some crit-rate/strength gems in it and you're set!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Go for the professor plums.

Kommentar von Thottbot

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28173/jägergamaschen-der-maghari is better imo, unless you put all AP gems in it

Kommentar von Thottbot

and why are they hunter only legs? shamans have just as much right to roll on these as a hunter - the reason being, there are no other epic legs decent enough for enhancement shamans other than midnight legguards which give no mp/5 and int

Kommentar von Thottbot

The reason these legs suck for Enhancement Shammys is the same reason why pretty much ALL mail gear sucks for Enhancement Shammys.

Blizz, in their infinite wisdom, decided to slap these things with a metric crap ton of Int and then throw in mp5 on top of that. DPS shammys need str, crit, AP, agil, and hit. . .not intellect or mp5. Especially now that 2.3 is almost out, it is absolutely pointless to have gear with mp5 and intel on it.

So, for instance, I'm currently wearing Mennu's Scaled Legs which drops from SP.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27545/mennus-geschuppte-gamaschen

Since you don't care about the socket bonus on either pair, you throw in +8 Str gems in every slot. Mennu's works out to 158 AEP (attack power equivalency points, check on Tristan's Enhancer program which is GOLDEN for determining how stats translate into dps). Rip Flayers with +8 Str across the board? 160. You also lose 7 Stamina for wearing the epic Rip Flayers over a blue pair that drops from a dungeon. Wow. Way to go Blizz!

Actually, if you have the opportunity, ninja Midnight Legguards from Quag on heroic SP (drop rate is terrible btw, what else is new) or ninja the Skulker's Greaves from your rogue buddies when you down Netherspite. Both pairs are MUCH better than this piece of crap I'm currently stuck with.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30538/mitternachtsbeinschützer

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28741/schleicherschienbeinschützer

Kommentar von Thottbot

I belive they are one of those items that either hunter or shammy can take..

depends what spec are you lol

Kommentar von Thottbot

Graphic is new now they no longer look like T2.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got the leggins as a drop from Netherspite last friday: needless to say I was a very happy hunter. However, I do have to mention the fact that you will lose loads of agility when equipping these, apart from that, they rock :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

70 Hunter-Kaven-Cliche-Lighning's Blade

My first run through Kara, got these, I was only hunter and tehre were no enhance shammys. Listen &*!@#$ed hunters, shammys buff us, heal us, BUFF US...BUFF US...BUFF US! They rez us as well. Respect them, roll for items with them, dont't get pissed when they win, because someon in your guild just got a little better, that's all I can ask for.

P.S. Do get pissed if they take your bow...

Kommentar von Thottbot

I DONT KNOW WHAT ALL THE HOOPLA IS ABOUT!
If these legs drop and there is a Hunter and Enhance Shammie in the raid, than there shouldn't be a problem if they roll it out amongst each other, especaily if they are guildies, no reason to get all bent outta shape and they will eventually drop again.
Kara is meant to be farmed so that guilds can progress into bigger and better raids, it's not like your gonna kill Netherspite once as a guild and than never come back...
Also Shammies as well as Hunters buff the raid, not just Shammies, that True Shot Aura, Hunters Mark, Ferocious Inspiration, Aspect of the Wild (nature) Aspect of the Pack when the raid is running back after a wipe etc. come on u see where im going with this....
Bottom line here is every class has a function and can help the Raid in one way or another and everyone should respect that fact.
Guild train of thought is if my guildie wins, we all win!
I myself as Guild Leader love to see my fellow guildies get geared up and i will and have passed on gear that i could have used (including these legs) just to let them understand that greed is a terrible thing and can ruin the morale of the guild as well as guild progression.

ps: as for the Hunters are all greedy comment, that was just totally ignorant :) shame on you!

Kommentar von Thottbot

to that dude pointing out the hunters buffs to the raid/group.

you forgot to mention the most important of all, Trapping -.- thats the main reason hunters pwn ench shammy's badly. CC ftw

Kommentar von Thottbot

cuz enhance shamans dont with windury and unleashed fury. Learn about a class and spec if your going to try to dis it.

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