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Kommentar von 26745

drops off Shade of Aran, and most hunters will be hiding the graphic as soon as they lose excitement from looting it in the first place. i want this badly. It's not a HUGE upgrade from BL Helm with a working meta socket, but i can socket my other armor the way i want to if i get this and i wont have to satisfy the gem. Plus 30 to each stat... hawt...nice regen too. not bad pve/pvp helm imo.

Kommentar von Trapordie

well =) see if you figure in the 10% atkpwr talent you need to figure in the 45% attk pwr from your int,.

32 agi+54 atk = 86,.+34 from glyph = 120 + the 45% from the int=135 now + the 10% from talent = 148.5

if im wrong please correct me =)

Kommentar von Knoxpwns

For the people arguing if Stalker's Helm of Second Sight is better...

-=Stalker's Helm of Second Sight=-
503 Armor
+31 Agility
+12 Stamina
+8 Intellect
Socket: +8 Agility
Socket: +8 Agility (total of 55 Agiliy w/ Gems)
Socket: +8 Agility
Equip: Increases attack power by 60.
Equip: Restores 4 mana per 5 sec.

-=Steelspine Faceguard=-
659 Armor
+36 Agility
+34 Stamina
+34 Intellect
Equip: Increases attack power by 62.
Equip: Restores 9 mana per 5 sec.

changes in stats from Stalker's Helm to Steelspine

-19 Agiliy
+22 Stamina
+26 Intellect
+2 Attack Power
+5 Mp/5.

Loss of Raw Attack Power is 17.
Loss of crit from Agility is ~.32% (this is taken with 6 agi gems rather then 8, so the loss will be slightly larger with 8 agi gems, but not by much.)

Honestly, 17 AP and a small amount of crit, i think that the 22 Stamina and 26 Intellect is a far better choice.
Allthough this may be different PvP to PvE. the stam is definately nice in PvP, but you may want the small DPS boost for PvE seeing you aren't going to be taking that much damage (in most situations). I guess it's really a matter of preferance or your build.

Kommentar von defektunge

For the people arguing if Stalker's Helm of Second Sight is better...

All comments above the "new stats" comment were arguing about this item as it was before it got buffed in... I think it was 2.1 or so. Pretty much all Karazhan loot was buffed in that patch, and most of the debates and concerns about blue quality items being better are from before that time.

Sadly, Wowhead doesn't keep track of old item stats for that long, so I can't tell what the old stats were, but even with the somewhat low offensive stats on this item, the massive sta and int make it an excellent item nonetheless (commenting as a shaman though, not a hunter).

Kommentar von 116710

is this helm better then S1 helm ?
(gems 18stam 5% stun res and 16 ap, cenarionn head enchant

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Got this and added the +34 AP and +16 HR enchant to it. I love it :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I play a ^&*!@#$ meself, and I can see shammys wanting this too.

Kommentar von Thottbot

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/screenshot=view&3.28671#16714

Theres a screenshot. It looks just like the Might helm.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Stalker's Helm of Second blah blah blah... it sucks compared to this... IF you were to waste your gem spots with 3 +12 stam gems, the loss of intellect is nowhere near worth it. L2play a hunter, Aspect of the Viper + good int and other stats on items = tons of mana which leads to more damage in raids. Currently, I STRUGGLE to use up all my mana on a 10+ minute fight, spamming skills with aspect of the viper/GBoW/JoW all up.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I knew when I clicked on this item, I would see tons of bad %^&*!@# grammar and shaman flaming. This is good for hunters all the way, but I wouldn't roll on it as a shaman if a hunter needed it. Why? I can probably find something with strength. Hunters need agility, stamina, and intellect with some attack power thrown in. Shamans needs all that, AND strength. Unless you could get major strength from another piece of equipped gear, like bracers, just give it to the hunter.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Great for my hunter...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Seriously L2P, don't come here with some BS about "oh enhance shammys should get some strength" because there isn't a piece(mail) with str on anymore, as blizz wants all speccs to be viable, thus mixing the gear up with AP for hunters and shamans to use. Secondly , shamans ain't stealing mail loot, if u are in a kara guild u know that no 1s "stealing" loot from any1... further enhancing my impression that u are very far away from this piece. And Stalker's Helmet of Second sight or the helm of desolation is nearly just as good.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok to the guy who said hunters dont need stamina cos we have tanks........we tank the shaman add in the first encounter in gruul's lair (at least in my guild) and also us having more stam = being alive longer in raids and so more DPS, and also makes healers life easier.
secondly, "hunters are borderline useless" societyskates. haha. In every raid so far our hunters have out DPS'd all the rogues, all rogues are now are kick bots.
and finaly, its good for both so both classes have the right to bid on it =/ get over it and stop being greedy.

Kommentar von Thottbot

as if the agil n stam on this wasnt insane e nuff now they added the 31 intel makes it the #$%^ for hunters n enhance shammys till ur t4

Kommentar von Thottbot

Thanks Axel, atleast you are able to see that this helm is really not that great compared to Stalkers's Helmet of Second Sight. I also agree when people say that this is Enhancement shammy gear, cause it really is... (I'm playing Hunter myself)...

I Don't agree with you that Rogue's are kick bots, and I really don't agree with anyone saying that any other class is just some useless class...
If you are going to compare the classes you need to compare people that got about the same skills to. And if you do that, you will find out that all the dps's classes are able to do about the same dmg.

It's not about what class you play, it's about how you play it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm an Enhancement Shaman, and lots of people don't seem to understand that alot of Enhancement shaman DPS is based on their Enchanement procs, so critting/windfury etc. If they're lucky and windfury etc proc/crit alot then they put out some insane damage. If not then they're rather mediocre.

AKA The Luck Class imo.

Btw shamans don't go DPS often cause their damage is very inconsistent.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Im a survival hunter so my main stat is agi if a shaman whos main stat is strength rolled on this over me id be pissed. so far the highest agi helm ive seen but ill keep looking

Kommentar von Thottbot

I play both a 70 shaman and 70 hunter, and honestly it's great for both. Like many of the shamans said, go look at the karazhan or most raid loot for that matter. The only things you'll find with + to strength are plate DPS armor and melee weapons, that are meant for plate DPS/Shamans, which are few.

Now let's look at the stats, and see why shamans really don't need it (That would be sarcasm).

+36 Agi
+34 Sta
+34 Int

Equip: Increases attack power by 62
Equip: Restores 9 mana per 5 sec.

Obviously the attack power is good for both shamans and hunters, that's settled. The agility may affect a hunter's Ranged Attack Power, armor, and crit chance, but the agility also affects a shaman's crit chance tremendously, and gives them armor. They take melee blows from cleaving bosses, NOT hunters. The stamina is important for both classes, to be able to take both physical and magical damage more effectively. Intellect is important for both, as well as Mp5 to maximize the DPS.

Both shamans and hunters have equal rights to this item, and although my hunter is my main, I can easily see any enhancement shaman wanting this item. Many of the complaints are probably the source of a loss of this item to the other class, which is just a poor attitude.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well i have a hunter and no shaman and i beleive that shamans can roll for this item.And yes enh shammys can outdps any other class but in this case they will surely die all the time by drawing aggro from the tank.Shamans cant find many other items like that one in kz so as i hunter i wouldnt have a problem if a shammy won it against me.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If a shammy had an aggro wipe it would stand up w/ the best of rogues. But since they don't they have to stop hitting once in a while. Also, having a 70 hunter myself, I would pass this to the enhancement shammy in my kara group anyday...but if he wasnt there it would be alllll mine! I'm sorta a glass cannon so i could use some stam lol

Kommentar von Thottbot

Agility = crit and the ap on this is l33t... We've got no hunters in our "Hardcore Team" and im the only mail wearer to take the stuff (go me)

- Happy shammy using a crazy Headpiece.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got this tonight in Kara. I looks pretty freakin awesome

Kommentar von Thottbot

Personally, i believe that if there is a Marksmanship Hunter in the group vs an Enhancement shammy, it should go to the hunter. And there IS the Big Bad Wolf Helm, which, in some cases could help shammies with their Earth Shocks after using Stormstrike. Just my opinion on the matter though, raiding groups with unters and shammies should determine it for themselves, perhaps by using DKP?

Kommentar von Thottbot

wow do you see the goddamn mail drops in raids? there are three kinds:ones with agil and AP(dps), ones with + healing, and ones with + spell dmg. now if im not mistaken there aret any helms(mail in that instnace) that drop except the shaman tiers that have strenth. so if an enhancement shaman wants a headpiece(or any mail) he/she cant get any of the +healing or +spelldmg. so think about it next time you say its only for !@#$%^&s. sure there are helms with str but they arent as comon as the agil,AP ones that ive seen around alot

Kommentar von Thottbot

this dropped for my grp tonight and even though i am resto i am collecting a set of enhance gear in case i decide to respec and since i was the only one there who could use it i got it dkp free.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have an enh shammy and a hunter

The big reason this isn't "great" for a enh shammy is because int and mp5 are basically wasted stats. Hunters benefit a LOT more from int and mp5 because they are constantly spamming steady shot and stings thus mana is a huge part of their dps.

Enh shammies on the other hand can simply auto attack + WF and get 70% of their dps, storm strike will add another 15% and it isn't very mana intensive. Shocks make up some 10-15% of dps and are the hardest on mana, but shamanistic rage + potting is almost always enough to keep up your full dps without any int or mp5.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I've got a hunter, I once lvled a shammny to lvl 2...In a single day! I love this helm. shammys should too. I hate being called a #$%^&*! because a bunch of twelve year old hunters run around claiming HUNTER LEWT! Shammies, plz roll on this, I'll roll against you, and whoever wins, my guild will be that much better.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I saw this thing in saw once.

Kommentar von Thottbot

hehe its a dog collar :P

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this piece along with the Saberclaw Talisman my second time seeing Shade of Aran. I have the Season 1 helm and Surestrike Goggles in my bank but I prefer this thing because of the leet atk power and intellect. Well that used to be the case..I was Marksman when I got this helm now I'm Survival. I still use the helm because the agility and the intellect. (Hoping to get my Tier 4 helm soon) Personally this is a great item for both hunters and enhancement shamans. I do believe that because of the large amount of intellect on it it would benefit a hunter (specifically Marksman) more because hunters have issues with mana and enhancement shamans dont really have that issue. Still its a mail headpiece dedicated to melee dps classes: Hunters and Enhancement Shamans who want this should roll on it. Don't really see why everyone is arguing oh this is hunter item and shamans are stealing our loot. Its not just hunter loot. This is the reason why a lot of classes don't like us: because a large amount of hunters try to tag everything as hunter loot. Like I'd pick up a leather piece of gear if it had enough agility on it (since I'm a Surv Hunter) but I'd never roll before a rogue or feral druid (feral druids have a fairly different set of gear than rogues tho)on a piece of a leather. Point is: There is no "hunter gear" in my opinion other than Tier sets, dungeon sets, the Leggings of Beast Mastery and PvP gear. There is gear that would benefit us yes but to call this helm a hunter helm implies only a hunter should get it which just isnt right. L2consider others' needs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

How does this compare to Maulgar's Warhelm?

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