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Kommentar von AkeonStar

21 RAP, 53 Haste rating -57stam upgrade from (halberd of desolation) https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=32248

Dunno, a bit more RAP, some haste, but you loss about 570HP. Upgrade? maybe. keep Desolation handy for those certain fights dps gets knocked around abit.

Kommentar von 129139

Shivering Felspine might be used over the Halberd of Desolation if the hunter wielding it has Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury, because the haste would be a great addition to this bow.
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Kommentar von Rizzu

The biggest downfall about this in comparison to the Halberd of Desolation is the hit loss, however due to the recent addition to +hit rating on the T6 Belt, Boots and Bracets. The halberd of desolation could be swapped out without too many concerns.

Kommentar von boods

if you put a Glinting Pyrestone ( https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=32220 ) in it then i think, for those fights where HP isnt a neccessety, this could be better than HoD =]

i know i'd pick it up, but im a haste-addict =]

EDIT: People seem to be forgetting it has a Socket aswell =]

Kommentar von 21758

The whole discussion in this item is about if it's an upgrade of https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=32248 or not, for hunters. Guys, guys, it has stats and all but other classes can also use it. Not much of a big upgrade for hunters? Don't worry, us warriors and retadins will appreciate the damage boost on it.

Kommentar von 26010

Just dropped from Kalecgos trash (live)

edit: ok another one just dropped.. thats 2 polearms from kalec trash.

Kommentar von 35800

The badgebow (Crossbow of relentless Strikes) that every BM hunter worth his/her salt will be using up to the legendary requires about this much haste rating to end up at "wolfslayer speed".

Having all the haste on one weapon is a nice option as it frees up more slots for set items and thus boni like the very powerful 4-set tier 6 bonus.

A bit better and 150 badges cheaper than the 53 haste rating badge axe that will complement the badgebow for most hunters.

Kommentar von 19793

For a blood elf pally you're looking at the second best dps weapon in the game. Depending on your gear it is only JUST behind Apolyon the soul renderer in dps. Huge weapon upgrade. (with good bt hyjal gear its about a 41dps upgrade on Cataclysms edge)

Kommentar von 142848

With the haste factored in, the weapon speed drops to 3.38, making this weapon's final dps 145.4 - an excellent upgrade over cat's edge.

Kommentar von 139657

Arguably the best Polearm in the game to date in terms of stats.

Kommentar von 44913

Average damage:
(590 + 393) / 2 = 491.5

With the 3.36% Haste, the swing speed is down to 3.3824 seconds so this gives us a new DPS of:
491.5 / 3.3824 = 145.311022

Pretty incredible weapon.

Kommentar von 83251

This is the best Blood Elf Retribution Paladin weapon for now!

Kommentar von 100627

I see no reason why Mortal strike warriors wouldn't get this too. Looks pretty intense imo.

Kommentar von 66287

This appears to be the best weapon for a hunter after you've gotten https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=33492 .
With the added agility, it can't be matched for a SV hunter, and with the HAEP equation, it ends up being the best overall weapon in the game for a hunter.

You lose a lot of stamina from Trollbane, however the increase in Agility is well worth it. If you put +8 Agi gems in Trollbane and this, you end up with:

+6 Agi
+42 RAP
-58 Stam (but at this level, stamina shouldn't be a concern for a PvE hunter).

I can't find another item in the game that can beat Trollbane for Agility and Attack Power. I'd rate this as the #1 hunter weapon in the game.

Edit: I forgot to mention Haste. This has haste, while Trollbane has none. So long as you don't clip your auto shots, this is still one of the best hunter weapons in the game.

Kommentar von 86999

If you consider that in the next patch the delay needed for autoshot to shoot after a steady shot will be 0.015 second instead of 0.5 second so this weapon would be one of the best for hunters in the next patch since you will want to stack haste as a hunter. Furthmore, this makes a pretty good retadin weapon, as the weapon is fed up with bunch of agility for crit and haste.

One of the best weapon in the game in my opinion. Easy to farm somehow if you do the second sunwell pull over and over again.

Kommentar von catchmeifucan

Just got this on my belf pala, I love it!. Got about 160 haste and working on boosting it even further. A bit high weap speed but still #2 best belf weap in the game.

Kommentar von 194539

BEST WEAPON TH FOR HUNTER it gives 52 aggi wich is good dodge atk power and crit. I t givest and heavy attack power and good haste rating-with the socket you can add 7 agi 5 sta and its orange socket so you take the socket bonus

Kommentar von kauski

if you get this and a bow with 3.00 speed, as bm hunter you will have 2.09 speed wich is best for 3:2 rotation :)

Kommentar von 93191

When I look at this weapon. I see a cool name, a decent amount of agility and attack power. What I don't see is all these mathematical thingies you talk about. To be honest, I find those mathematical operations, quite unnecessary.

Kommentar von Chaserbl

not for hunters only
retri palas can make good use of this
this weapon is really good
but https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=34247 is harder to get....much harder
so Shivering Felspine FTW for any dps class
I would rather give it to warrior/retri pala then hunter

Kommentar von 124740

I have a question would this be better for a blood elf retadin or a hunter?
The reason i ask this now is because i was farming sunwell trash last night and this happened to drop i was using gorehowl with a crusader enchant on it and my GM told hunters to roll he wouldn't even let me roll on the item.
I don't like to take my personal grievinces about my guild here but i find it bull $%^& what happened and this will make me hate the hunter class.
The hunter was using a Vengeful Gladiators Waraxe(you know the hunter one),and i still wasn't allowed to roll on the item.
Well anyway besides my problem with my GM ill talk to him later what do you all think this weapon would be better for?

Kommentar von 107059

My guess is he saw your crusader enchant and decided to give it to the hunter with proper enchants.

Kommentar von Ingolfur

(but at this level, stamina shouldn't be a concern for a PvE hunter)

... Sunwell Plateau is a T6 raid instance, and most if not all (Kaz'rogal, Azgalor, Supremus, Shade of Akama are fights that may involve some random damage that may be done to you.).
58 stam = 580 HP, which is alot!
By you stating that stamina isn't a stat a PvE hunter should be concerned about, I sincerely doubt you have done any.
So please do check your facts before posting something.

Kommentar von 398347

Well... i`m not kidding but... i used this weapon as a dps warrior on my server and i was one of the better dps`s back there (except for vip etc.) it's a really good weapon, only lose to apolyon( on a TBC esxpansion of course).

Kommentar von 909235

Looks like a sword if you ask me.

Kommentar von Terakahn

My only qualm is that the polearm keeps sticking through my cloak =p

Kommentar von Hakunamatata

Should this drop, treasure it always, for it is the only model of its kind, and whilst the Schmerzenssäge des brutalen Gladiators might be of the same shape, it lacks the Felspine's sheer magnificence.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Paladin weapon

Kommentar von Allakhazam

im fed up of ppl comin in an sayin "this is a ret pally weap" or "this is a pally weap" OMG ITS A HIGH DAMAGE LOW SPEED WEAP! its nice for ppl other than jus fricken pallys, dont presume say an arms specced warriors alredy gonna have a better weap if they dont have something like the epic 2h from KJ this is beautiful for em. nice for hunters too if they dont have better. i am really SICK and TIRED of hearing "this is a pally weap" tho. its driving me nuts. tbh unless it says class: paladin u can cram it from now on, K? thx bai -.-

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where do I get this weapon?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This DOES NOT drop from Felmyst. It drops from trash. Had one drop last night.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I almost feel dirty for saying it but this is an awesome hunter weapon.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Best in-game for hunter, any spec.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got our second drop of this tonight from the trash pack of 5-6 blood elves just before brutallus.

After missing the 1st drop of this on the wednesday due to my account expiring (a pala won on a roll) I was very pleased to see it drop again so soon :)

Glad to be part of a sensible guild.... as soon as this dropped there was no arguing/debate over who should get it. All I heard was "Grats Amaryliss". The fact our 2 dps warriors have 1 or both warglaives kind of rule them out of going after this when it's clearly so good for a hunter.

To round of a good night we killed Brutallus about 30 mins later. He was on 2% at the enrage and then started 1 shotting everyone but we managed to finish him off.... had about 3 dps left at the end (me being 1 of them) and most of the healers.

Yes I know half this is off topic :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

I JUST GOT IT 2 DAYS AGO, IT DROPS FROM TRASH MOBS AND IT OWNS

Kommentar von Thottbot

i saw a retadin with it the other day and then i saw a hunter the day after lol this thing must have an insane drop rate...

Kommentar von Thottbot

OK im sorry....this goes to hunters first no matter what. After that, a warrior and pally can roll because it does have hardcore DPS and can pwn in melee.

Kommentar von Thottbot

^&*! you guys are so dumb!

This is a MAGE weapon all the way no joke

Kommentar von Thottbot

Best hunter weapon in game atm.

But why do i have a srange feeling when i look at the stats? Damn, what's the heck's wrong with its damage? 140.4 DPS for hunter who doesn't do melee?

How about other classes and the raid utility of this baby? Let's take an example of retribution pally with BoK and Divine strength talents with Cataclism's Edge and compare it with Shivering Felspine in terms of pure DPS contribution from stats (i took an example of one of the classic weapons for retribution. it has the same speed too, so it's easier to compare):

Cataclism's Edge
138 DPS
75 str
+10% from Divine strength
+10% from BoK
means +21% str combined
means 90.75 str, let's say 91
91 str=182 ap
14 ap=1 DPS
182/14=13
138+13=151
151 DPS from Cataclism's Edge. 335 armor ignore is useless against heavy armored targets and have limited contribution unless it's stacked with other pieces of gear and a warrior is keeping stacked sunder armor against a cloth wearer.

Shivering Felspine:
140.4 DPS
52 agi
53 haste
120 ap
yellow socket bonus: 5 ap
let's say: Inscribed Pyrestone with 5 str and 5 crit (6 str with talents=12 ap)
total ap: 120+5+12=137
137/14=9.78 let's say 9.8
140.4+9.8=150.2
150.2 DPS is 0.8 less than Cataclism Edge, BUT!
Crit: Pallys need 35 agi for 1% crit at lvl 70, means 52/35=1.48 % crit +5/22.1 from gem=1.7% crit (the same as Torch of the damned)
Haste: 53 haste rating. Well about haste i'm not really sure. Different sourses give me different info about speed and dps modifications. It's either 5% dps increase or 3.2% dps increase. So just pick the one that you judge correct. Anyway, it's either 157.7 or 155 DPS.

Now what was that? Is this weapon "hunter only"?
Every1 see agility, haste and ap on any sword or polearm and scream "HUNTER WEAPON!". Think again.
Best hunter weapon? Yes! But does the hunter have the priority to take this weapon first? My opinion, it's THE best retro pally weapon as well. Good thing this weapon drops from trash mobs, so every1 could get it (not only hunters).

And couple of last things.
I analysed this weapon from RAID DPS point of view, where sta doesn't have much importance for dps classes (except warlocks who life tap to replenish their mana).
Personally, i'll leave this weapon to hunter if he/she doesn't have Hallberd of Desolation, if hunter has it, than i'll roll without hesitation.
For PvP the situation it's a bit different.
I also analysed it from retribution paladin's point of view only. Would be great if some1 could do the math for warriors and hunters, cause the stats and weapon type contribution is different for those classes. I could do it, but i'm already too tired to type.

EDIT: i made a little mistake with crit calculations. Actually it's 25 agi per 1% crit for pally, so the actual crit is 52/25=2.08%. With BoK its 57/25=2.28%. And a little sweet bonus of dodge. It's the same agility per 1% of dodge.

Kommentar von Thottbot

BTW we took a night off from BT to check out the Sunwell since we didnt have the group for bloodboil. This dropped off the first Arcane Protector thing. I got lucky over the other hunter and now its mine.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ever hear of Sunwell trash farming group? google it.

You dont need to be in t6 to farm this *!@#.
All you need it is minimum 5 mages, 1-2 good t4-t5 tank, good aoe healers.
DPS doesnt really matter. You can do this with 12-15 ppl.

Have a hunter MD the 1st pack AVOIDING the Sunblade Protector. (The protector cast chain lightning non stop for 4k, impossible to take down in a small raid)
Sheep all targets and except 1 (healer) and burn it 1 by 1 while keeping the rest sheeped. Loot it.
Proceed with 2nd pack. Repeat the same thing and loot it.

Run out, disband raid, switch another raid leader and reform raid.
Rinse and repeat.

My server does this Pug all the time to farm new leet patterns, epics, sunmotes and gems.
Ya. Shivering Felspine drops like candy too. In fact, it drop twice in one run last 2 weeks ago.

Its not that hard.

Note: Its important to kill the 2nd pack coz it contains a different variety of mobs including Archmage.
The Archmage likes to drops stuff from what i have observed.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is the top DPS weapon for hunters by far (www.maxdps.com) 99.78 dps on this compared to 67.74 halberd of desolation (BT) and 57 on vengeful waraxe - to say this isn't a hunter weapon makes you a complete fool, it is their very best weapon - also, I play a priest by the way, so I really don't care who gets this in the end

Kommentar von Thottbot

why is it that people always fight ovewr who should get weapons here i mean its not like you win something if you prove your point. if you have this weapon post what you like about but stop all the fighting over who deserves this weapon!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok, i know both the arguments by heart, "ZOMG HUNTER", or "ZOMG RETADIN", but honestly.... this IS for hunters
I play a ret pally and i got no problem with handing this to a hunter, they need the agi more, retadins need str more. Priority for this goes to hunts.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yup, hunter all the way, those retadins and arms warrs who need this over a hunter, you got plenty of other weps way better 4 ur class, this is arguably the best hunter non-ranged wep in game. my 2cents. 2 every1 who gets it enjoy i play a hunter and i love it.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Rawr spreadsheet lists this as the second best weapon in the game for Ret Paladins. It's pointless to get into an argument though over who should get this first. Odds are that you'll see quite a few drop over time anyway and the point will become moot.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Check out this quest https://www.wowhead.com/cata/quest=9710/der-blutgehärtete-ranseur . Its the last part of the chain for the BE palys thats reward is a polearm. If youve ever done it, its a pain in the ass, but it leads me to believe that polearms are most definently a ret paly weapon. This weapon is really good if you dont care about how much hp you have, ie. you arent a noob and you wont pull agro dpsing. I personally believe the halabard of destruction dropped by the high warlord in BT, cataclysm's edge dropped from archimonde in hyjal, or the soul reaver dropped by teron gorefiend in BT are all better choices for a paladin. As posts above said, pug raids can kill the trash in the sunwell, which in the end might mean this is the easiest of the four to get.

Kommentar von Thottbot

>_> as much as it is a hunter weapon other class has the right to roll for it too if they feel the need for it and if u say a class or spec sucks maybe its because u dunno how do use it right and from ur childish tantrum u resort too call this class/spec for noobs

Kommentar von Thottbot

This is the single best weapon in the game for a hunter class and will be used possibly all the way up to level 80. A hunter will not need to change this weapon upon respeccing to other talent trees. Having said all above, to a hunter this weapon is worth more than it is to other classes. Although pallys and warrior can use it as well; I would rather give this to a hunter; it means the world to them. To ninja this from a hunter is as bad as taking milk from an infant; when you can eat everything else. A bit of an exaggeration but you get the point. Happy Trash Farming!

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