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Kommentar von 31085

Such a beautiful shield...

34 Stamina on it per default. You could add a Solid Star of Elune (+12 Stamina) on it, or go for an Enduring Talasite (+4 Defense Rating and +6 Stamina).
In the first case you'd get a total Stamina (with +18 Stamina enchant) of 64. With the Talasite, you'd end up with 58 Stamina as well as 22 Defense Rating in total instead.

Personal taste I guess, I'd go for the Solid Star anyday.

Kommentar von 40071

Well seeing as how you can't parry or dodge spell casts.. I don't entirely see the point on working with parry or dodge since once you hit 25% block or above you become nigh invincible,(with shield block) if the situation calls for it. That being said stamina plays a huge roll in alot of the new encounters where mobs hit for 3-6k in heroics and bosses like King Maulgar hit even harder. Sure its nice to dodge a move but if you don't and you get two shot because you lack stamina...

I have 12 solid stars (so far) in my tank set, I wouldn't trade them for anything.

Kommentar von birrd

Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32045) now gives this shield a run for its money. It's the arena shield from season two.

The Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall gives the following stats compared to the Aldori shield:

+448 Armor
+15 Block Value
+ 31 Resilience Rating

- 3 Stamina (assuming Solid Star of Elune in socket)
- 21 Defense Rating
- 15 Hit Rating

Considering that in end-game raiding the major stats are Stamina, Armor and Block Value I think the new Gladiator Shield Wall wins out even though you give up 3 stamina. The Defense, Resilience and Hit aren't as big of a deal for serious encounters. The Aldori Shield would still probably be nicer for when you want additional threat and don't need the extra mitigation.

Kommentar von 45682

Best Pre-Illidan shield of the game, arguably better than the S2 one which is for PvP tanks.
Reslience is the worst stat ever for tanks if you have >490 Defense.

Kommentar von 46402

Yes as Msunreliable said the shield is a match to the Justicar (Teir 5 Paladin Set) and with it has a higher stat contribution, I know this comment will get Purged but it's for you Roleplayer's out there.

Good Luck !

Kommentar von fabio

You might not have noticed, but this shield matches the T4 paladin set perfectly. I play a prot pally and got it this week, and it looks awesome!

Kommentar von 122493

Been Farming Gruul's Lair for over 3 months now and it still hasn't dropped for me. The Shield of Impenetrable of Darkness has also not dropped for me so I'm stuck using the Azure-Shield of Coldarra which is totally fugly. I'm hoping it drops soon if not I have to stick with my current shield and wait for Bulwark of the Amani Empire off Jan'alai which my guild is getting to.

Kommentar von Auroch

Got this shield recently and was a huge upgrade from https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29266. I gemmed it with a https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32200, which cost about 350G on my server. Consider some other gems like https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30590 or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30566.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

pic pls

Kommentar von Allakhazam

we have killed him 17 times until now and no one time have he dropped the shield.
so i am starting to thing that the shield is taken off the loot table.

well now this post got edited today.
its the 22nd time we killed gruul today.
and not yet have it droped.

Edited, Nov 4th 2007 5:11pm by Slakt

Kommentar von Allakhazam

AHOj vsem ja jsem jára z cech!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

/flex - ready for TK now.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

No longer 3rd best tanking shield, now 4th behind Bluwark of the Amani Empire from the dragonhawk boss of ZA.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow, that shield is even better than the Azure one at Shattrath!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Hmm, curious where it comes from, my guess would be somewhere in Serpentshrine Cavern.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where does it drop?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got it off Gruul last week.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Warrior Shield

Kommentar von Allakhazam

ja jsem jara a kdo je vic?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Dropped tonight, and my pally got it thanks to an awesome guildie who passed.

Shields are in fact annoying to get :|

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Gonne get this shield for me Tankadin =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

crazy ^&*!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

just had this drop off gruul
pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/angrybum/gruulshield.jpg

Edited, Mar 4th 2007 10:11pm by angrybum

Kommentar von Allakhazam

:O sweet shield! I am soo getting this of my tankadin =)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

nice :D

Kommentar von Thottbot

...beats Shield of Impenetrable Darkness, another lvl70 epic shield wich just where added to wow..

Kommentar von Thottbot

Drops from Gruul.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Besides the friggin' excellent stats, this is the best-looking shield in the game. The pictures don't do it justice.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got this shield today from Gruul. It is easily the coolest looking shield I have ever seen. The armor and stamina are much better than the Heroic or Nightbane shield. the +hit is a very welcome stat.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Stats are wonderful! And ost of all....it looks amazing! I just wish they put this much work into the actual armor stets lol. But seriously, with this and the crystalforge set....you will look pretty cool....I mean, all those crystals flyin' around would look pretty hot. XD

~M_D~ Tankadin here I come

Kommentar von Thottbot

buffed in the upcoming patch

new stats:
5279 armor
39 sta
def rating 19
hit rating 15

Kommentar von Thottbot

A shield with hit rating....thats just almost too good to be true. Hit rating is hard enough to get without sacrificing other stats and so far the best acquirrable hit rating is from Wepaons: Honor's Call, King's Defender, Fireguard/Blazeguard/Blazefury, etc. Though you can acquire some with talents it is by far the hardest stat to acquire and thus stack. It's even more important for warriors since their threat is based on how often they can land a hit on the boss/mob, opposed to tankadins who generate threat primarily from holy dmg (not based on target's defense/armor).

The only better shield I have seen yet comes from Illidan....this is definitely a keeper :P

Samsonscott
Malygos

Kommentar von Thottbot

Funny. The zone that drops the most beautiful shield in game drops the most ugliest weapon in game the Axe of the Gronn Lords aka poo on a stick.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Third best shield in game acquired from raiding

2nd: Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart
1st: Bulwark of Azzinoth

But this shield looks the best, imo.

Kommentar von Thottbot

most tanks should have coldarra by the time you've cleared gruul enough times to get this to drop. that being said, the best aspect over coldarra is the 600 armor!

close second is the +hit.

but a big minus for the loss of SBV which = large shield slam = more aggro.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Bloody thing never drops. NEVER! >_< So many kills not a single shield.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Funnyly enough, if you add an +12 stam gem and a +18 block value enchant instead of a 18 stam enchant, you end up with EXACTLY the same stam and block value than the shield of Impenatrable darkness with a +18 stam enchant, that is : +51 stam and +155 block value.

So the difference between both shield eventually boils down to :
+407 armor (447 with toughness talent)
+15 hit rating (1% at level 70)
-1 defense rating.

Now, its up to each player if they want to trade off 12 extra stam against +18 block value

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just got it. My 2nd time MTing Gruul.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/spguitar/aldori.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

All around a good shield... As stated before its the 3rd best raid boss dropped shield. But the only down side i noticed was it was missing the Shield Block Rating, which means as also stated before you either get the Shield block rating enchant or the 18 stamina enchant. All in all a good shield my Prot Warrior got it after 4 Gruul downs.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This shield screams to the progression geared tank. Has a nice base stamina that should be increased by 30 with a gem and enchant, and that hit rating is a nice addition to basically the best shield till T6 content.

All good tanks should have multiple pieces for different situations. If your a tank that plans on Main Tanking for your guild and doing progression boss kills, your main goal over everything else (after capping defense of course) is building up the highest "efficient health" you can. This means stacking stamina and armor.
Avoidances are nice and you shouldn't gimp them by any means but, being able to take massive amounts of damage through silences and being able to stay alive when bosses enrage is how you begin to get bosses down. Stamina and Armor are for sure, avoidances are not.

Shield block value comes in after stamina and armor.
Shield block rating in theory is useless since you get 75% chance to block from the ability Shield Block and therefore should prefer parry and maybe dodge. This is assuming you use improved thunder clap and have only 1 mob/boss hitting you.

In my personal opinion stats for progression main tanking go in this order of importance: Stamina, Armory, Agility, Block Value Parry, Dodge, Block Rating, Expertise, Hit Rating, Strength.

For "Off Tanking" or tanking multiple mobs, I would go for a higher tps set, especially since ot talent builds can sometimes gimp your tps output for helping the MT's mitigation: Block Value, Stamina, Shield Block Rating, parry, dodge.

Notice both sets have parry at a higher priority than dodge. Look up what each do and you'll understand why.

My stats on my war for progression tanking are 16k health 17.5k armor, 21 dodge, 18 parry, and 28 block with only 400 block value. (unbuffed)
My block value set has 650 block value with 1k less health and armor about. 18 dodge 16 parry and 32 block rating. (unbuffed)

Kommentar von Thottbot

i am with Synergie of Quel'thalas currently 6/6 ssc and 3/4 tk and we have never seen this shield drop, approximately 25 kills....beyond a joke.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this from our second Gruul kill. I was MT and was using https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28316/aegis-des-sonnenvogels at the time, a bit of an upgrade IMO.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Our guildleader and MT had the only drop of this we had seen for months (now at the end of SSC and TK). Yesterday he left for the most progressed Alliance guild on the server and we decided on a Gruul run to boost morale.

This drop's and it seems almost spiritual, like the passing of the torch onto the guilds next MT :) I got it btw, I'm a tankadin and I think it upset our remaining best geared warrior tank :\

Kommentar von Thottbot

You, a tankadin, ninja'd it from your warrior? It's no wonder why your leader bounced! Would never happen in my guild. Just yesterday, I passed on shoulders and legs in Gruuls so that another tank could get the 4 piece set bonus and gear improvement. That's what a guild is all about. I'm not saying your guild SUCKS, BUT your leader left...

Kommentar von Thottbot

this dropped on your guild's second gruul kill. the MT and were the only warrior tanks in the guild at the time, and of course he outrolls me. we don't use DKP, its great ;P
they ML'ed it to him so fast i didn't even have time to offer to buy it off him
i REALLY hope it drops again... when im there :O

the nightbane shield didn't drop for EITHER of our groups for literally over 6 months, and it drops the one time i couldn't make it to kara. and then again for the other group and it gets sharded b/c the warrior tank had aldori

Kommentar von Thottbot

which is better? this of Bulwark of Amani Empire? isnt the Amani one better as it has more +block and more +sta....

i am yes i lost out on it :( ah well there will be more raids.

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